Thread: Aventus batch numbers
I got another batch of C42B11N01 today for the latest split and its excellent as per the previous three. Unfortunately I asked for the free samples to be Aventus too and they sent me six vials of A42B10K04 and the difference is staggering.
The samples have very poor longevity, Has next to no potency/projection and doesn't smell pleasant. If you think people may have been exaggerating in the past when saying its all ashy and has no top notes then I can assure you they weren't. Its absolutely dreadful and has none of the characteristic of a good bottle. Its got more in common with a toilet bleach and the majority of the notes just aren't there.
If peoples first encounter with Aventus is one of these late 2010 batches then I'm not surprised they think its not worth purchasing. It should never have been bottled and made available for people to purchase.
I meant C42B11N01
I'm never sure what the letter at the start defines, Since neither are the same I can't really be sure if the 4oz one will be the same as the one I've got experience with due to the A/C switch.
edit - if its the same go for it, You won't be dissapointed with this batch. From what I've experienced so far its my favourite one.
yea, you can try batch C42B11N01 , i got it from Kron and i really like it.
if possible, try putting the sample vial into a very small atomizer (like the little guys that Nordstrom gives out). see how it is then.
Yeah thats what I do, I don't like using dabbing vials either.
Wow, buying my first car was easier than this! I will be ordering Aventus in directly from the Creed boutique. I plan to ask them the lot number they are sending me, and do some searching before hand. If I am satisfied with what I read, then I'll spend the 280 or w/e. However, if it arrives and it smells ashy, can I return it for a different batch provided I only enough to determine the scent?
Thank you, I have just sent an email to them via Creedbotique so I look forward to hear what they say. This really is a toss up for my signature scent for the next couple of years, Aventus or Reflection Man. I love both but can only afford one, oh the horror!
Just received my bottle a few days ago, have tried it on the day of arrival, and today for the second time. I had not read this thread before receiving it, and wouldn't have bothered if not for the massive disappointment and disillusionment I've had with this scent.
Based on reviews I was expecting heavy pineapple. What I got was a faint smoky scent, very weak. If this was a $10 cheap generic cologne I'd still have my expectations shattered. I smelt no pineapple. Let's ignore day 1, I decided to give it another shot today, properly, before going out.
I sprayed it 5 times (1 on each side of the neck, 1 to the chest, 1 to each wrist), and it was smoky again. I smelt a hint of freshness, and it actually did have a bit of resemblance (if you could get past the smokiness) to Joop Nightflight, which apparently is a pineapple scent as well. Maybe I don't know what pineapple smells like?
Anyway, within 5 minutes I still had trouble smelling any freshness, so I applied another 3-4 sprays, and once more on my shirt. Through the 2-3 hours I spent at a restaurant, I couldn't really smell more than faint whiff of 'freshness'. It's been about 4 hours now, and I still cant smell anything unless I hold my nose right up to my skin.
MASSIVE disappointment. I came to Basenotes to see what they had to say, and looked up my batch number (a42b10k04) and see it's not only me.
I can't believe I threw away so much money on possibly the worst blind buy I've ever had (outside of Alan Cumming's cologne). That said, I'm going to give it a few more tries. I remember I hated Zino Davidoff and M7 the first few times I tried them on, before coming to love them. But at least I could still smell those after applying! Not so with this POS Creed.
Unfortunately you've bought what many people consider to be the worst batch of Aventus out there. Another thing you've got to keep in check with Aventus is overspraying, Its a deceptively strong fragrance and you'll get the effect of not being able to smell it if overapplied.
Send it back if you're not happy with it.
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3) Royal Oud by Creed
4) One Million by Paco Rabanne
5) Allure Homme Sport by Chanel
I am wearing Aventus today and am really enjoying it....although today was from a sample vial that I dabbed on.
Thanks for all the replies.
You know what? Just don't buy Aventus if you don't like ash/smoke. Just don't! Who carers what batch you get, you'll moan! Jut get something you'll definitely like!!
Thank you for your useless post.
Today's batches are just not the same as the ones at launch. It's as simple as that. This scent was changed, and for the worse in my opinion. Glad I got enough of the original stuff to last me a lifetime.
Pretty much the same type of transition occured from Windsor I to Windsor II. Windsor I will never be back.. as I feel the launch Aventus will never be back. Get hunting if you are so inclined. For me, it was well worth it in both instances. Good luck all.
Got my aventus today A42B11N01 and the Pineapple is much more prominent than the last bottle I had (A42B10K02) Also the longevity is much better. With that said it's still not as good as the first batch I bought which was
C4210E01, that batch lasted forever on my skin...
Last edited by checker; 23rd July 2011 at 03:26 AM.
That happens easily when you believe a couple of Creed plants who blatantly hype up a given fragrance, rather than "trust but verify" with your own nose.
I never bought any Aventus, but I did spray from a N.M. tester two days in a row, which was enough, and I find your review rather mild.
I do regret your experience, though. Next time, try to go through divergent testimonies with a better sense of who seems to speak out truthfully and who seems to be attempting to increase the sales of a matchlessly shameless brand.
Now now Mazel-troll, the mods are watching, you have already had one thread locked two days ago..
I should update; I decided to try the Aventus again today before heading out to work. 5 sprays (as I said earlier, it was very weak to my nose), and this time, I couldn't detect any of that smoke/ash that I'd previously detected. While I still can't smell any pineapple, and it seemed like a weak citrus scent to me, I wore it all day with no thought about it, until late afternoon when a female colleague, who I've known 2 years, complimented my cologne and asked what it was. It was particularly surprising as she's never complimented (or even mentioned) any of my previous scents in all the time I've known her, plus the fact that I could barely smell it.
I don't know, can a cologne take some time to 'settle' after air transport? I hope that's the case, and that smoke smell stays gone. I'll have to keep trying Aventus at least 2x a week, see how I go from here. I'm slightly less pissed off with this purchase now.
I've had 3 Aventus's now. On opening day last summer (E01), a flacon in the winter (J01), and a bottle a couple months ago (K03).
Guess what... they are ALL THE SAME. If I had to sit down and was forced to conjur up a difference for the sake of controversy on a website, I would say that J01 batch has a touch more blackcurrant. Stop the presses!
However, I've used the same bottle on different occasions and this frag DOES react differently based on humidity, heat, and other factors. Boosh is 100% correct, this IS an ashy/birchy/oakmoss scent at its heart. If you don't like that, then MOVE ON! Sometimes, the pineapple/apple/fruity topnotes will last 5 minutes. Sometimes it will last 1 hour. This happens regardless of the batch, people.
As far as Windsor II, again, I own both and I regularly do wrist-to-wrist comparisons with no success in being able to distinguish a difference. I will say that the Windsor II lasts a little longer, so in my opinion, WII wins.
If you would look back at the original Windsor and Aventus threads, you will see that this whole entire "batch" controversy stems from the comments of ONE (i.m.o.) over-respected member. A member who over-invested in Windsor I and has an incentive to bash the second release, and this member also hated Aventus from the start and decided to wage a campaign against it by over-blowing the slight-to-nil differences in batch releases. I won't "out" this member... it's in the books as they say if you care to do some research.
The point is... not everyone will like every fragrance. If you don't like Aventus, that's fine. That's your personal taste. I like Aventus from the first sniff from the first batch a year ago, and I like Aventus from this morning's application from one of the latest batchs.
But just say "this fragrance isn't for me"!!! It's NOT some f'ing conspiracy from the folks at Creed to screw you over personally. And the people who claim this are either woefully gullible or fantastically egotistical. Or perhaps an unfortunate combination of both.
Last edited by fumegator; 28th July 2011 at 01:26 PM.
When it comes to woeful differences between batches of Creed, differences substantiated not by one person, but by dozens of commentators, what the Creed salesmen would like you to believe is: nothing to see here, move on, folks, just keep handing out the dough to us, we're laughing at you all the way to the bank.
Disagreeing is fine, and you have every right to do so. However, I find your tone and mudslinging majorly hypocritical.
Last edited by b0n3z; 28th July 2011 at 11:06 PM.
I agree with bOn3z...new batches are not close to the original....not to my nose, or your nose, or people at Creed's noses and so on....
The new batches are good, just not as great as the first round....I even offered to buy a half used tester today at Saks. (batch ended in E...)
I feel like I need to make a move on Royal Oud now in case they change it as well.
I've got batch #C42B10J01 and I'm getting unreal sillage and longevity with it...as in I am still getting solid wafts of it 10 hours later, and that was with 1 spray to the chest, 1 to the neck, and then 1 on each arm. Even at the 5-6 hour mark, my Mom exclaimed she could "smell my cologne from a mile away." The only thing about this batch is that I'm getting very little of the supposed "royal pineapple" accord in the top. It smells very ashy and leathery...it actually smells like a wallet filled with crisp, fresh money...but I love it.
Your mileage will vary!
What I've been wearing far too much of lately:
-Amouage Lyric Man
-Guerlain Gourmand Coquin
-Creed Jardin d'Amalfi
Anybody wonder, why other niche (as well as the non-niche) vendors do not have a batch discussion?
I can answer this question, I could even put a price tag with it: Creed is not willing to pay for an automized QA4-system in pre-production (that is in the initial mixes, before going large-scale) coupled with a quantumtest-unit in their production facilities. Tell that the guys over at COTY and they will laugh their heads off. The result is exactly what is described in this thread: products, that due to unwanted chemical cross-reactions fall flat of any quality standards. And no, that is not because Creed is a niche company - most other small companies are not experiencing these problems, as QA facilities are simply part of any production process and their utilization is priced into the retail prices.
This means: Either Creed is greedy as hell by slashing costs in their production process to maximize profits without caring at all about what the customer gets for his bucks or they are unable to make a cut given their current product pricing (which is at $150 a bottle) and therefore temporarily have to take these extreme measures in production. Decide for yourself.
Anyways, stopped by Neimans in Atlanta a few days ago..sprayed on Aventus, and yep, it smells the same as my bottle (one of the early batches) and same as the pre-release sample I had.
Welcome back Mazel-troll...just intime for some weekend thrashing!
Oh, give me a break, I am not "trolling," I just occasionally respond to only the most obvious Creed spamming. (I pretend to ignore the subtler one.)
One should also note that vulgar, offensive sentences such as / "i do believe there's a term for what miner just peddled. it starts with "bull" and ends with "it". / do not seem to bother the valiant Creed lawyers team. It's only the responses.
You guys sound like you are fragrance experts but you have no basic clue about production processes?? People, they are even everywhere the same, that's industry standard Then again I maybe wouldn't know also if I would not have to, so nevermind...in short: you have a pre-processing stage used for mixing and test batches. This is a laboratory setting located wherever your nose is at. The production stage covers the cycle all the way to bottling. NO niche house has the production stage inhouse - never ever, you'd be lacking economies of scale. BUT: with the production stage being outsourced, you don't pay a flat fee for "production", but you pay for each and every single step (conservation, RM iterations, bottling; along with which machinery you use - necessary as production facilities don't only output EDTs but also room scents), so you can decide which level of QA you want to have. Given what is reported here, it is easy to see for everyone involved in the industry what is going on: Creed drastically and intentionally saves on QA, both in preproduction and production. And no, they surely do not have an own bottling facility
Overall, IMO Creed batch variations are overblown and dramatized to a large degree here at BN. More of the exception rather than the rule. There is never any intention on Creed's part to "rip off" anyone--that is ludicrous. Creed has megabucks in play and are fully invested in selling a quality product to maintain or grow their share of the fragrance market. Just like other houses, I understand Creed fragrances will not appeal to everyone for one reason or another.
Did anybody had batch # A42B10K03.
I saw same # ending with 02. Does last number makes huge difference?
Last edited by priest; 3rd August 2011 at 06:50 AM.
All this seems so very unscientific. People are comparing what they are smelling or supposed to be smelling on what some guy halfway around the world says that he is smelling. I have smelled multiple samples of this fragrance and they all are the same. Im supposed to have one of the dreaded "bad" batches and it smells the same as every tester ive tried w different batch numbers. Has anyone collected multiple different batches and blind tested them at the same time? I realize that most people dont let facts get in the way of coming to a conclusion. Also, this may be the ultimate first world problem..........
I searched, however, couldn't find anything.
It seems that seller is from "Cyrillic" country and typing batch number used some strange encoding. Thus browser search didn't find anything copying/pasting number from email.
Sorry, my bad.
Anyway, going to buy A42B10K03 2.5oz tester.
^ The ones endiing with the K may be the poorest of the bunch.
Sad that this needs to be a discussion. Jesus, Creed.
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^ I agree. Aventus should be Aventus.....not aventus batch #.........
Hey guys i have A42b11N01, here's a great example of olfactory fatigue. I been testing it on my Arm and can't notice it after an hour. I sprayed some on my friend Kristas wrist and she could smell it no problem the next day. I think i use Aventus too often, with that said it's a great batch..love this stuff since it came out.