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    Thumbs up Creed lot numbers...SOLVED!

    So, after collecting a list or LEGIT Creed lot numbers from numerous sources, I decided to run some analysis on the Creed lot number mystery. It was pretty straight forward once I glanced at all the data.

    First off, I’ve found that from 2007 and before, Creed used the 7-character lot designation, where the last two digits do in fact represent the YEAR. I didn’t bother to delve further into the other digits because: i) this system is now discontinued, and ii) people usually just care about what year their bottle is.

    From 2008 and on Creed used the 8-character lot number designation where the first letter (usually an “A”), represents the house of Creed (some newer bottles seem to have a "C" which also stands for "C"reed).

    The following two digits represent the scent ID number in their line-up (see sample list below).

    The 4th & 5th digits represent the YEAR, so you will only see an 08, 09, 10, or 11 (self-explanitory).

    And the last 3 characters I could only speculate on because I wasn’t given enough data from my sources to determine what they meant.

    The 6th character is always a letter, and in all my data I’ve only seen either an: A, E, F, G, K, X, or Y. The last two digits are only ever an 01, 02, or 03, which leads me to speculate that this may be a region code. Why I’m guessing this is a region code and not bottle size is because the data shows that there is too much variation between these last two numbers and size.
    **EDIT: now that "04" seems to be popping up I'm wondering if this means quarter in which the batch was made (ie Quarter 01, Q2, Q3, or Q4)**

    If you want to help solve the last 3-charater problem then reply to the thread with info such as lot number, scent, bottle size, language of inserts, and location of purchase.

    Creed scent ID numbers:

    01=SVanille
    02=S&W

    10=AA
    11=AC
    12=BdeG
    13=BdeC
    14=C
    15=CB
    16=E
    17=F
    18=OSpice
    19=REL
    20=RSL
    21=SI
    22=Vetiver (1948)
    23=ZMP

    30=BdP
    31=Erolfa
    32=GIT
    33=MI
    34=NS
    35=SMW
    36=RW
    37=GV
    38=Tabarome
    39=Himalaya
    40=OV
    41=OS
    42=Aventus

    50=FdeF
    51=FdeB
    52=TI
    53=Vanisia
    54=JIE
    55=RD
    56=SF
    57=2000F
    58=Irisia
    59=Jasmal
    60=LIB
    61=LIW
    62=VIW
    63=AF

    75=CM
    76=FdeTRB

    81=Windsor

    89=LesF

    96=RC

    EDIT: So, I did some more analysis of the 7-character lot number system (from ?-2007), and speculated based on my data that the 2nd "letter" is the scent ID code:

    Examples:
    B=Erolfa
    C=GIT
    D=MI
    E=NS*
    F=SMW
    G=RW
    H=GV*
    I=Tabarome*
    J=Himalaya
    K=OV
    L=
    M=OS


    *yet to be verified, so please contribute with your numbers!!!
    Last edited by JohnHarvard; 9th February 2011 at 10:43 PM.

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    Default Re: Creed lot numbers...SOLVED!

    my GIT is 8 digit.....A3201D08 so it was made in 01?

    its clear 2.5oz
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    Default Re: Creed lot numbers...SOLVED!

    Quote Originally Posted by dredmahawkus View Post
    my GIT is 8 digit.....A3201D08 so it was made in 01?

    its clear 2.5oz
    Hi,
    My data set consisted of 86 serial numbers and this is the first I've seen of an 01, so for the time being i'll have to consider it an outlier. But this is good, the more info I'm given the finer I can tune this. I encourage others to post their serial numbers al well!

    BTW, what was the insert language in your box and where did you buy the bottle?

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    Default Re: Creed lot numbers...SOLVED!

    There might be a "batch" code involved also. The first, second, fifth, ninth whatever batch of the scent made during which ever year. It could be in there somewhere.

    Also, on the batches of Windsor discussion, weren't there lot numbers that began with C instead of A?
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    Default Re: Creed lot numbers...SOLVED!

    Quote Originally Posted by DustB View Post
    There might be a "batch" code involved also. The first, second, fifth, ninth whatever batch of the scent made during which ever year. It could be in there somewhere.

    Also, on the batches of Windsor discussion, weren't there lot numbers that began with C instead of A?
    Yes, I forgot to add that on the latest batches (also seen on Aventus), it seems that they are replaceing the "A" with a "C" which stands for "C"reed...pretty logical.

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    Default Re: Creed lot numbers...SOLVED!

    Quote Originally Posted by DustB View Post
    There might be a "batch" code involved also. The first, second, fifth, ninth whatever batch of the scent made during which ever year. It could be in there somewhere.

    Also, on the batches of Windsor discussion, weren't there lot numbers that began with C instead of A?
    That's what I was thinking as well. Those last digits, I'd assume have something to do with various batches throughout the year as opposed to regions.
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    Default Re: Creed lot numbers...SOLVED!

    Quote Originally Posted by mtgprox05 View Post
    That's what I was thinking as well. Those last digits, I'd assume have something to do with various batches throughout the year as opposed to regions.
    Yeah, at first I only found 01, 02, and 03 at the end, but with the help of the people on this forum I've got a few numbers ending in 04 now.

    Makes me think: Could this be representative of the year-quarter in which it was made (ie Q1, Q2, Q3, or Q4)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewHaarlem View Post
    Doesn't look like those summations account for post 2008 bottles.

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    Wink Re: Creed lot numbers...SOLVED!

    Lol...Einstein shoulda stayed around to solve this..!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2tec View Post
    Lol...Einstein shoulda stayed around to solve this..!
    We could get some chics from MIT to look into this..probably take em ..1. miiiiinute....solved!

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    Smile Re: Creed lot numbers...SOLVED!

    Poor supercomputers..smoking.... on account lot nos.

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    Default Re: Creed lot numbers...SOLVED!

    Mine is from Creed's MI, which I bought late 2009. The serial number is A3309T01
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    Default Re: Creed lot numbers...SOLVED!

    I have a bottle of Vetiver from the Creedboutique.com with 1007522?

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    Default Re: Creed lot numbers...SOLVED!

    Quote Originally Posted by neal View Post
    I have a bottle of Vetiver from the Creedboutique.com with 1007522?
    Yes, that is their reference number. The "10" is the year, the "075" is the size in ml (I bet you have a 2.5oz/75ml bottle ), and "22" is the scent ID for the Vetier (1948) EDT version.

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    Default Re: Creed lot numbers...SOLVED!

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnHarvard View Post
    Yes, that is their reference number. The "10" is the year, the "075" is the size in ml (I bet you have a 2.5oz/75ml bottle ), and "22" is the scent ID for the Vetier (1948) EDT version.
    You Harvard Cantabridgians are so smart!
    It is a 75 ml bottle and I bought it in the summer of 2010.
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    Default Re: Creed lot numbers...SOLVED!

    Quote Originally Posted by neal View Post
    You Harvard Cantabridgians are so smart!
    It is a 75 ml bottle and I bought it in the summer of 2010.
    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/254...in)?highlight=
    Thanks for the compliment!

    Hopefully, with this info we can start buying online with more confidence.

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    Default Re: Creed lot numbers...SOLVED!

    This is still an educated guess but a guess nonetheless. You cannot confirm to have solved the lot number issue as there is no way for you to verify your results.

    Thanks for the bit of speculation though. Interesting and possibly true. Who knows!

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    Quote Originally Posted by badr View Post
    This is still an educated guess but a guess nonetheless. You cannot confirm to have solved the lot number issue as there is no way for you to verify your results.

    Thanks for the bit of speculation though. Interesting and possibly true. Who knows!
    Yes, as a scientist I agree with you! I would love to have a data set in the thousands to increase my confidence interval, but I'm merely posting what I've been able to extrapolate from the data given. Keep posting those numbers & info!

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    hmmmm I dont remember where I got this.....I think from allshewants on ebay...its a tester.

    I just got aventus today 4.0 from neimans natic ma...and it has 9 digits! A42B10K03
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    Quote Originally Posted by dredmahawkus View Post
    hmmmm I dont remember where I got this.....I think from allshewants on ebay...its a tester.

    I just got aventus today 4.0 from neimans and it has 9 digits! A42B10K03
    Yep, the inserted "B" is assumed to be for "B"atch year...I should have mentioned that when I explained the "A" to "C" change. But I dont have enough serial numbers on the latest 2010 versions so please add your numbers!

    The fact that its a tester could have something to do with it...all the numbers I collected were strictly NOT from testers. Sorry I didnt mention that earlier.
    Last edited by JohnHarvard; 6th February 2011 at 08:46 PM.

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    Default Re: Creed lot numbers...SOLVED!

    btw if that is a batch number then this kinda sucks compared to the tester in the store....I tried this in the store and the store was sweeter...smoother. this bottle is kinda harsh and mega smokey. the fruity leaves it 5 min after applied.
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    Default Re: Creed lot numbers...SOLVED!

    Quote Originally Posted by dredmahawkus View Post
    btw if that is a batch number then this kinda sucks compared to the tester in the store....I tried this in the store and the store was sweeter...smoother. this bottle is kinda harsh and mega smokey. the fruity leaves it 5 min after applied.
    Give it some time. I've heard from secondary sources that Mr. Creed himself prefers "aged" batches over newer ones. I guess it's kind of like a wine, seeing that they're both comprised of organic ingredients.

    For what it's worth, I think my new bottle of OV (A4009Y02), doesnt have the complexity of my older stock, but I'm not bothered and I still love it. I mean, I'm glad all my bottles of Bordeaux don't taste the same. There's something special about each one!

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    Default Re: Creed lot numbers...SOLVED!

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnHarvard View Post
    Give it some time. I've heard from secondary sources that Mr. Creed himself prefers "aged" batches over newer ones. I guess it's kind of like a wine, seeing that they're both comprised of organic ingredients.

    For what it's worth, I think my new bottle of OV (A4009Y02), doesnt have the complexity of my older stock, but I'm not bothered and I still love it. I mean, I'm glad all my bottles of Bordeaux don't taste the same. There's something special about each one!
    I am looking forward to a 1961 Château Vetiver.

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    Default Re: Creed lot numbers...SOLVED!

    Quote Originally Posted by dredmahawkus View Post
    btw if that is a batch number then this kinda sucks compared to the tester in the store....I tried this in the store and the store was sweeter...smoother. this bottle is kinda harsh and mega smokey. the fruity leaves it 5 min after applied.
    I bought A42B10K03 from the Natick Neiman's, but I returned it today because it varied a lot from the tester, which is C4210E01.

    The SA gave me the line about variability because of natural ingredients, but I eventually got a refund after they were unable to find a C4210E01 to exchange. They either didn't know about or acknowledge the signficant variability across batches.

    A42B10K03 had more pineapple than C4210E01, although the dry down of A42B10K03 wasn't as nice as C4210E01. I got less citrus and more fig/blackcurrant apple in the C4210E01. I also had concerns about the intensity and longevity of A42B10K03 compared to C4210E01. I didn't want to gamble at 280 a pop, so I'll stick to my Himalaya for now.

    Thanks to this forum for validating this significant and unacceptable variation.
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    Default Re: Creed lot numbers...SOLVED!

    My 75ml bottle of BdP purchased from Creedboutique has no serial number at all, nor was it on the box which I still have.

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    Default Re: Creed lot numbers...SOLVED!

    Quote Originally Posted by Daryl J. View Post
    My 75ml bottle of BdP purchased from Creedboutique has no serial number at all, nor was it on the box which I still have.
    Will have to consider this one an outlier as well, until I get more numbers of 75ml BduP's that were purchased from the same location. But it's duly noted.

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    Default Re: Creed lot numbers...SOLVED!

    Quote Originally Posted by Daryl J. View Post
    My 75ml bottle of BdP purchased from Creedboutique has no serial number at all, nor was it on the box which I still have.
    Have you looked at the rear of the bottom lip of the bottle? Some have the lot no etched on there, not always easy to see.

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    Default Re: Creed lot numbers...SOLVED!

    My 75ml bottle of Baie de Genievre is: CA21Z05 IIRC it was purchased at Parfumsraffy. CA=California in this case?

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    Default Re: Creed lot numbers...SOLVED!

    Quote Originally Posted by Daryl J. View Post
    My 75ml bottle of Baie de Genievre is: CA21Z05 IIRC it was purchased at Parfumsraffy. CA=California in this case?
    Are you sure your number isn't CA12Z05? Because "21" is the current ID number for Santal Imperial and "12" is the ID number for Baie de Genievre.
    05 would be the year (although I had very few 2005 numbers, most data was from 2006-09 bottles). CA wouldnt be for Cali...according to my data.

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