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    Default New SL Fourreau Noir

    A new Serge lutens non export line

    http://www.fragrantica.com/perfume/S...Noir-6595.html

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    Notes: lavender, tonka, musk, almonds, smokey accords. This sounds like it could be another Louve. Fingers crossed, but expectations are not high. Serge really needs to slow things down a bit and come up with some fresh ideas.
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    Anything with lavender and tonka gets me excited. The comparisons to Gris Clair and Encens et Lavande, my two favourite Lutens (to wear, as a man), definitely put this on my must-try list!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggles View Post
    Notes: lavender, tonka, musk, almonds, smokey accords. This sounds like it could be another Louve. Fingers crossed, but expectations are not high. Serge really needs to slow things down a bit and come up with some fresh ideas.
    Actually, I wish Serge Lutens released nothing for a year or two, as well as come up with some fresh ideas (which they managed to achieve in 1999).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggles View Post
    Notes: lavender, tonka, musk, almonds, smokey accords. This sounds like it could be another Louve. Fingers crossed, but expectations are not high. Serge really needs to slow things down a bit and come up with some fresh ideas.
    Fresh ideas? Could you picture if Lutens was forced to do a take on traditional Eau de Cologne? That would be fresh and different. And surprising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scentsitivity View Post
    Fresh ideas? Could you picture if Lutens was forced to do a take on traditional Eau de Cologne? That would be fresh and different. And surprising.
    It would certainly be one heavy Eau.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scentsitivity View Post
    Fresh ideas? Could you picture if Lutens was forced to do a take on traditional Eau de Cologne? That would be fresh and different. And surprising.
    Wouldn't that be Fleurs de Citronnier?

    He failed on that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sofresh View Post
    Wouldn't that be Fleurs de Citronnier?

    He failed on that one.
    Eaux d'Orients, anyone? The smell of stagnating waters after the monsoon. Wait a minute, Hermes already did that one.

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    Bumpity!

    Has anyone else received a wax sample of this through the post?

    Brief first impressions: A medicinal Gris Clair... That warm lavender with a hint o' pine, or something. Easily 'masculine'.

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    I tried a wax sample, and my take is very cold,very dark, colder than Gris. That slight metallic note is also there........did I say it was cold. It gives me the impression of walking into an extremely cold, dark slate room, with no light.
    Brrr.....

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    I received a wax sample set as well. Out of the four, it's definitely the best IMHO.
    After Serge Noir - Fourreau Noir - what Noir to expect later this year? LOL.
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    My sample set came in the mail today. So far I'm liking it, I have developed a real weakness for immortelle...

    Edit: I've been wearing this for a few hours now. The immortelle stays relatively discreet, along with what I percieve as myrrh and an incensey lavender. All eventually fades into a slightly spicy, powdery, musky drydown. It really seems very nice and somewhat impersonal. I'd like to try this again though, in its liquid form, before I form a final opinion.

    In the meantime I would recommend Impériale Opoponax for that resinous, spicy, powdery quality (at a much, much better price) or 1740 Marquis de Sade with its wonderful lasting immortelle.
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    I got my wax sample yesterday and I hate it. It smells like a generic masculine with a lot of not very exciting musks. Made me sneeze and I couldn't wait to wash it off.
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    I agree with simisker. Although one can not really judge the fragrance from a wax sample, it smells like a deeper, warmer lavendel-based perfume. I liked it.

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    Would those who have smelled it, and like it, compare it to Gris Clair and/or Encens et Lavande?

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    Deep, rich and creamy/warm (although this could be due to the wax?), lavender scent with lots of tonka bean, in fact, reminded me of Patou Prive first few minutes although this is sweeter and smokier. As it progresses the metallic tinge becomes apparent which is a shame as I don't like this quality. Still, I like the wax sample more than Gris Clair.

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    (Wax sample)

    Absolutely fantastic and to be honest this one caught me by surprise. I enjoy lavender very much as a main theme, but it isn’t particularly exciting to me like some other ingridients so my expectations were not that high.
    Obviously this is a close cousin to both, Encence et Lavande and Gris Clair. It is warmer and sweeter than GC, more full-bodied. Comparing to EeL it is not that resinous plus the lavender comes way much more prominent.

    To cut the pretentious c*ap and trying not to sound like some mock-intellectual, I´d say Fourreau Noir smells quite exactly like one of those very sweet and sticky mint fudge bars that has been warmed up slightly in a micro wave to get those juices really flowing.


    I don’t think it is smoky at all. Not that almondy either. It’s just a simple (and masterfully engineered) blend of fresh and very juicy minty lavender served with pinches of two kinds of sugar; dusted and slightly burnt.

    It will easily get its fans.

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    Wow, a Serge Lutens that has finally stirred a bit of interest in me! This is very similar to Gris Clair but more creamy and delicious. The metallic accord is definitely less prominent here and I think some may even find this more wearable. Is it worth owning both? I'm not really sure at this point but, if its longevity is very good, I may have to delve into this creation a little further.

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    Encens et Lavande: brooding incense and lavender
    Gris Clair: metallic oriental lavender
    Fourreau Noir: gourmand lavender (with a metallic hint)

    90 minutes in and I'm starting to sense similarities to both A*Men and Borneo. That's not to say there are any coffee or cocoa notes - the closest accord being a slight caramelised sugar note amongst the tonka. I'm still enjoying it but can't understand how something like this is part of the exclusive line - it's not exactly edgy or challenging. I can see this one being very popular.
    Last edited by Trebor; 5th September 2009 at 10:19 AM.

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    I'm finally giving the wax sample a go, and I do like this. Would describe it as a dusty gourmand lavender. Find it cosy and comfortable to wear.

    I already own Encens et Lavande (which is one of my most worn scents) and Gris Clair (which it took some time for me to get but which I ended up enjoying) but there's definitely room for Fourreau Noir in my wardrobe, too!
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    Sounds great to me!

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    Fbw?

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    At first I didn't care for this one at all but over the last couple weeks I've really fallen for this so much that I'm using one of the France shopping specialists recommended on here to pick up a belljar of the stuff for me.

    In doing a side-by-side test of Fourreau Noir and Gris Clair, FN is much more creamy/sweet.. it is so perfectly balanced and nice on my skin. Gris Clair, on the other hand, is crisp and even a little sharp.. I've always gotten an office/workplace vibe from Gris Clair (an unforgivably bad thing in my book) but FN sorta takes the Gris Clair idea and makes it playful and even somewhat intimate. It's very cozy and soft to my nose, I like!

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    Finally wearing FN in the EdP form and I do love it. I find it very comforting and calming and just like the other two parts of SL "Lavender Trinity" it made me sleep like a log... I especially enjoy the cool-warm contradiction: the cold breeze of lavender and the cozy warmth of the sweet notes.

    Encens et Lavande still remains #1 for me, but Fourreau Noir takes silver and Gris Clair bronze...
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    It came today




    I wonder if the shape of the belljar is playing an optical illusion on me.. when I look down on the bottle from the top it turns from a soft pink color into an almost blood red color:


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    Encens et Lavende and Fille en Aiguilles are my two must haves from SL
    Is the juice worth the squeeze?

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    The juice is gorgeous Flouris.

    I've tested the FN once, and it didn't really rub me the right way, but I am will be testing it again soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post
    The juice is gorgeous Flouris.

    I've tested the FN once, and it didn't really rub me the right way, but I am will be testing it again soon.
    I didn't care for it at first either.. it's definitely not as bizarre as I typically like my Lutens frags. Upon first trying the sample I tossed it into the pile of things I'd likely never touch again but gave it a 2nd go around and this time something had piqued my curiosity. Then (and I'll sheepishly admit this sold me) during the course of the day wearing it I got four compliments from four women (strangers) all expressing a lot of enthusiasm for how much they liked it. Well ok! I really like it too!

    I'm starting to realize scents I like at the very first sniff.. I grow tired of. But scents that I dislike at first, or that confuse me.. after wearing them a few times and getting to know them, I develop a really strong desire to get a full bottle of. FN was the latter.

    I also think I'm really liking the dabber style bottle! Seems much easier to control how much you put on.

    Scent: I'm a bit torn on Fille en Aiguilles... may put my bottle of it (and MKK, love it but never wear it) up on my sale page tomorrow. Too many Lutens bottles, not enough time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggles View Post
    It would certainly be one heavy Eau.
    And 6 months later... comes SL's 'white-noise' L'eau.

    Quote Originally Posted by flouris View Post
    I'm starting to realize scents I like at the very first sniff.. I grow tired of. But scents that I dislike at first, or that confuse me.. after wearing them a few times and getting to know them, I develop a really strong desire to get a full bottle of. FN was the latter.
    My thoughts exactly... which is why I must go on a hunt for FN!

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    I think FN is brilliant! For me it is a return to form for the house. Maybe they took a stepo back again with L'Eau, but at least they still have it in them to realease something fantastic.

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    [QUOTE=flouris;1696953]It came today




    I wonder if the shape of the belljar is playing an optical illusion on me.. when I look down on the bottle from the top it turns from a soft pink color into an almost blood red color:

    Your fourreau noir seems brighter than mine...

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    I bought this one blind, and I cannot say that i regretted. At first, I didn't like it, because the first notes that i detect seem very common, a lavender with vanilla undertones that reminded me of caron pour un homme and rochas man. But then, the fragrance started to darken on my skin, and I detected a dry almond note. The dry almond note lead on my skin a caleidoscopic feeling of fruits, spices and incense, that seems to got ramdonly on my nose. Sometimes i detect the fruits with that boozy undertones that lutens seems to use as its signature, but then the fruits go and I feel incense undertones, followed by spices, and then i detec the vanilla, lavender and almond contrasting with the fruits, that on the next step goes again to the incense and spicy direction. I can say that forreau noir is an interesting fragrance to be observed while it develops on skin. I don't if it one of the best lutens creations, but i liked it a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickbr View Post
    I bought this one blind, and I cannot say that i regretted. At first, I didn't like it, because the first notes that i detect seem very common, a lavender with vanilla undertones that reminded me of caron pour un homme and rochas man. But then, the fragrance started to darken on my skin, and I detected a dry almond note. The dry almond note lead on my skin a caleidoscopic feeling of fruits, spices and incense, that seems to got ramdonly on my nose. Sometimes i detect the fruits with that boozy undertones that lutens seems to use as its signature, but then the fruits go and I feel incense undertones, followed by spices, and then i detec the vanilla, lavender and almond contrasting with the fruits, that on the next step goes again to the incense and spicy direction. I can say that forreau noir is an interesting fragrance to be observed while it develops on skin. I don't if it one of the best lutens creations, but i liked it a lot.
    I have yet to test this one. Is the dry almond you describe from a tonka or coumarin note, or a heliotrope note? Do you think the perfumer was going for an actual almond note?
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    I think I need to order samples of FN, Gris Clair, and Encens et Lavande and try them side by side. Gris Clair certainly appeals...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrclmind View Post
    I have yet to test this one. Is the dry almond you describe from a tonka or coumarin note, or a heliotrope note? Do you think the perfumer was going for an actual almond note?
    To me, it seems more like an actual almond note. It has that bitterness that tonka or coumarin note doesn`t have. To me, tonka and coumarin notes has more like an almond sweet smell, while heliotrope looks more to me like sweet liqueurish almond, in a silk way. The almond i detect on fourreau has a dry, bitter and ink smell.

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    I have Gris Clair and I wore it to bed last night....It tucked me in! I have a sample of Fourreau Noir at home waiting for me!!! Cant wait to try it!

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    Fourreau Noir isn't groundbreaking... but it sure is a quality fragrance. I've not tried Encens et Lavande (shame on me) yet - but I did own bottles of Gris Clair. I get lots of Gris Clair here (lavender) and smokey elements from Fumerie Turque (without the honeyed tabac) and some spice from Serge Noire. I get the impression that Fourreau Noir is very polished - very Lutens and VERY wearable. In fact, it is a pleasure to wear and very classic having a fougere structure. When it gets to be part of the export line I will have a bottle of it. For now my bell jar I split with a good friend will suffice, especially with the higher Lutens prices as of late.

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