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    Default The best Bay Rum......that doesn't turn into cloves

    I'd really like to have a nice Bay Rum in my collection, and so far I've only tried Royall and C.O. Bigelow, which both end up smelling like potpourri on me. Suggestions?

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    Well, Royall is very clovey. Bigelow, to me, is more about the synthetic woody drydown but very good and a bit spicy. Ultimately, the eugenol in Pimenta Racemosa will always wind up a bit clove-like. However, for a pure bay rum that displays both the green and spicy elements of bay, you have three options:

    Cheap - Superior 70 - Available from Walgreens.com and a few of their B&M stores for under $3; 70% alcohol, bunch of bay oil
    Still pretty cheap - Dominica - Available from many online vendors; straight bay, fleeting, oddly soothing as an aftershave splash
    Still a damn fine bargain - Meehan/Bonny Doon - Magical melding of cane spirits (boozy!), rosewater (soothing and fleetingly fragrant), and bay oil (rich and deep and long-lasting)

    The last of these three has excellent longevity for a bay rum and is my personal favorite.

    You might also give Lubin Idole a spin; the saffron and tobacco take it out of straight bay rum territory, but a big boozy opening and a spicy middle yield the general impression of a bay rum with all-day longevity and superb wearability.

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    I second Superior 70.

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    Plain and simple Old Spice has a strong bay rum note, without any perceptible sensation of clove

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    Dominica Bay Rum.

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    Best cheapie: Superior 70
    Best overall: St. John's

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    Col. Conk Bay Rum

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    I like St. John's but I find it clovey compared to Dominica or Superior 70. Conk is a clove (and cinnamon) bomb.

    I also wanted to add that Aubrey Organics Spice Island is terrific, clove-free, and uses vetiver, nutmeg, and patchouli to round out the bay in a way that keeps even its clovey tendencies at...er...well, at bay.

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    Default Re: The best Bay Rum......that doesn't turn into cloves

    Perhaps not the best but my favorite is Under Control by J.A. Hard to get a hold of.

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    Dominica is just the best straightforward Bay Rum. Its just very well blended high quality Bay Oil in alcohol.
    St Johns is good too but much more complex with multiple ingredients - more iof a composed fragrance.
    Mehaan is very good strong micro-brewed bay with cane sugar alcohol (rum) and rose water.

    Clove oil and Bay oil (Pimenta Racemosa) do have a lot of commonality about them. I have both. The clove is deeper, more round and inedibly soft with a kind of dullness to it which helps it underscore bright florals so well. Bay is fresher, brighter, more astringent and medicinal. Thety are close though.
    Bay oil is pretty cheap so it won't be substituted or adulterated for reasons of cost.
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    Has anyone tried Malin + Goetz Rum tonic?
    I received a bar of their Bay Rum soap a while back in a free goodie bag and found it excellent.
    I'd be interested to hear how the perfume compares.

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    Default Re: The best Bay Rum......that doesn't turn into cloves

    The Dominica and Bonny Doon look promising.

    I'm assuming one can use the Dominica like an EdT and just splash it on (or decant it into an atomizer?)
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    Default Re: The best Bay Rum......that doesn't turn into cloves

    Cuba by Czech & Speake. How anyone can call Cuba anything but a fancy Bay Rum is beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post
    The Dominica and Bonny Doon look promising.

    I'm assuming one can use the Dominica like an EdT and just splash it on (or decant it into an atomizer?)
    Mike, you can just splash it on; that's what I've always done, sometimes as a true aftershave, sometimes on my chest as an EdT. It is fleeting, though, even on my skin, which normally produces excellent longevity with most frags. Great while it lasts, though! Bracing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOONB View Post
    Cuba by Czech & Speake. How anyone can call Cuba anything but a fancy Bay Rum is beyond me.
    I agree, but you also need to try Ogallala, esp. the limes and peppercorns and sage and cedar versions. The C.O. Bigelow one is also very good.

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    How about the Pinaud? Also curious about the long lost Creed version. Commentary about either?

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    Old Spice, far and away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrcologneguy View Post
    How about the Pinaud? Also curious about the long lost Creed version. Commentary about either?
    I think the Pinaud is awful. I can find something to like about most any bay rum. Pinaud...I guess it's the label. The scent is all cinnamon and clove and very little bay rum. Cheaply-made and smells it. I detest it.

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    Default Re: The best Bay Rum......that doesn't turn into cloves

    Quote Originally Posted by TRBeck View Post
    Mike, you can just splash it on; that's what I've always done, sometimes as a true aftershave, sometimes on my chest as an EdT. It is fleeting, though, even on my skin, which normally produces excellent longevity with most frags. Great while it lasts, though! Bracing.

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    So it sounds like the Bonny Doon lasts longer. I looked at the Meehan/Bonny Doon website. I'm assuming the one you're talking about is the Bay Rhum Cologne, not the 'Lotion'? This one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post
    So it sounds like the Bonny Doon lasts longer. I looked at the Meehan/Bonny Doon website. I'm assuming the one you're talking about is the Bay Rhum Cologne, not the 'Lotion'? This one?
    Mike, that's the stuff. Very long-lived for a bay rum, certainly moreso than Dominica. Dominica showcases the green, bright, bracing aspect of bay. Meehan showcases its spiciness and depth along with the richness of rum.

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    Default Re: The best Bay Rum......that doesn't turn into cloves

    Cool.

    They both sound good but the Meehan/Bonny Doon sounds like more my speed.

    The Dominica doesn't sound particularly rum prominent.
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    Default Re: The best Bay Rum......that doesn't turn into cloves

    Yeah, Dominica isn't particularly rum-smelling. Meehan is made with cane spirits, rosewater, and pimenta racemosa. Simple but boozy, nearly forming a shellac on the face if overapplied as aftershave. Very nice.

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