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    Default Bergamot - is it a fruit or a flower or both??

    I have just realised that most of the perfumes I really love contain BERGAMOT.
    It is a very uplifting note and always raises my mood. I have looked it up
    on various sites and some say it is a plant with red flowers and some that it is a small orange -like fruit. Which is the one they use in perfumes? Does anybody know? Are there other bergamot fans out there?

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    Default Re: Bergamot - is it a fruit or a flower or both??

    Quote Originally Posted by kewart
    I have just realised that most of the perfumes I really love contain BERGAMOT.
    It is a very uplifting note and always raises my mood. I have looked it up
    on various sites and some say it is a plant with red flowers and some that it is a small orange -like fruit. Which is the one they use in perfumes? Does anybody know? Are there other bergamot fans out there?
    OMG...i have been thinking about this for a few days now...that i am going to list this question here....since most of the perfumes that i happen to love has bergamot particularly in the top notes....and i have been wondering what is this 'bergamot'...atleast now i know that it is either a flower or a fruit or both...

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    Default Re: Bergamot - is it a fruit or a flower or both??

    There is two bergamots. One is a flowering herb, not used in perfumery. The other is a citrus fruit, which is the one used in perfumery.

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    Default Re: Bergamot - is it a fruit or a flower or both??

    Read this in Wikipedia:
    "A small pear shaped orange with a sour fruit...It`s aromatic peel is used to produce an essential oil that is used in perfumes... (and also Earl Grey tea....)...It was also used in the original Eau de Cologne from Germany in the 17th century..."

    I love it too!

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    Default Re: Bergamot - is it a fruit or a flower or both??

    Thank you so much Administrator and Musse. Now I know!!
    Glad some of you love the note too.
    It is in :-
    Roma
    Shalimar
    Cristobal
    Santa Maria Novella Eau de Cologne
    Diorella

    I love all of these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by musse
    Read this in Wikipedia:
    "A small pear shaped orange with a sour fruit...It`s aromatic peel is used to produce an essential oil that is used in perfumes... (and also Earl Grey tea....)...It was also used in the original Eau de Cologne from Germany in the 17th century..."

    I love it too!
    I couldn't have said more appropriate and precise words Musse!
    I like to add that the top quality Bergamot used in perfumery comes from south Italy (let me show off a bit of patriotic pride :bounce: ) and particularly from Calabria and Sicily!

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    Default Re: Bergamot - is it a fruit or a flower or both??

    Magnifiscent, I love your quote from Baudelaire.
    Do you know the Santa Maria Novella bergamot
    Eau de Cologne? It is truly magnificent (pun intended!)

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    Default Re: Bergamot - is it a fruit or a flower or both??

    Everybody is giving you the correct info about which bergamot is which.

    For those who care, here's the low-down on the other bergamot (I'm an American plant enthusiast). The Monarda family includes what's known as Wild Bergamot (M. fistulosa), White Bergamot (M. clinopodia), and the variety most often sold is Monarda didyma, also known as Scarlet Beebalm.

    I harvested some M. fistulosa yesterday. This wonderful musky, aromatic plant is supposed to smell like the bergamot orange, but I wouldn't have made that leap of association. At any rate, now you know. (Great question!)
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    Default Re: Bergamot - is it a fruit or a flower or both??

    I love bergamot too. I sometimes think scents with strong bergamot note have a teanote even though they don't. This is only because for me tea = Earl Grey tea, where bergamot, as musse wrote, is a flavourer.

    The bergamot topnote is also a cornerstone in the structure of the classic chypre perfumes, creating depth and contrast against the mossy base / labdanum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnifiscent
    I like to add that the top quality Bergamot used in perfumery comes from south Italy (let me show off a bit of patriotic pride :bounce: ) and particularly from Calabria and Sicily!
    I second that! :-)

    In his book "Les Routes de Mes Parfums", Jean-Paul Guerlain describes his frequent visits to Messina and Reggio Calabria in search for the best bergamot. Half of my family is from that area, so I felt sort of proud when I read that :-) And apparently Guerlain wasn't the only company who obtained their bergamot there. The great earthquake that destroyed Messina in 1908 caused a worldwide shortage of bergamot, which lasted for about three years.

    Oh and in addition to Musse's comments: bergamot is strictly cultivated for perfumery. From what my father told me, its sour taste is absolutely repulsive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcello
    Oh and in addition to Musse's comments: bergamot is strictly cultivated for perfumery. From what my father told me, its sour taste is absolutely repulsive.
    Totally agreed!!!
    Actually bergamot is used only for aromatic use, I mean, not only for scents but also for flavouring teas, jams, etc... but the only used part is the peel as, like your daddy remembers well, the taste is repulsive. I myself had the chance to try to eat a slice of bergamot and... puah... puah... it was awful.

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    Bergamot is so uplifting, I love it too! Some fragrances I like in which I can recognise this scent are: Chanel No.19; Emporio Armani She; Versace Jeans Couture (Mens) and Dunhill Desire Blue (Mens). The Body Shop's Bergamot bath and body range is a particular favourite of mine also.

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    Bergamot fan checking in!
    I actually keep one little bottle of bergamot essential oil as a "lift me up" scent. I smell it but i do not apply on skin as it can be a bit dangerous under the sun.

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    Default Re: Bergamot - is it a fruit or a flower or both??

    bump for an excellent thread.

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    Default Re: Bergamot - is it a fruit or a flower or both??

    We also eat bergamot preserve.

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    Default Re: Bergamot - is it a fruit or a flower or both??

    Good gracious I had forgotten I started this thread so long ago.
    Interestingly enough there are over 1,400 fragrances listed in the
    Basenotes Directory that contain Bergamot as a note. Could it be the
    most used ingredient in perfumery ever?
    What is the most bergamotty fragrance anyone owns?
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    Default Re: Bergamot - is it a fruit or a flower or both??

    Saripatates, coincidentally I made Çılbır tonight. You people are so lucky to have bergamot growing. The preserve must be delicious.

    Kewart, I'm looking for a predominantly bergamot perfume. I like Le Labo's Bergamot 27 but not worth the price and Aqcua di Parma's Bergamot is too lemony. I will try The Different Company's bergamot as recommended.

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    Bergamot is almost certainly the most used ingredient. It is a citrus top note with qualities of freshness, fruitiness, a little resinous, sweet, bitter. The reason it is so widely used is that it doesn't clash with anything - it seems to blend well with just about all other top notes and heart notes. Other common top notes like lemon blend less well with certain things - (it is tricky to make lemon sit well with Jasmine for example).
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    Default Re: Bergamot - is it a fruit or a flower or both??

    Bergamot releases a very fragrant smell. A very perfume like scent.
    To experience this better, try (obviously high end) Bergamot icecream (like from Ladurée). A certain post-swallow fragrance is released.
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    Default Re: Bergamot - is it a fruit or a flower or both??

    Bergamot ice cream - now that does sound good!
    A woman without perfume is like a flower without a scent.

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    Default Re: Bergamot - is it a fruit or a flower or both??

    kewart, most delicious! I want to perfume myself with bergamot and eat bergamot icecream as it is one of my favorite scents.

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