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    Default VC&A Tsar and Ralph Lauren Safari Pour Homme

    Are these scents too similar?

    I find they're almost identical and it's hard to tell which one is more floral and has the more leather.

    Any discussion on this?
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    Default Re: VC&A Tsar and Ralph Lauren Safari Pour Homme

    Hi Primerose,

    In my opinion VC Tsar and Safari are absolutly different, nothing in common. Apologies for my honesty.

    But you know, its only my feelings.
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    Default Re: VC&A Tsar and Ralph Lauren Safari Pour Homme

    Safari as well as many others released around the same years share a bergamot / green top note found in Eternity for Men. Tsar stands a tad apart from the bunch, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pollux View Post
    Safari as well as many others released around the same years share a bergamot / green top note found in Eternity for Men. Tsar stands a tad apart from the bunch, though.
    Can you expand on this? I find the openings of Tsar and Safari very similar, so perhaps that is what I am sensing.
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    Default Re: VC&A Tsar and Ralph Lauren Safari Pour Homme

    Both are quite different. VC&A Tsar is much better IMO.

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    Default Re: VC&A Tsar and Ralph Lauren Safari Pour Homme

    not similar imo. Tsar is better

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    Default Re: VC&A Tsar and Ralph Lauren Safari Pour Homme

    I smell no similarities at all.

    TSAR - Green woody aromatic fougere

    Safari - Leather fougere

    Both are damn good fragrances, though. I prefer Tsar.
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    Default Re: VC&A Tsar and Ralph Lauren Safari Pour Homme

    Quote Originally Posted by Primrose View Post
    Can you expand on this? I find the openings of Tsar and Safari very similar, so perhaps that is what I am sensing.
    You might check this out in order to test my supposition: look for scents released during the late 1980's and early 1990's...

    Safari for meni, 1992
    VC&A's Tsar, 1989
    CK's Eternity, 1989
    PR's XS, 1993

    Smell the top notes: according to their pyramids, Safari, Tsar and XS share bergamot in their top notes, in the case of Eternity, it is mandarin (if memory does not fail me). If you want to overindulge in this same note, check O pour Homme (1997), it is precisely the same top note I notice in these four taken to the extreme.

    I assume it must be the usual mechanism: a big corporation specialized in essences releases their last aromachemical and then implements sales efforts among the big corporations manufacturing scents for licensed brands. Presto, there you got the rendition of blends revolving around common notes.

    Take calone, dehydromircenol and iso e super, as well as esences replicating fruits, ginger, chocolate and caramel, there you got the reason why releases smell so similar.

    Anyway, of these four, Safari is the best one, IMHO, for the mid and base notes depart from their common denominator.

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    Default Re: VC&A Tsar and Ralph Lauren Safari Pour Homme

    VC&A's Tsar has been one of my favorites since early '90's. I haven't found any resemblance to Safari though...

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    I have finally come to the decision that I like both Safari and Tsar, but Tsar is a *little* more floral in the drydown.
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    Default Re: VC&A Tsar and Ralph Lauren Safari Pour Homme

    Hi Primrose,

    Are you talking about the original Tsar or Eau de Tsar which, I think was late 90's? Eau de Tsar might have a similar feel with the Bergamot at the top and the oakmoss at the bottom and it's lighter that the original Tsar.

    Otherwise it might be the dry down that's similar? They are not alike to my nose but those elements might be toying with you?
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    Default Re: VC&A Tsar and Ralph Lauren Safari Pour Homme

    I saw a youtube review in which the review compared Safari to Gucci Nobile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koala501 View Post
    Hi Primrose,

    Are you talking about the original Tsar or Eau de Tsar which, I think was late 90's? Eau de Tsar might have a similar feel with the Bergamot at the top and the oakmoss at the bottom and it's lighter that the original Tsar.

    Otherwise it might be the dry down that's similar? They are not alike to my nose but those elements might be toying with you?
    Koala, this would be the original Tsar in so far as it's in the new bottle.
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    Default Re: VC&A Tsar and Ralph Lauren Safari Pour Homme

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    I saw a youtube review in which the review compared Safari to Gucci Nobile.
    Well, no IMHO. Brooks Brothers for Men does share top and mid notes with Safari, but BB's projection and longevity are far more limited than S'.

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    Default Re: VC&A Tsar and Ralph Lauren Safari Pour Homme

    Thank you all for the input and the history!
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