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    Default Shalimar Parfum Initial

    I got very surprised when i opened my regular sites today and saw fragrantica listing this one with the new idylle duet.
    It seems that it`s a new fragrance:

    "Shalimar Parfum Initial – scent of desires, joy and sensuality arrives in a flacon which reminds us of shape of the traditional edition. The new bottle is taller and sleeker than the previous. It is decorated with blue stopper and blue tassel on the neck of the flacon. Liquid of the flacon is coloured in warm pink.

    Composition of Shalimar Parfum Initial is created of citruses, green notes, flowers, woody accords and oriental scents. Starting from citruses, the composition adds zest of bergamot and orange. Rose flowers and jasmine enjoy embrace of woody accords of vetiver and patchouli, while oriental notes of vanilla, white musk and luscious tonka give seductive warmth to the whole composition. Green notes provide a fresher tone to the composition.

    Face of the advertising campaign for the new Shalimar Parfum Initial is Natalia Vodianova, photographed naked. These photos are supposed to represent innocence and chastity of woman's body, new Eve. The photos were taken by Paolo Roversi."

    Will this be a shalimar for beginners? Will this be similar to shalimar at all? Well, i`m curious to try

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    Default Re: Shalimar Parfum Initial

    It sounds similar to Eau Première in the sense that they're both a bit like training wheels for the real thing... But that's not necessarily a bad thing at all!


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    This sounds... un-Shalimar-ish. And you're right Tott, it sounds like an Eau Premiere kind of thing. And not only that, it sounds like Eau Premiere. (Citrus, orange, rose, jasmine, woods, white musk!?) Everyone is jumping on the EP bandwagon. Although I must admit Kenzo's (Flower Essentielle) is very well done.

    Don't think I'll be dreaming of this one, certainly not after Ode.

    But thank you for the heads-up!
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    Scheduled for a spring release in Europe. How do you see this in the context of Shalimar Eau Légère / Eau de Shalimar?

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    I find the mention of "white musk" in context with Shalimar amusing.

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    The juice is PINK!!!

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    Default Re: Shalimar Parfum Initial

    Quote Originally Posted by Mimi Gardenia View Post
    The juice is PINK!!!

    Check out the link !
    http://luxuryactivist.com/?p=1117
    Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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    Well, i have enjoyed a lot shalimar ode a la vanille, i wished it was not a limited edition
    Well, i don`t know exactly what to think of this one. As mimi said, it`s pink, and pink juices always turn the warning button on for me. I have an impression that eau de shalimar wasn`t the young crowder magnet they were expecting, so maybe LVMH is trying to do it again with this one?
    I hope that they are not trying to shape Guerlain and Dior like a generic Chanel. It`d be awful with this two brands of a great past

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimi Gardenia View Post
    The juice is PINK!!!
    It is so very, very pink. [Big red warning light is going off.]

    @Dr. Rudi, I think Rickbr is right. It sounds like the Eau was a flop and that this is take #2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Candy Perfume Boy View Post
    Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
    You do not know how hard I laughed!! Only perfume nuts like us would freak out over pink juice LOL!

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    Thank you all for the updates. I find the use of "pink" juice to be very juvenile. I like my parfums to be amber or cognac in colour.

    This must be the attempt to tap into a younger market.
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    Me too Primrose re. The preferred color of my perfumes. It'll be interesting to try though.
    Actually I'm somewhat shocked Guerlain have gone this direction with pink Shalimar juice .
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    Mimi, I dislike the "new" direction Guerlain has taken with coloured scents.

    The Voyages collection looked like Clinique skin care bottles, and the Elixir Charnels were pink and coloured.

    I do like Le Dandy Arsene Lupin (which is purple juice) and the bottle is the ugly wooden. The scent has to be lovely to overlook the goofy purple perfume and the ugly bottle...and the pricetag.

    I found the bottle design of their Petite Robe Noire (Little Black Dress) to be crass: the silly little "cartoon" of a black dress insults the design of the vintage Shalimar bottle.

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    Sometimes i just wonder how would Guerlain be perceived as brand if the classics didn`t exist and we only had all the post LVMH fragrances...

    About pinkiness, there`s only one fragrance until today that really surprised me, and it was Kelly Caleche. I`m yet to find another example that it`s pink and it`s not silly

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    I don't mind pink juice but Shalimar and pink? No way!

    The proof of the pudding is in the eating, so I'll give this a go when it comes out. Hopefully it will be on par with Eau Première.
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    And, we all know pink really does stink. Instead of Mitsouko Pink, it's Shalimar Pink!

    http://www.basenotes.net/content/600...lly-Does-Stink

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    Dr. Rudi- scary how close Baesnotes was re. Pink juice. Just never thought it would be Shalimar!

    Rick and Primrose- I also wonder how Guerlain as a brand would be perceived without it's classics and history - just post LVMH.
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    I'm ignoring the pink juice for now, it's the list of notes that are scaring me. I do not want fruit or white musk in my Shalimar. At least, I don't think I do.

    And what's with the rapid fire release of yet another Shalimar flanker? I mean they JUST came out with Shalimar Ode de le Vanille. WTH?

    Oh and one more thing: the name is weird. Shalimar Parfum Initial? What!?

    Just imagine how hard it's going to be to Google that name. Or furthermore, how confusing it's going to be for the SA's trying to sell this. They're going to think it's a parfum concentration fragrance...while clearly it's an EdP. (sigh)
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    ....

    why did they have to destroy Shalimar? nuuuuu

    i always though eau premiere to no 5 is shalimar light/eau leageure/eau de shalimar to shalimar.

    And it does seem that they have chosen Natalia to play the younger version of Brigitte Bardot and Serge Gainsbourg as the branding of Shalimar -- the song chosen for it was Initials BB, and it was obvious that Natalia is enacting BB according to the song in the ad. Parfum initial? Intials BB? mm.

    so what next? Shalimar 2012 Flanker: Shalimar Les Editions Bonnie & Clyde.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joey86 View Post
    so what next? Shalimar 2012 Flanker: Shalimar Les Editions Bonnie & Clyde.
    They've got my blessing if they bring back filth, depth and smoke.

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    Default Re: Shalimar Parfum Initial

    I hope it's nice... the pink juice is kind of interesting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post
    Oh and one more thing: the name is weird. Shalimar Parfum Initial? What!?

    Just imagine how hard it's going to be to Google that name. (sigh)
    Yup, the name is somewhat odd - sounds incomplete - it hasn't got the ring of Eau Premiere.
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    I expect that not much gets pushed through without passing under the keen nose of JP Guerlain. Sure he is only on board as an advisor, but I sincerely doubt much would get past him... especially a new twist on his family classic.
    I am reserving judgement until Ive sniffed it for myself.
    Was there any mention of this being a limited edition, or part of the permanent lineup?

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    Why can't they do something really outrageous, like bringing back Shalimar parfum as it once was? The Shalimar to end all Shalimars...

    Shalimar Parfum Final.

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    Hah - good one Sean ! I like the sound of Shalimar Parfum Final!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimi Gardenia View Post
    Hah - good one Sean ! I like the sound of Shalimar Parfum Final!
    I wonder if their associate coordinating artistic direction consultant for product development focus groups watches these forums for ideas Mimi

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    Hi Rick ! If they do , they aren't listening much ! Wish they would!
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    The SA tells it's a worldwide unlimited release. Judging from the notes listed, "Initial" will not refer to "Shalimar as in the beginning" but rather "Shalimar as clean and fresh and bright". I think it sounds like an "Habit Rouge Sport" twist on Shalimar. Greener, fresher, more floral - for those who didn't find Shalimar Light "young" enough. Shalimar Sport. But I'm sure I'll end up buying it. I kind of love all those spinoffs of Shalimar.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sorcery of Scent View Post
    I expect that not much gets pushed through without passing under the keen nose of JP Guerlain. Sure he is only on board as an advisor, but I sincerely doubt much would get past him... especially a new twist on his family classic.
    I am reserving judgement until Ive sniffed it for myself.
    Was there any mention of this being a limited edition, or part of the permanent lineup?

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    Ah, so the news is finally out, is it?

    Fingers crossed, the juice won't be a disaster... but the hue certainly doesn't bode well...
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    Well, maybe someone from Guerlain is following here...
    Read my lips! I'm among your target group of young (aehm, still ), sporting and WTH, but if it wasn't for your great classics, I would not even look at Guerlain. So, never dare to discontinue or fiddle around (more) with one of your classics!!!
    Still, the mention of 'white musk' for Shalimar is so ridiculous that it only gives me a sardonic grin...

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