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    Default A useful aromachemical reference book I stumbled across

    Sorry for dominating the postings this morning, but this may be useful

    http://www.perfumerbook.com/Classify...0Chemicals.pdf

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    Thank you!

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    Very helpful to have this in one document. Thanks.

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    thanks Mumsy

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    Thank you for sharing, looks good!
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    One should be very careful about such books, within seconds of reading I found a mistake. Agrumen Aldehyde is described as smelling "Floral, aldehydic, hyacinth"; sorry it doesn't. Agrumen Aldehyde is green citrus herbal. That aside, such books will only ever be subjective; nothing replaces smelling the actual materials and making up your own mind as to how they smell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Ruskin View Post
    One should be very careful about such books, within seconds of reading I found a mistake. Agrumen Aldehyde is described as smelling "Floral, aldehydic, hyacinth"; sorry it doesn't. Agrumen Aldehyde is green citrus herbal. That aside, such books will only ever be subjective; nothing replaces smelling the actual materials and making up your own mind as to how they smell.
    i've been on a site with books that look exactly like this on (and probably is the same site) and have found big mistakes as well, sometimes up to a level that made me think, this guy is just bullshitting.

    i agree that one must always rely on one's own observations; thorough studying your materials is absolutely essential. evaluate it on a scent strip an make notes about everything.

    however a list or book with descriptions can be valuable in finding new materials. for that, i rely mostly on arctander. i have found his descriptions are most accurate, often they match 100% with the things i had scribbled down.

    the manufacturers too, often mention how their materials smell, you can find them all together on bill's excellent site (the good scent company) and although they are often right, i have found they have the tendency to leave certain (unwanted) aspects out.

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    If you can afford it ( and can find it) Arctander is a very good buy indeed, and can be relied upon. Manufacturers want to sell their materials so will try to sex them up but are generally good. What is good about all this is that it will make you want to smell something you haven't before, and try to use it.

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    Default Re: A useful aromachemical reference book I stumbled across

    Quote Originally Posted by David Ruskin View Post
    One should be very careful about such books, within seconds of reading I found a mistake. Agrumen Aldehyde is described as smelling "Floral, aldehydic, hyacinth"; sorry it doesn't. Agrumen Aldehyde is green citrus herbal. That aside, such books will only ever be subjective; nothing replaces smelling the actual materials and making up your own mind as to how they smell.
    Hi David,
    Hmmm...A lot of things come to mind when I smell Agrumen. I think lemons then a bit later I think Jasmine, part of English Leather. I GUESS I could understand why the person said Hyacinth, a little.

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    I agree Gido. Of course, every AC out there smells like heaven if you go by what's written about them. I do get a kick out of the low Aldehydes descriptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gido View Post
    i've been on a site with books that look exactly like this on (and probably is the same site) and have found big mistakes as well, sometimes up to a level that made me think, this guy is just bullshitting.

    i agree that one must always rely on one's own observations; thorough studying your materials is absolutely essential. evaluate it on a scent strip an make notes about everything.

    however a list or book with descriptions can be valuable in finding new materials. for that, i rely mostly on arctander. i have found his descriptions are most accurate, often they match 100% with the things i had scribbled down.

    the manufacturers too, often mention how their materials smell, you can find them all together on bill's excellent site (the good scent company) and although they are often right, i have found they have the tendency to leave certain (unwanted) aspects out.
    Just to endorse this method of working. Arctander - his work on synthetics that is - is expensive but obtainable (in electronic form at least, through Allured) but hard to come by in paper form and Iím very lucky to have a copy: the only downside is that having been written in the 1960s it doesnít cover the more modern chemicals. For those we have little option but to rely, until we have smelt something ourselves, on the manufacturers descriptions. Always remembering that they are in the business of selling them.

    I would be much more impressed with Perfumer & Flavorist Magazine if they routinely published independent views and reviews of new perfumery materials in the same way that they do for flavour materials, instead of merely re-publishing manufacturer descriptions.
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