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    Default Re: Instead of Chanel N19

    I love green florals, so I am also enjoying this thread (and the suggestions for new things to try!). I also thought, though, that No. 19 was the fragrance that opened my eyes (nose? mind?) to fragrances that are floral with a light hit of leather...so, I really liked Hillaire's thoughts and suggestions. Fabulous!

    For light florals (very different blossoms) with leather, I adore Kelly Caleche. For more leather, Bandit is fabulous. I think I would also place Jolie Madame in this category. These fragrances do not really have No. 19's green-ness (?), but they do have the really lovely complement of floral and leather.

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    There is no replacement for Chanel no. 19. It is so unique! I am a huge no. 19 fan.
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    Default Re: Instead of Chanel N19

    Love iris, love green, did NOT love the current No. 19 -- I think I need to print this thread, thank you all so much!

    The new Crabtree & Evelyn Iris is a very rooty earthy iris with a lot of green; it's not bitter the way I think No. 19 is supposed to be, though.
    This scent is great, but ... MORE KITTENS!

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    Brilliant thread.
    I am still trying to get my hands on vintage no19
    But I do have some vintage quelques fleurs... And if Hillaire says they are dead ringers....

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    Vivian Westwood Boudoir... a very surprising wild card suggestion because I had only recently looked up the ingredients of Chanel 19 and Boudoir. They share many more than you might expect of the notes listed here on BN especially within the top and heart notes. This was a major astonishment to me because they smell so poles apart from each other. I was looking them up to make a private blend for my sister who has never found anything she likes except no 19 and now likes both of these. We were quite surprised and pleased to find out how many notes they shared. It would certainly be interesting to see if your friend finds she likes it too.
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    I would suggest Ormonde Woman. It's another green masterpiece. Different from no. 19 but more unique IMO, has the potential of becoming a signature scent.

    Other green beauties: AG Eau de Camille, AA Herba Fresca (this is not qualified for the "signature scent" title though). Creamier, warmer green scents: Ineke Balmy Days and Sundays, TDC Un Parfum de Charmes et Feuilles, CdG Calamus.

    Let us know her opinion on our suggestions - I am curious.

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    Default Re: Instead of Chanel N19

    Jean-Louis Scherrer (the first). A spicy green chypre, available from the online discounters. Aromatics Elixir, which has been "softened" in recent years but is still pretty good.
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    Default Re: Instead of Chanel N19

    [QUOTE=carolina girl;1959684]Has she tried Jacomo's Silences?

    that is the first scent that came up to my mind
    Jacomo Silences

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    I gave her the list ..she said thank you so much ..so i transmit to everyone
    She loves Scherrer ..but in France , for the moment , it"s discontinued ..no way to find it at a normal price
    She smelt Heure Exquise and she loves it very much ,saying it could be this one
    To my nose , i don"t relally see connections between N19 and Ivoire ...maybe it's a question of skin
    Sikkim (as well as the others) shoud be tried ...

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    oh my, I think I had better try Heure Exquise
    "Like a lobster with a pearl in its claw, the beet held the jasmine firmly without crushing or obscuring it. Beet lifted jasmine, the way a bullnecked partner lifts a ballerina, and the pair came on stage on citron's fluty cue. As if jasmine were a collection of beautiful paintings, beet hung it in the galleries of the nose, insured it against fire or theft, threw a party to celebrate it. Citron mailed the invitations." Jitterbug Perfume by Tom Robbins p. 189

    What I am loving right now: Shalimar vintage extrait, Chanel Bois des Iles, Chanel no. 22, Le Labo Iris 39, Guerlain Iris Ganache

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    Default Re: Instead of Chanel N19

    Heure Exquise is your best bet. Also, So Pretty by Cartier and Ivoire by Balmain, would be worth checking out. I love all 3 of these these fragrances.

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    I've worn Chanel 19 for about 30 years now ... well ... I managed to cope with the first reformulation but the latest is just rank on my skin.

    I fully accept that our skin chemistry changes over time, but even the perfume has nothing to compare with the original.

    Vintage buys on e-bay disappoint too ... It just doesn't keep that well.

    I tried Annick Goutal's Heure Exquise and although it starts off well, it ends up way off. Far too soapy. Not bitchy enough.

    That was the last of my attempts - I've been through every single one of the suggestions on this and many other threads on other forums!

    I think the answer is that there simply isn't a replacement. Like me, sadly, your friend needs to move on ...

    Am drawn to the vetivert/bergamots a bit more now ... currently swathed in Czech and Speak #88 but also rather enjoying Cotswold Perfume Co's Neroli (formulated by the same nose as C&S) - cheap as chips and deliciously fresh while still retaining a certain little dirty something ..

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    If she loves Chanel 's N19, for sure she will love also Annick Goutal's Heure Exquise
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    I'm glad this thread popped up again!It's probably beside the point now,but I was so intrigued with Hillaire's side-by-side comparison of Ivoire with#19 that I had to do the same.They are in fact just about dead ringers for each other.I don't think it's a matter of skin chemistry,either-they smell incredibly close on paper,too.I have to wonder if the woman at the opera who inspired Pierre Balmain's idea for Ivoire was indeed wearing #19!?!
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    Default Re: Instead of Chanel N19

    This may be a strange suggestion, but maybe she should try Portrait of a Lady. It's not green. It's not all sorts of things. It's certainly not Chanel 19. But something in the treatment of the rose reminds me of the way perfumers were working in that time period.
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    Default Re: Instead of Chanel N19

    I agree with Kiliwia - Cartier's So Pretty (one of my top-10 favorites!) is the closest thing I've found to the original No19 parfum (and perhaps the vintage edc.) It's very rosy and green with a touch of soft leather, the iris is present but not dominant, and it's not very cold. The vintage mid-70s parfum is the warmest, loveliest version of 19 that I know, and So Pretty comes very close to it (...while still displaying its own unique flourish, a tart berry signature that's both succulent and elegant. So crisp and chic!)
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    Default Re: Instead of Chanel N19

    Quote Originally Posted by PerfumedLady View Post
    I'm glad this thread popped up again!It's probably beside the point now,but I was so intrigued with Hillaire's side-by-side comparison of Ivoire with#19 that I had to do the same.They are in fact just about dead ringers for each other.I don't think it's a matter of skin chemistry,either-they smell incredibly close on paper,too.I have to wonder if the woman at the opera who inspired Pierre Balmain's idea for Ivoire was indeed wearing #19!?!
    Thanks for the corroboration! It really was an odd discovery!

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    Yes,it is an odd discovery,Hillaire!A pretty fantastic one,too,considering my 100mL Ivoire cost me all of $26.99!I've always been an Ivoire girl and when I originally seconded your suggestion,I was thinking they were in the same vein if not quite similar.After doing the side by side,I realized what "smell-alikes" they really are!I'm glad I stole your idea-I had fun with this!
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    My all-time faves in this category are Bandit and Vent Vert. But vintage Vent Vert, not the horrid reformulation

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    also mourning any changes in no. 19, but I am interested to realize that I am drawn to some of the alternatives noted here, like Bandit and Ormonde Woman. I just love each of them. Still deciding what to replace my dwindling no 19 edt with...the edp or shall I just go wild and in another direction so as not to constantly compare "the way things used to be?"
    "Like a lobster with a pearl in its claw, the beet held the jasmine firmly without crushing or obscuring it. Beet lifted jasmine, the way a bullnecked partner lifts a ballerina, and the pair came on stage on citron's fluty cue. As if jasmine were a collection of beautiful paintings, beet hung it in the galleries of the nose, insured it against fire or theft, threw a party to celebrate it. Citron mailed the invitations." Jitterbug Perfume by Tom Robbins p. 189

    What I am loving right now: Shalimar vintage extrait, Chanel Bois des Iles, Chanel no. 22, Le Labo Iris 39, Guerlain Iris Ganache

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    Another plug for Futur. Not as an exact replacement for my vintage 19, but because Futur smells like I always wished 19 smelled -- just a touch more cruel. It's that snap-your-head-back green opening. Funny: another recommendation from above, EL Private Collection, I have always referred to as "Cruelty-free Chanel 19".

    Bandit, the other Piguet reissue mentioned above, does not have the pencil-shavings aldehyde drydown that equals Chanel for me, whereas Future is all that. Even so, I wouldn't list Bandit here, it has such a different attitude. Where No. 19 would delegate, Bandit knows there are some things you just have to do yourself. With your hands.
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    Kelly Caleche is reeeaally nice! try getting her a sample I also like Robert Piguet's Bandit. I haven't tried Futur but I'd love to now that I see opinions about it here... hmmm, and Bandit was a blind buy! I looooved it

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    I invested in Silences in the hope that it would do the trick ... but oh my goodness me how disappointing. Soapy, sure it's green, but with a touch of cowpat and none of the aldehyde oomph frankly ... even layered it on Guerlain vetiver in crazy hope ... it just doesn't do it for me ... yuck! I just had a spritz in case my skin/nose was more atuned ... bleurgh! am going to try Ivoire now!

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    Default Re: Instead of Chanel N19

    Bottega Veneta EDP is an excellent green leathery chypre. Stunning, if not as sharp as Chanel No. 19. It always depends, too, if she wants to really find a similar replacement or just something entirely different.

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    O de Lancome gets the vibe I think

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    I am a vintage green girl all the way. I must say I never really went for No 19 though...until I tried a really nice vintage one the other day and now I finally get it after years of not.

    I recommend Ivoire and have oodles of back ups for that.
    Boucheron by Boucheron
    Sherrer (not the 2, although it is ok, just a bit too sweet)
    Yendi
    Older Ma Griffe in the green stripes and only the perfume version
    Cabochard (on the leather side)
    Audace by Faberge was nice
    Something I wasn't sure of at first but keep wearing happily recently is the new Diorling. That is very pleasant. It has the aspirinic vibe of Rive Gauche IMO and has the dryness one seeks from a green.
    Guerlain Derby is pleasant but there is a tonka vibe in the guerlain accord
    Portrait of a lady was nice but I found that a bit thin.
    La Perla Parfum Prive is ok
    Armani for women if you can find it
    I really like Piper Nigrum By Lorenzo Villoresi and actually his frags need a sniff.
    The other I was thinking of was one from the Histoire de Parfums, but the names just gone. I will be back.
    Currently wearing: Civet by Houbigant

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    Quote Originally Posted by mumsy View Post
    Portrait of a lady was nice but I found that a bit thin...
    Hi mumsy,
    Are you sure you're thinking of PoaL ? It's a fairly heady rose / (frank)incense / patchouli monster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gandhajala View Post
    Hi mumsy,
    Are you sure you're thinking of PoaL ? It's a fairly heady rose / (frank)incense / patchouli monster.
    I'm going to have to go and try it on again, now you've asked that. I may be wrong as I try on so many.

    Updated...
    Yes.. I know others like this, but it goes so sad on me... thin and spindly. It smells like strawberries and blackcurrant stems, a plastic rose and a dose of patchouli mud with a pinch of spice. I shall keep it on and see what happens. I didn't remember loving it, but actually I withdraw it off my recommended list completely now. Only green in a bramble bush sort of way.

    This lady portrait I see. She is young and slightly muddy from scrabbling under the brambles for some old rose petals to make her pot pourri with, and she's left it in the sun a little too long and the petals have gone brown at the edges. There is a little limp rose smell left with the dank water. lol. Sort of charming, but not old enough for me.
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    AG Heure Exquise
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    My wife loves No 19 edt so which one between Yendi vs Calandre do you suggest as alternative?

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