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    Default Pure Havane -- a Summary Review

    Today I ran downstairs and found a white box the Fedex guy had left for me. I've not been as excited about a new scent as much as I was for this one in a long time.

    When I opened the box, I found an envelope with a letter containing the invoice and thanking me for my order. The box was filled with stringy blue packing confetti, which tied in nicely with th A*Men/Angel theme. The Pure Havane carton was inside a black see-thru mesh drawstring pouch. I love the cigar band logo on the box as well as the brown tobacco leaf textured look of the cardboard. There's a little sticker on the top, over the cellophane which is like the sticker that is found on cigars. The rubber flask is just a subtle difference of the color scheme of the Pure Malt bottle.

    OK, onto the important part-- the smell: I absolutely love this. I definitely has the A*men heritage, but like Pure Malt, it really branches out on its own.

    At first sniff, it went on smelling a little reminiscent of B*Men, but it quickly started evolving. I got a sense of deja vu-- there is some scent that this reminds me of just a little, but I can't quite get it. It almost reminds me a little bit of Chanel Allure Homme in its fresh/sweet feeling.

    On Pure Havane's box, it says the following:

    "When A*Men meets the Havana Cigar Smoker... Discover the tale of a fragrance inspired by the rule of thirds found in the art of savouring the finest Cigars. Just like a Cigar, the first third of the fragrance opens with a gentle aromatic note, without revealing anything of the intensity that is to come. The second third unfurls a note of honey-sweet tobacco that leads subtly to the final third where the sensual woody power is revived."

    I've had it on my skin for about an hour now and it is slowly evolving from the fresh opening ( I almost get a strange salty note of green olives in the first 20 seconds), to the picture perfect honey tobacco. It truly does smell like a cigar! Like some of the other Basenoters' comments about early misadventures with cigars and chewing tobacco, Ive had my share. When I was 14 years old, my first job was working in the fields detasseling corn. Some of the older guys gave me chewing tobacco and didn't tell me not to swallow the juice. I got really sick. It's also where I smoked my first cigarette (though I never became more than an occasional casual smoker and I haven't done that in years). When I was about 19, I smoked a bunch of cheap cigars, inhaling the smoke and got very sick from that. So I have a love hate relationship with tobacco. Pure Havane walks that line perfectly--it's a very realistic, expensive cigar smell, but it stops short of bringing back memories of "tobacco hangovers".

    I find it very different from Pure Malt. Pure Malt is infused from top to bottom with that peaty, boozy whisky note which you just can't overlook. Pure Havane obviously does not have this note, so they can't be that close anyway. The weird thing is that I'm testing it on my arm-- when I put my nose up to it and take a long draw, it's almost like taking a long puff from a cigar-- you get different facets at the end of the draw than you get at the beginning-- and at the end, I swear I can almost smell the heat as the tip reddens and gets hot. A little bit of smoke, but mostly just the subtleties of fine tobacco leaves.

    I can't really review it more completely until I live with it for a while and wear it several times, but already I enjoy it immensely. It's kind of a more mature, classy take on A*Men. Between this and Pure Malt, I'd have to say that Thiery Mugler is starting to knock 'em out of the park. Mugler is releasing imaginative high-quality scents which are intriguing, head turning, and appeal to the fun of being a guy, rather than all of this crazy austere fashion runway stuff-- I know Mugler is known for that too, but they never forget that the point is to have fun, and I find the Pure series to be pure fun.

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    Wonderful review.

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    Default Re: Pure Havane -- a Summary Review

    Received my package today too. I was also quite pleased with the fragrance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hednic View Post
    Received my package today too. I was also quite pleased with the fragrance.
    Im impressed. Any similarities ?

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    Nice review! Finally some impressions

    Again I have to ask this unanswered question. Someone mentioned vanilla and cinnamon spices...is it anything like a cinnamon bun?

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    Have you ever had a black n mild? Does it remind you of one?

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    Thanks for the great review!
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    To you, wich one is stronger, Pure Malt or Pure Havane?

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    I'm a 21 year old and I have never chomped a cigar in my life. Can someone foresee this fragrance being too bold for me? :/
    Nonetheless it has to be in my collection!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neurosis View Post
    Nice review! Finally some impressions

    Again I have to ask this unanswered question. Someone mentioned vanilla and cinnamon spices...is it anything like a cinnamon bun?
    Absolutely NONE - if there's vanilla there it's WELL hidden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PradaG View Post
    Have you ever had a black n mild? Does it remind you of one?
    It tries but doesn't quite make it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmellow View Post
    I'm a 21 year old and I have never chomped a cigar in my life. Can someone foresee this fragrance being too bold for me? :/!
    Too BOLD - no way.

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    Great impressions so far! My package still has yet to arrive :-(
    I'm interested to know what fragrance chems are listed in the ingredients -especially coumarin. Is there any listed?

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    Mr Mugler you have just made yourself an age niche with this fragrance
    This ain't young adult friendly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manuel View Post
    Great impressions so far! My package still has yet to arrive :-(
    I'm interested to know what fragrance chems are listed in the ingredients -especially coumarin. Is there any listed?
    From the box: Alcohol, Water, Parfum, Linalool, Coumarin, Limonene, Butylphenyl Methylpropional, Benzyl Salicytate, Citronellol,Geraniol, Citral, Cinnamal, Eugenol.

    Still can't think of what Pure Havane reminds me of...

    It really does evolve quite a bit. The second stage was really good. I started to get the tobacco very clearly and I finally realized what part of Versace 's the Dreamer was the tobacco. Tobacco smells different for me in each scent, and I never really got the tobacco in The Dreamer until I smelled the tobacco in Pure Havane. I didn't get much of the third stage, because I had to take a shower and participate in some focus group thing-- It was going to be close quarters with a bunch of strangers and I went without a fragrance-- though I could still smell the remnants of Pure Havane and I liked it. What I did get of the third stage is hard to describe, but it's dry and woody.

    I've never smelled Tobacco Vanille, but I really dig Pure Havane. Combining A*men with cigars, there was a potential to really go over the top and make something that would just drive people out of a room, with loudness. I find Pure Havane to be classy enough, with a slightly reserved air-- neither youngish or too mature.

    I also like the flask color. It's exactly the right shade of brown that screams "cigar". I like the subtle details with this one, and the entire Pure series. I know that some people hate flankers or wish Mugler would just move beyond the A*Men concept, but each Pure Limited Edition has been done with care, style and very good technical consideration. I hope they do a few more "Pures". I'll keep buying them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PradaG View Post
    Have you ever had a black n mild? Does it remind you of one?
    a friend of mine actually told me a different fragrance, mandarina duck pure black reminded him of a black and mild. ever tried that one?

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    Thanks for the review Indie. I love tobacco frags, so I might have to break my rule about no blind buys.
    You ever try Pure Coffee?

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    Thanks for your review. I can't wait to have this Pure.

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    I only tried Pure Coffee once-- The time I tried to wheel and deal that tester away from the Macy's SAs, to no dice. I meant to snag one from ebay, but I waited too long.

    I'm a coffee fanatic. A female friend bought me a French Press last year for my birthday, and that was all it took. I hate getting out of bed with a sleepy passion, but a cup of coffee is my one consolation.

    I like how each of the Pures is based on a vice. Caffeine. Alcohol. Nicotine. There are a few directions they could take the Pure line in the future.

    I think I figured out which scent Pure Havane reminds me of... It reminds me just a little bit of Burberry London, though I like Pure Havane more. Still, very different, but kind of a similar feel in places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indie_Guy View Post
    I hope they do a few more "Pures". I'll keep buying them.
    A*Men Pure Fire. The possibilities of what could come out of that bottle...

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    What I've found with recent frags like this is that at least one of the following will likely apply:

    1. Too sweet.
    2. Too synthetic.
    3. Simplistic base, often vanillic or tonka-dominated.
    4. Strong wood notes (usually not natural enough either).

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitch256 View Post
    A*Men Pure Fire. The possibilities of what could come out of that bottle...
    Interesting. Hadn't thought of that, but it would be interesting to see them take A*men and work in dark chocolate, red chili pepper and hot cinnamon notes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoGent View Post
    It tries but doesn't quite make it.
    I love me some black n milds. But really, if it tries to go for a cheap bargain cigar, and doesn't make it, how good can it be?
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    Sounds interesting, but I don't live nearby any place that will sell this one. It'll be a pass for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indie_Guy View Post
    Interesting. Hadn't thought of that, but it would be interesting to see them take A*men and work in dark chocolate, red chili pepper and hot cinnamon notes.
    An interesting interpretation, and "fire" notes on top of the a*men tar would be worth a sniff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtgprox05 View Post
    I love me some black n milds. But really, if it tries to go for a cheap bargain cigar, and doesn't make it, how good can it be?
    Let me help you out with that & clarify . . . . - for me - the fragrance that matches the depth of actual cigar tobacco in the drydown does not exist. Trying to mimic the real thing with synthetics is just dam near impossible. Everything is just an approximation trying to trigger a scent memory. Havane gets close especially in the drydown, but - like just about everything else - can't recreate the real deal.

    Your self-tests will tell you how good it can be. I absolutely HAVE to ask tho - when did black & mild reach the realm of a 'high quality' cigar ?

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    Thanks for the in-depth review !
    Can anyone answer this question please : Is this release and the Malt release a limited edition ? or are they stanadard releases.
    I had heard that Malt started off as a limited edition and due to its popularity they changed its status and it is still in production ?
    I dont know how true any of this is. In France you can still find Malt easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoGent View Post
    Too BOLD - no way.
    i'm 28 and i'm not sure i can even pull this one off. but part of that might be my personality.

    how old are you?

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    My Pure Havana arrived today via FedEX. I will cut straight to the chase in that this to me is the best of limited editions.

    It seems that the perfumer Jacques Huclier is given time to refine his creation. This version of A Men holds that tobacco / cigar note which is found in the women's version of Angel that cuts that fruity sweetness of that perfume and gives it that unique sillage.

    To me this is what the original A Men should have been the scent does not slide down to that dry down of sweet sticky candy vanilla but is controlled by a rich spicy tobacco note like the women's version. Shame this is going to be a limited edition it should have been released as a reworked EDP edition of A Men.

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