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    Hello,

    I have been lurking on basenotes for some time now, using it as a valuable resource while searching for my perfect fragrance. After lots of sampling (and lots of olfactory fatigue!) I became enamored with Terre d'Hermes.

    Unfortunately the bottle I bought from eBay is a counterfeit, and I thought I would post some pictures. I haven't seen pics of fake TdH yet here on basenotes, or anywhere for that matter.

    First off, the perfume itself. Very heavy and offensive alcohol at the top. Drydown is reminiscent of TdH but without the dark moss, which leads me to believe this is real perfume watered down. Longevity is near nonexistent.

    Some pictures.

    The front of the box. A good replica and nearly impossible to tell. The logo is properly embossed. The cardboard itself is slightly glossier than authentic.


    The bottom of the box. Hard to tell it's a fake unless you have a genuine box next to it. Improper wording and most importantly, no serial number printed.


    Inside packaging. Notice the damage at the top.


    The bottle itself. Obvious fake, when I saw this my heart sank. Out of box the fill level was as pictured.


    The screen-printing on the bottle is very fuzzy.




    Closeup.


    No serial number on back bottom right.


    Hermes Paris logo on sprayer is very low quality with no accent over the "e".


    Gold underneath the sprayer, the authentic bottles I've seen have been silver.


    Note: There was originally an image here depicting the underside of the screw-closure with some question about whether it should be orange or brown. A tester I saw was brown, but everybody in this discussion indicated that it should be orange. I can confirm that my new authentic bottle is also orange.

    Anyways, hope this post helps a newbie like me in the future. Of course, it's a lesson in if-it's-too-good-to-be-true... eBay claims they have a strict policy on counterfeits and fakes, so hopefully I'll get a refund out of this.

    And if anybody has a bottle of TdH they are trying to get rid of for a good price, PM me!
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    That blows man....hopefully you'll get your money back.
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    Wow. Sorry about getting duped like that. Counterfeiters are making any and everything it seems. I would have never thought TDH would be faked

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    Quote Originally Posted by PradaG View Post
    Wow. Sorry about getting duped like that. Counterfeiters are making any and everything it seems. I would have never thought TDH would be faked

    same. i came into this thread thinking this was just another paranoid guy. but no. really sorry to see that buddy. hope u get ur money back and it was nothing but a lesson well learned. Personally, i would rather pay the extra 20 bucks or whatever for peace of mind buying it from nordstroms or something like that

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    That sucks! Where did you purchase it? If you share this info, we will avoid the seller.
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    ive seen lot of differences while looking for terre online
    there were boxes with "Pour Homme" and without it and both are legit
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    Maybe it smells better than the authentic, it couldn't smell worse!!

    Just a joke, hope you get your refund.
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    Hope you can recoup your money.

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    Thank you for passing this along. I am sorry for your misfortune. Counterfeiters will go to great lengths to dupe the buyer.
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    panatala, sorry to hear you got ripped off. Apparently they sometimes put dangerous chemicals in fakes which makes it even worse. Please tell us who the seller was and let us know how you go with the refund - both would be very helpfull.

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    Thanks all for the kind words! I have sent a message to the seller and want to wait to see what the response is before I out them. They do not have a past history of selling fragrances, so it is entirely possible that they were not aware of the fakery. (I know, I know, but I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt.)

    If they don't respond or are confrontational I'll certainly update this thread with the seller name!

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    I hate to see this, this is why I avoid eBay for fragrances. I don't care how trusted their are, there's just something about it. I hope the seller at least makes good on their obvious attempt to screw you over.
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    This is a great resource for fake TDH - thanks for posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyLeMale View Post
    same. i came into this thread thinking this was just another paranoid guy. but no.
    Ditto. I was thinking the same thing, but this really does look like a fake compared to my bottle. The lettering looked poor quality and that really jumped out at me; on my bottle, the printing is extremely crisp. Also, the bottom inner contours of most bottles tend to skew slightly to being tilted to one side, but my Terre D'Hermes bottle is pretty even on the bottom inside of the bottle-- the pic you posted shows a bottle that surely would be outside the allowable tolerance for a bottle from Hermes.

    You were right in every regard, except the underside edge of my cap looks orange too-- I don't think it would be brown.

    Wow. Looks like a genuine fake. I would have also thought this bottle would be too complicated to try to reproduce, but I stand corrected.

    Thanks for sharing.

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    Thanks Indie_Guy. I modified the original post to reflect your findings of orange on the bottom of the screw-closure. I checked out a bottle at Nordstrom today and it was brown. Looks like it is not a sure indicator of forgery.

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    I went out and purchased Herve Leger Pour Homme by Avon because people said it was a rip-off of TDH.

    I think it's close, love it and not expensive!

    Just mentioning it in case you are looking for alternatives.
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    Can you easily scratch the letters off the bottle with your fingernails?

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    Great information and photos. Sorry you didn't get the real juice.

    I just sprayed TdH as my scent of the day. Jean-Claude Ellena makes good stuff!

    Just as an aside - what the hell do counterfeiters put into the fake stuff? Any of the fake stuff that you can stumble into online or elsewhere? What kind of stuff do they use as their juice?

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    They could just go to the dollar store and get something remotely similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pantala View Post
    Thanks Indie_Guy. I modified the original post to reflect your findings of orange on the bottom of the screw-closure. I checked out a bottle at Nordstrom today and it was brown. Looks like it is not a sure indicator of forgery.
    Well, it's kind of hard to get a really good look at it because of the angle required to examine it. It definitely looks orange to me-- which would go along with the orange in the TdH color scheme. The ones you saw-- were they a kind of brownish/orange or were they a more definite shade of brown? I'm thinking that it's definitely orange, but could look a bit brown because of certain lighting and being that it's such a small area. I have both the EDT and Parfum and they both look orange to me.

    Another thing about your fake which seems very suspect is the clear spray atomizer tube that descends into the juice and goes all the way to the bottom. Both my 1.6 oz EDT and my 2.5 oz parfum bottles have atomizer tubes that are rather straight compared to the tube in yours. In yours, it appears that the tube was too long and is very bent and contorted in making its way to the bottom of the bottle. It's like they didn't take the time to measure the tube and snip it to the right length but rather stuck a stock one-size-fits-all tube in there and forced it to snake around in the bottle. I could be wrong, but this looks very shoddy to me, and not the way Hermes does things.

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    I have the EDT and EDP and both screw closures are orange for sure...
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    The authentic bottle is just beautiful. One of the best and not the easiest to fake imho.
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    Lesson 1: don't buy something new on ebay unless you know the seller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morrison74 View Post
    I have the EDT and EDP and both screw closures are orange for sure...
    x2, mine are orange too.

    It's pretty obvious you got screwed when you take the bottle out, but the box is VERY close, I'm not sure too many people would recognize the packaging as fake.

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    Hi everybody. A quick update: I filed an eBay Buyer Protection claim against this seller which went unanswered, and finally resulted in the claim awarded in my favor and a refund being issued. Thank you to all who replied, I have no doubt that everybody's opinion here assisted in eBay's investigation, as I sent them this thread and all replies thought this item was counterfeit. I originally was giving the seller the benefit of the doubt and was not going to identify them, but since I got zero messages from them (even before I filed the counterfeit claim), I'll state the seller's ID: shoesandmoreforyou from Willis, Texas.

    I have had at least one other person send me a PM stating that these pictures helped them identify a fake of their own and get a refund through eBay.

    While I was waiting for the investigation to complete I ordered a real bottle of TdH from perfumania.com for only a few dollars more than I paid on eBay. Although I have lots of experience on eBay (member since 1999) I find myself with doubts when browsing listings now! Thanks again everybody. Hope this thread will help others in the future.

    BTW, I was hoping I would be able to take side-by-side photos of the counterfeit and real bottles to add to the thread but one of the eBay Buyer Protection requirements is to send the item back to the seller. (I did consider sending back a box of rocks, just to keep the fake bottle as a novelty! )
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    How unfortunate. I happen to be enjoying TdH as the SOTE tonight. I haven't worn it yet this calendar year and am wondering why that is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indie_Guy View Post
    You were right in every regard, except the underside edge of my cap looks orange too-- I don't think it would be brown.
    Quote Originally Posted by pantala View Post
    Thanks Indie_Guy. I modified the original post to reflect your findings of orange on the bottom of the screw-closure. I checked out a bottle at Nordstrom today and it was brown. Looks like it is not a sure indicator of forgery.
    Quote Originally Posted by Indie_Guy View Post
    I'm thinking that it's definitely orange, but could look a bit brown because of certain lighting and being that it's such a small area. I have both the EDT and Parfum and they both look orange to me.
    Quote Originally Posted by morrison74 View Post
    I have the EDT and EDP and both screw closures are orange for sure...
    Quote Originally Posted by Dorje123 View Post
    x2, mine are orange too.
    I think it's difficult to tell - one person's orange is another person's brown. You really only see it in the reflection on the "mirror" top of the bottle, or to hold the bottle at an angle. The colour in Pantala's photograph looks pretty accurate to me. And I have 3 bottles of the EDT, bought from reliable bricks and mortar retailers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanillaCloud View Post
    Maybe it smells better than the authentic, it couldn't smell worse!!

    Just a joke, hope you get your refund.
    +1 Agreed.. This stuff makes me nauseous LOL!

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    I've removed the image from the original post questioning whether the underside of the closure should be brown or orange. I agree now that it should be orange, at the time I was basing the statement off of a tester I saw at Nordstrom that was brown.

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    I don't have my bottle in front of me, but isn't the "H" shape on the bottom of the genuine bottle colored pale orange as well?

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