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    Default Re: Now I understand what they mean by Creed Aventus batch variations

    It might be a good idea to compile a list of all Creed fragrances, their batch numbers and the variations. I received my 4oz SMW this morning and although I love it, would have liked it to be a bit stronger on the blackcurrant. Having said that, I was lucky with Aventus (got the 'A' batch) and my VIW is divine.

    I think a dedicated thread could really help everyone who's thinking of buying Creed fragrances.

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    I almost wonder if the variation is slightly intentional. Think about it - if the batches were such that no two (or only a few batches) were alike, then you could provide your customers with an nearly unique & signature fragrance while still offering all of them a similar experience. It doesn't sound like the worst idea, but it makes the fragrances unpredictable for the consumer. What do you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OlfactoryExperience View Post
    I almost wonder if the variation is slightly intentional. Think about it - if the batches were such that no two (or only a few batches) were alike, then you could provide your customers with an nearly unique & signature fragrance while still offering all of them a similar experience. It doesn't sound like the worst idea, but it makes the fragrances unpredictable for the consumer. What do you think?
    I believe that what you have stated is what they want us to think, that the product is "one-of-a-kind" and "every bottle is different in its own unique way" ...but honestly I think it's just inconsistencies that they try to sell as uniqueness. Quality control has always been an issue for Creed and I gotta say, I'm a little scared since I'm purchasing Aventus soon and I feel as if I'm playing the lottery after reading so many horror stories!

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    Maybe they do it so they can sustain the image of finely handcrafted batches made from only the finest natural ingredients...lol Sad thing is, handmade goods made from recipes have more consistency!

    I think it stinks, because while dealing with some variation is fine- especially if they are using natural materials- the wild variations I've heard about are just absurd. With something like perfume, you're usually after the whole package, otherwise what is there to distinguish one scent from another? With a finite number of ingredients, after a certain point, the only variation is the quantity in each recipe.

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    If I am dishing out megabucks to buy a particular scent then I would want THAT scent in my bottle! If there is a color variation it is understandable but there should NOT be a variation of scent as this is what we are paying for.

    This is insanity.

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    If variation is going to be the norm for CREED, so should returns made by customers who don't like a specific batch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingpin View Post
    It is unacceptable for there to be so much batch variation from such a reputable house.
    If they retail for $50 per bottle, I wouldn't mind the inconsistencies.
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    I am not willing to do intensive research on batch variations for any of their scents which besides GIT last like 4 hrs on my skin. I think that it is completely absurd that a reputable house such as theirs marks the inconsistencies in their batches as uniqueness. Come on people let's get real! I know there are a lot of great scents that you can get your nose on without having to cross your fingers about which batch you received.

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    I am no expert by far, but what I would like to find out is how the fragrance is held in suspension. For those that find Creed batch variations intolerable, I feel you pain. Of all the Creeds that I own and have owned, what I get is not batch variation, but rather application variations. The top and middle notes seem to vary different ways from the same bottle on different days, but overall they're the same scents that I know and love and always smell good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerel9 View Post
    The first time I tried Aventus, it was this very pineapply and musky (a relatively strong and smoky musk) thing that - although it smelled good - wasn't something I saw myself wearing.

    But this past week I took my time with a different batch. In this batch the strongest note is red apple (a very accurate apple too) which is an underrated note now that I have smelled it. There is a little pineapple in there too but it's in the background, and the musk/smoke is barely there. This is definitely something that I could use as a signature scent. Amazing stuff.

    The problem is I don't know what I'll get if I buy a bottle.
    Currant, apple, juniper, synthetic moss, ambergris, and white musk are my favorite aventus notes....I need to know the batch number on that bottle you tried!!
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    Cerel9 I have tried aventus from five different places in retail and am yet to experience any variations. If you can send samples of your batches that wpuld be great. I am willing to pay or trade samples.
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    If you bought your Aventus from an authorized Creed outlet, and you are experiencing a quality control issue, bring it back to where you bought it and ask for a refund/replacement. Since Creed only distributes their product through reputable outlets, it shouldn't be a problem.
    The reason I can say this is, I once had bought a Creed candle from a grey market discounter, and it did not burn properly. I called Creed and they said they would gladly replace it if it were only purchased from an "authorized dealer."

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    Quote Originally Posted by zztopp View Post
    Cerel9 I have tried aventus from five different places in retail and am yet to experience any variations. If you can send samples of your batches that wpuld be great. I am willing to pay or trade samples.
    IMO and experience, there were only a few batches made last year that didn't quite live up to the standard. They have been well documented in another thread. There were also a few batches from last year that I thought were really good (e.g.,C42B10J01--a few flacons still available at Bloomingdale's Garden City NY, ask for Theresa). To hedge, I bought a good supply. The batches from 2011 (e.g, C42B11N01) are very excellent, IMO. Except for the weak flacons and bottles still in the pipeline, it looks like Creed has solved the problem. Of course, here at BN the batching issue (or any Creed matter like a packaging change) is greatly dramatized...and it doesn't take much to stimulate the avowed Creed haters and fragrance bottomfeeders!

    Aventus wears very well on me. It has been a delightful surprise how wearable/ flexible it is. I am a bit anosmic to it as after several hours I think it is gone, but others sometimes remind me that they like it or I'll catch whiffs of it. I know I would have no problem returning a sub-par batch of anything (did that with Aventus).

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    Quote Originally Posted by PEARL View Post
    I am no expert by far, but what I would like to find out is how the fragrance is held in suspension. For those that find Creed batch variations intolerable, I feel you pain. Of all the Creeds that I own and have owned, what I get is not batch variation, but rather application variations. The top and middle notes seem to vary different ways from the same bottle on different days, but overall they're the same scents that I know and love and always smell good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazznpool View Post
    IMO and experience, there were only a few batches made last year that didn't quite live up to the standard. They have been well documented in another thread. There were also a few batches from last year that I thought were really good (e.g.,C42B10J01--a few flacons still available at Bloomingdale's Garden City NY, ask for Theresa). To hedge, I bought a good supply. The batches from 2011 (e.g, C42B11N01) are very excellent, IMO. Except for the weak flacons and bottles still in the pipeline, it looks like Creed has solved the problem. Of course, here at BN the batching issue (or any Creed matter like a packaging change) is greatly dramatized...and it doesn't take much to stimulate the avowed Creed haters and fragrance bottomfeeders!

    Aventus wears very well on me. It has been a delightful surprise how wearable/ flexible it is. I am a bit anosmic to it as after several hours I think it is gone, but others sometimes remind me that they like it or I'll catch whiffs of it. I know I would have no problem returning a sub-par batch of anything (did that with Aventus).

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    Martin thanks for the note. I am really curious to experience this for myself and experience the claims that some batches are so different so as to be two different fragrances. If you, Cerel9, or any other member who has samples of these different batches, I am interested. I also stated this in the original Aventus variation thread but found no takers. Its an open offer so anyone who has these wildly varying batches please let me know as I would like to smell them for myself and be part of this madness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahep2007 View Post
    It might be a good idea to compile a list of all Creed fragrances, their batch numbers and the variations. I received my 4oz SMW this morning and although I love it, would have liked it to be a bit stronger on the blackcurrant. Having said that, I was lucky with Aventus (got the 'A' batch) and my VIW is divine.

    I think a dedicated thread could really help everyone who's thinking of buying Creed fragrances.
    I second that. I would love to get a bottle of MI that has a stronger watermelon opening note rather than a bottle that lacks it, and this is the of the reason i refuse to purchase MI. The opening is what makes the bottle stand out!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zztopp View Post
    Martin thanks for the note. I am really curious to experience this for myself and experience the claims that some batches are so different so as to be two different fragrances. If you, Cerel9, or any other member who has samples of these different batches, I am interested. I also stated this in the original Aventus variation thread but found no takers. Its an open offer so anyone who has these wildly varying batches please let me know as I would like to smell them for myself and be part of this madness.
    I only have what I feel is a very satisfying Aventus batch, referenced above. I can recommend it without reservation. I did write previously about a strange Aventus experience I had when visiting with Roberto F several months ago. I inquired about the batch variation and named the weak batch lot#. We pick up the Aventus tester sitting on his display table, and is a what I thought was problematic lot! After sampling it with Roberto I was shocked and bit embarassed that it was perfectly fine!! This was a batch that I previously thought was missing the fruity-pineapple top. It made me wonder if there was some kind of separation going on in the vat from which the bottles were poured. When I saw the lot number prior to sampling I'm thinking, okay now someone connected with Creed USA will understand what is happening...but that is not what ocurred.

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    With the newest Aventus bottles, I noticed the longevity has been toned down. I used to get 8-10 hours on my skin from the earlier bottles. Now i get 4-6 hours on my skin from the newer bottles. The same idea applies to projection. Does anyone have this issue?

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    Default Re: Now I understand what they mean by Creed Aventus batch variations

    The batch I discuss in the OP (the good one) is from lot no. C42B10K04.

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    I just received A42B10K03 from Matthew at Parfums Raffy. Very happy with it, theres a slight leathery smell that is almost peppery to my nose. I love it though, very masculine scent.

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    Sorry to perpetuate this thread, but I wore some of my "good" Aventus on the back of my hand today. Really an amazing scent. I don't get any disgusting smoke/ash...If anything, there may be a very slight leather in the opening, although it's very faint. Lots of citrus and pineapple throughout the entire fragrance. I need to find P. Diddy somewhere, and convince him to rip this off.

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    My favorite one has to be A4210E01, anyone selling?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil4Speed View Post
    My favorite one has to be A4210E01, anyone selling?
    Mine too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Guyer View Post
    Wow, buying a bottle of Aventus seems to require a lot of work. Good luck to everyone.
    I really want to buy Aventus but I have to agree with Kevin here. Taking a shot in the dark on a $200 fragrance is not to my liking.

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    I just got a bottle (120 ml) of Aventus with batch no. A42B11S01. Opening is very fruity and it is not smoky. I sprayed this at the back of my hand at 6.30 in the morning and it is now past 3 in the afternoon and I can still smell it. I bought the bottle at the Paris Gallery in Dubai, UAE and I’m happy with it.

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    sancherr - My bottle of Aventus wasn't that smokey at first. After a few months the smokey note became stronger. Perhaps it was just my nose at the time.

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    Just out of curiosity, did anyone here actually confront any of the Creed reps (or the actual company) over this? It just seems like such an obvious problem, I would be curious what the company has to say (since the Reps are likely just fed information, and don't have insight into the production of these fragrances).

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    How many different batch numbers are there currently for Aventus?

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    Just caught a nice whiff of myself 19 hours after application. Got close to 10 compliments last night. The room was full of 1Million and AdG. It was almost too easy. Whatever is in that stuff, people absolutely love it on me.

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