I'm just happy that the users of this fragrance are accross the ocean, so the chances that i found someone here wearing are minimal. I don't dare to even call this nonsense a fragrance, it's so nasty, nauseating, that i don't think it deserve to be called a fragrance. I'd vomit if i were forced to be at the same place with a person that wears this horrible thing. I had a mini of this one, and i had to keep it isolated of my wardrobe, because the smell was contaminating my other fragrances. Close to the bottle like the pic, the scent could cause me nauseas. The worst aroma that i have ever smelled on my life. Nasty, nasty, nasty, nasty, nasty!
Last edited by WildThingy; 12th October 2010 at 12:14 AM.
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I'll ignore your cheap aroma
And your little-bo-peep diploma
I'll just put you in a coma
With some dirty love
Some dirty love
That dirty love
That dirty love
THE POODLE BITES!
(Come on, Frenchie)
THE POODLE CHEWS IT!
THE POODLE BITES!
(Come on, Frenchie)
THE POODLE CHEWS IT!
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SM is proof that bad press is better than no press. How many of us would've even bothered to try it, let alone seek it out, if not for its infamy? KP did SM the biggest favor of all.
I wonder if Katie Puckrick had called her video, "Secretions Magnifique live sampling" it would have changed things. If we knew she wasn't even trying to review it, and was more or less a reaction video akin to those of the 2 girls one cup reaction videos.
With SM the punch line is in the fragrance as to speak with L Turin. 'Think Encens Et Bubblegum is the next unavoidable purchase. But it could be Arabie instead or Habit Rouge.
Last edited by WildThingy; 12th October 2010 at 08:28 AM. Reason: words fail me
The bottle has a penis with sprinkling semen - it's supposed to be jarring and unconventional, yes?
Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but I think it's fair to say that most people would find applying a semen smell to their body as less attractive than, well, just about anything else. If that makes me unrefined and incapable of accepting 'natural' smells, then so be it. With the hundreds of colognes out there, I'll pass on the 'blood, metal and semen' arrangements. To each their own. I appreciated the video review, and I appreciate yours.
Icelandic proverb: Every man likes the smell of his own farts.
I lived in Europe for 3 years, I never came across anyone that smelled or would want to smell like S.M. It is false to claim Europeans as liberated souls that are in more "in tune" with bodily odours and hence accepting of S.M. The people I met there would gag on the c^%p.
I can deal with niche releases that are so avant garde that they become borderline unwearable but S.M is plain revolting. It contradicts what a perfume is meant to be.
For the very life of me, I cannot make heads or tails out of these remarks. All I know is that SM sucks the big wazoo.
Thanks WildThingy for your thoughtful review. I acquired the Coffret of ELdO 16 scents, and this one was interesting. It actually reminded me of egg-whites, before being made into meringue, nothing sulfuric, just something I had not expected to smell. It was the main note, and I felt there was something really pleasantly floral being restrained underneath. This one is not for me, but then, neither was Je Suis Un Homme, which was the first aromatic fougére I've experienced.
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I am European, I love the concept of SM, but find it unquestionably abominable, unless of course a person is anosmic to certain rotten nitriles (according to some recent research, pretty much for any molecule, there's somebody who's anosmic).
But he bottle in the pic seems a store tester, so is wildthingy serious, or did he just take a pic in a store and pretend he's been using it? (and, for all we know, he could have simply decanted it for other people).
If not, more importantly, where can one buy the bottle with the whimsical label? I wanted to buy SM soon, but this side of the ocean I only see the 50ml bottle, which regrettably has only a generic label.
You know, strange you should say that about the French vis-à-vis body odour. (Which, by the way, always seems to be the typical ubiquitous insulting Yank viewpoint regarding the "great unwashed French"). I, on the other hand, knew someone with the absolute worst body odour I'd yet come across (& who refused point blank to use deodorant/perfume of any kind, to help soften the blow). And he, believe it or not, was actually a fellow Californian. ~ So, point being, I'll wager you find "rank body odour" pretty much in any corner of the globe ! ...
Besides, don't we have "body odour" to thank for the probable primary reason perfumery was even first developed in the first place ?!? ~ (And the subsequent glorious reasoning behind a pinch of castoreum/civit/indole/musk et al ....... ).
And regarding SM, I'd suggest you really shouldn't take all the "blood spit and spunk" marketing crap as gospel criteria for judging a scent which has yet to pass your nose. I mean, I can fully understand how a male (especially a full-on hetero' one ;o) might immediately shy-away/feel threatened(?)/revolted by a fragrance with purported spunk notes and a spouting penis on the bottle. But you could very well find, like I did (and everyone else I asked), that the actual fragrance as a whole doesn't actually smell anything like the purported bodily notes. Or rather that it's outcome is greater than the sum of it's parts. (Or you might find vague references, but only if you convince your mind to find them ;o) If on the other hand you ignore all the very clever marketing "mumbo-jumbo", you might even find you might even enjoy the fragrance after all !?? (As I've certainly been surprised to enjoy many a fragrance which actually contain notes which in isolation I dislike). ...
Just a suggestion. You might even surprise yourself ? And if not, and you still find it disagreeable. At least then you can do so from an actual informed basis. And not just on the basis of a racy bottle/pic alone. Which is rather unfair, not !?
And by the by, ... I may be alone here, ... but I certainly do NOT enjoy the smell of my own farts. )
@ WildThingy : ... I totally agree that SM has been very unfairly demonised. And it's certainly nowhere near as disagreeable as it's been made out to be. I think most of the revolt is really due to the power of suggestion, and distorted associations. ~ I guarantee that if people first smelled the fragrance knowing nothing about it or it's contained notes/ad-copy/image, their reactions would be very different and waaaay more agreeable. ...
I find it especially interesting for the fact the every time I go back to it, it manages to smell completely different from what I remembered it. And I smell some further new facet each time. It also manages to smell very different on all the people I've tried it on, (markedly so, more so than other fragrances, almost like a completely different fragrance altogether. ~No mean feat !)
And I totally agree that if I had to associate it to any other fragrance, (something I've never been able to do before due to it's singular character). I must say, I think Beyond Paradise is actually pretty much spot-on ! ~ (Although I actually dislike Beyond Paradise immensely. Probably as much as most people dislike SM (LOL) ~ I think SM a far superior fragrance to BP in every possible way !
There is however one very minor thing you mentioned that I just do NOT agree with at all. I find absolutely NO resemblance whatsoever, not even in the slightest, between SM and JOOP ! (WTF ??? I don't know where you coming from there ???) ~ To me, if anything, they are more like polar opposites really ! ~ (Sorry ! )
(Oh, unless you meant : a scent that greatly divided opinion ??)
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^^^ I just skimmed... but, really, you don't like the smell of your own farts?! come on! it's ok to admit it.. really... ;-)
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And though I admire it, find it interesting, and therefore defend it. Unfortunately still not quite enough to find it FBW. (A mediumish decant has been more than enough, thankyou )
To clearify things, I would not tell anybody is lacking something if not likeing SM. Most recently I tried it again, and there it was, that metallic smell and nothing else. It lasted one or two hours and was overwhelmingly strong! But then in a sudden, may be by fatigue it was blown away.
What SM reminded me after that was what it says. But, stay tuned, it was great, had the same power as the topnote(s): chestnut, slightly roasted, the variant You can buy in Western Europe on Weihnachtsmarkt (Christmas Fair). And, the reference was the female who occasionally - You know, it happens even to a prim scholar as me sometimes that he falls in love, I had to sniff all over her ... . There is definitely a common demominator of these three smells ... . And know what, I like particularly that smell. It reminds me of good times I had and will hopefully have on and on. It is not the smell of decomposing stuff, but - people are rather bigot sometimes.
Perfume is since Guerlain a matter of erotic engagement - Jicky, Mitsouko, Shalimar, all about love stories. By that time 1900+ a rather new idea it was to connect perfume mentaly to erotics by a "story", the so called scoop. ELdO and esp. with SM mimicks that as a hyperbole. Well done IMHO.
As far as people like Katie, who is "of otherwise indenyable interlectual credit" go silly about words and the idea that human semen has some kind of a smell, o/k. She describes herself as a former groupy. What then was that?! Do people think that mankind proliferates by offshoots?
Btw: SM is NOT suposed to smell of spunk, but JICKY stinks of cat's number two!
Last edited by WildThingy; 4th March 2011 at 06:05 PM.
Tried this about a half an hour ago. Don't believe the hype because it's not that scary. I was prepared after reading many reviews and seeing Katie's, to smell something absolutely horrible, instead I got salty ocean water with soft florals and musk and like Fred360 said: egg whites. Yep folks, that's as scary as it gets. Now excuse me while I go layer it with a bit of MKK to really take myself over the top.
Neither the "good" nor "bad" reviews of SM led me to think that I'd like it. I am surprised that so many people feel the need to sample certain frags when there is no reason to believe that they would like the frag. Is this the olfactory equivalent of "rubber necking" at the scene of a car accident?
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Had never seen any of the reviews prior to trying this a while back. I just didn't care that much for it when I tried it.
I tested this twice and have a decant. I will own it one day out of principle because I love ELdO. I just think that some noses are immune to whatever "disgusting" note is in there. I almost threw up twice and I have a VERY strong stomach. SM is the only frag I've reviewed on here. It smells (more than anything IMO) to the smell of a wound that has stopped bleeding and is trying to heal. I do think it is artistic though...like modern art.
In defense of Katie, I don't think she was "performing" per se, she was testing it live (as someone said earlier) and was just displaying her visceral reaction. I thought it was particularly funny, because everything she said about it, I could totally see where she was coming from.
We all know that frags are elusive.....we all have to just like what we like and leave the rest, I think.
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And besides, there is also such a thing as "curiosity", (which, it seems by your comment, you don't seem to possess much of). ) ... After all the hype there is no way I wouldn't want to experience it for myself (mostly to find out if it was warranted ??). And personally I found that it didn't. It's been totally blown out of proportion IMO. I don't find SM offensive in the least !
Last edited by Sybarite; 1st December 2011 at 12:28 AM.
On the other hand, if someone really is that anxious about his smell of her, SM won't do the trick. So SM won't do it for the most of us. I wonder how someone could possibly pile up a severe amount of whatever is considered to be "perfume", but miss any experimental stuff which may bear a challenge. To me that looks like a marionette hanging in the threads of commerce. The new "pure malt", U kno ... and not to forget about CREED, Amen