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    Quote Originally Posted by rowan- View Post
    To my nose, Rume and P & O are the number one suspects, which is part of why I'm not quite comfortable with either.
    Well, having worn P+O for half a day, it now seems as though I—as well as no less than five people that I have run into today—now love the stuff. Far less pear-in-your-pocket, and more light, sunblock-esque creaminess on this spin—and definitely something coconut-ish happening.

    Kere and Ore are the two that are the most gourmand to me—and I really, really hate overly gourmand scents. But what seems to be happening is that, because of the ways these fragrances are made and the effect they have on your day, even when notes are introduced that are challenging, they're still worthy of the wear. I'm thinking he uses crack as a note.

    This doesn't bode well for my wallet. Not at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rynegne View Post
    CMcG, I really wish I got from Sova, what you do. Personally, it's the only Slumberhouse fragrance that I don't enjoy. My experience is quite different than yours and I've swapped away my bottle as of yesterday actually.
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    I can't recall, but which version did you have? Mine is the new extrait and I didn't get anything animalic out of it. If you also had that one, then I guess it must be skin chemistry and/or differences in our noses...

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    ... I'm thinking he uses crack as a note.
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    I've tried both versions, the bottle I swapped away was the first batch. I've also tried the second wave of Sova extrait as well. I found the extrait to be way too strong on a particular note that I found bothersome, the first batch was a little less harsh. I think it was a combination of the beeswax and castoreum, which just drove me crazy. But, I am not entirely sure those are the particular notes that are driving me nuts as I am not seasoned in picking notes out that I haven't really seen much of (castoreum..possibly.) I really wanted to love this one, without the animalic tones, I would have.

    Quote Originally Posted by CMcG View Post
    I can't recall, but which version did you have? Mine is the new extrait and I didn't get anything animalic out of it. If you also had that one, then I guess it must be skin chemistry and/or differences in our noses...

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    I like the castoreum in Sova. I've said about a million times on various threads that Sova smells like a fragrant barn and the animalic aspect is definitely a part of that perception. I get nothing gourmand in Norne.

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    Tony, I get smoky barnyard as well, a sweet one at that. I really wanted to love it, I jumped on it immediately when it was first released. I appreciate it, but it's not something I enjoy. Also, I get nothing remotely gourmand in Norne either. Mostly, incense, moss and fir. Norne smells like a tree-hugging hippy from the Pacific NW that just got done rolling around in the woods for the day and lit up some incense in his musty room (in a good way )

    Quote Originally Posted by Tonyprince View Post
    I like the castoreum in Sova. I've said about a million times on various threads that Sova smells like a fragrant barn and the animalic aspect is definitely a part of that perception. I get nothing gourmand in Norne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonyprince View Post
    I like the castoreum in Sova. I've said about a million times on various threads that Sova smells like a fragrant barn and the animalic aspect is definitely a part of that perception. I get nothing gourmand in Norne.
    I don't really get much gourmand in Sova personally -- a bit of honey, but mainly hay and booze. Also, if sexy barnyard is your thing, be sure to try MFK's Absolue pour le Soir.

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    Got my Baque, loving this stuff, exactly what I thought Sova would be. Very happy with that one.

    Josh also included Sona and Flou as samples...Flou, well im just going to say it isnt for me and leave it at that. Sona is quite nice has this fizzy fun medicinal vibe to it, probably the lighest slumberhouse I have come across at this point, cpl of hours in though and its become a skin scent. Eitherway interesting ones to explore.

    Alrighty so last on my list is Ore now. Time to start a campaign to get Josh to bring this one back.
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    Sova means Owl in russian and it's a perfect name for a frag. hunter in the dark forest at night ~

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    Today I gave P & O (which to my nose should really be called P & C - Pear & Coconut) its first full wearing in quite a while, and found that I do enjoy it a little more now. It could be that it really does work better in warmer weather (which I'm beginning to discover is also the case with Grev), but equally it could also be that I gave it a proper wearing outdoors this time, as opposed to spritzing it on an arm and sniffing at it obsessively, which doesn't yield terribly interesting results. I must say I'm surprised it didn't come over all sweeeeet, which is what my skin tends to do. And once outdoors, it's a little less pear sitting in my pocket doing nothing and more pear and coconut wafting in and out of my sensory environment. Just that Sova, Norne and Jeke all interest me more.

    Quote Originally Posted by rynegne View Post
    Here's what I get in Sova:
    ... Middle - Smoke, Beeswax and very heavy animalic notes really start to growl (castoreum) *The middle absolutely kills it for me
    I suspect this is why I'm hesitating over Sova extrait - it does get a bit suffocating and I'm still trying to get the application right before I go for a full bottle. Apart from this, I'm getting everything that CMcG described. I didn't have this problem with Sova esprit de parfum - I loved it, but after smelling the extrait, I can pick it out in the esprit de parfum as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by deadidol View Post
    I'm thinking he uses crack as a note.
    I'm thinking so too.
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    I've tried virtually all Slumberhouse frags...including many discontinued ones. My issue is that most have every note turned up full volume. They overwhelm and I tire of them quickly. Norne...great pine but so strong It nauseates after while. Grev...So much clove that it gives me a headache. ...these have every note turned up full blast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Possum-Pie View Post
    I've tried virtually all Slumberhouse frags...including many discontinued ones. My issue is that most have every note turned up full volume. They overwhelm and I tire of them quickly. Norne...great pine but so strong It nauseates after while. Grev...So much clove that it gives me a headache. ...these have every note turned up full blast.
    Yeah, you can't wear them like normal fragrances. It's like Puredistance M (a scent Josh loves) in that 1/2 spray is more than enough, and maybe a little more on especially cold days. Also, reformulations make a difference as he's always tweaking them. Grev, for example, was very clove-y in its first run, but far more tamed down toward the end. To me, though, they're not like, say, a Bond fragrance -- which is just tacky, desperate-loud (all fixative chemicals). These are extrait strength naturals, made with absolutes (so they're higher quality than virtually everything on the market), but you just have to span the juice out a little more than normal. That's what makes them such amazing value for money, too. However, there's no doubt in my mind that they're not for everyone as they are highly avant-garde fragrances, and no one's doing anything like what he's doing. They're not well-suited for people who are into anything safe or "nice" per se--they're more about the aesthetic challenge, and, I'd argue, function best as a personal endeavor rather than "crowd pleasing." For my money, they're pretty much trailblazing modern perfumery right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadidol View Post
    Yeah, you can't wear them like normal fragrances. It's like Puredistance M (a scent Josh loves) in that 1/2 spray is more than enough, and maybe a little more on especially cold days. Also, reformulations make a difference as he's always tweaking them. Grev, for example, was very clove-y in its first run, but far more tamed down toward the end. To me, though, they're not like, say, a Bond fragrance -- which is just tacky, desperate-loud (all fixative chemicals). These are extrait strength naturals, made with absolutes (so they're higher quality than virtually everything on the market), but you just have to span the juice out a little more than normal. That's what makes them such amazing value for money, too. However, there's no doubt in my mind that they're not for everyone as they are highly avant-garde fragrances, and no one's doing anything like what he's doing. They're not well-suited for people who are into anything safe or "nice" per se--they're more about the aesthetic challenge, and, I'd argue, function best as a personal endeavor rather than "crowd pleasing." For my money, they're pretty much trailblazing modern perfumery right now.
    Right...They are NOT an explosion of chemicals like most Bond no 9's...They are definitely natural. I love Avante Garde and wanted desperately to like them. I believe that if I daubed rather than sprayed, and stayed away from anything above the mid chest, I could have worn many of them, especially Norne, I really wanted to like it but too much of a good thing isn't good and the powerful pine got old to my brain after 40 min. I cheer his ability to make a powerhouse projector with longevity, that is my biggest complaint with so many niche houses like Penhaligon's, Heeley, and (most) Creed...nice smell that sits too close to the skin and disappears completely in 3hrs.
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    Interestingly he uses a lot of synthetics, I guess his blending and use of them is what seperates him from the bigger houses where synthetics come off as a chemical explosion. Interesting read here where he discusses that:

    http://notablescents.net/2012/04/27/...-slumberhouse/

    I definitely agree with the sparing sprays makes slumberhouse frags more enjoyable.
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    I never spray Slumberhouse, except for Pear + Olive and Grev. It's simply too powerful for me. Instead I choose to slowly allow the juice to drip from the sprayer by applying light pressure evenly until it comes out. Apply to one wrist then touch my wrists together (not rubbing in) and let air dry. I find this works best for the powerful ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osi1s View Post
    Interestingly he uses a lot of synthetics, I guess his blending and use of them is what seperates him from the bigger houses where synthetics come off as a chemical explosion.
    He has in the past, but his current line-up is primarily absolutes -- Norne and Sova being all absolutes. Also, one of the current prototypes (the coffee/amber thing) is also all absolute to the point where it goes on sticky. From what I understand, he's used chemical replacers in the past (meaning scents that cannot be found in nature). This seems reflective of his slimming down of his line, but also if you read his blog posts, you can see what he's using and how he's moved from synthetics to more natural stuff. You actually don't get as much potency in the older scents as you do in the current line-up of his most recent (2013) extrait versions (2012 Sova vs. 2013 etc.) He's currently recreating two older scents with higher quality materials, so the trajectory seems apparent. It's true that what makes them stand out is the blending, but it's also that he's using extremely difficult to find and high quality materials.

    As much as I love the naturals (for the variance), I'd actually be interested to see what he'd do with a primarily chemical palate, but I can't image that would ever happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadidol View Post
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    As much as I love the naturals (for the variance), I'd actually be interested to see what he'd do with a primarily chemical palate, but I can't image that would ever happen.
    Come to think of it, this variance in the absolutes might account for some of the different perceptions people have of what is ostensibly the same fragrance.

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    My ONLY issue with this fantastic line is that they simply aren't wearable in the typical sense. I would love it if he could explore more diverse options rather than the typical dark routes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noideawhatimsaying View Post
    My ONLY issue with this fantastic line is that they simply aren't wearable in the typical sense. I would love it if he could explore more diverse options rather than the typical dark routes.
    I only find Norne to be dark (which was sort of the concept). Pear+Olive, Vikt, Grev, Kere, Eki are all fairly buoyant. Some are oppressively heavy if you get too much on you -- is that what you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadidol View Post
    I only find Norne to be dark (which was sort of the concept). Pear+Olive, Vikt, Grev, Kere, Eki are all fairly buoyant. Some are oppressively heavy if you get too much on you -- is that what you mean?
    I thought Sova and Jeke were dark as well, though heavy seems to be a more appropriate term.

    I tried Flou and Sana, they did nothing for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noideawhatimsaying View Post
    My ONLY issue with this fantastic line is that they simply aren't wearable in the typical sense. I would love it if he could explore more diverse options rather than the typical dark routes.
    Of the ones that I've tried, I'd say Baque is the most wearable because its take on apricot/bourbon/tobacco/ambre is really quite beautiful and pleasing, but still unique. Jeke's smoky leathery humidor and Sova's spicy sweetness are also wearable, if you go light on the application, though they are a bit more complex and have some notes that might raise an eyebrow. Norne and Kere, however, are further out from what most people would consider perfumery, which I like in Norne's pine forest of incense, but not so much in Kere's medicinal vibe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadidol View Post
    As much as I love the naturals (for the variance), I'd actually be interested to see what he'd do with a primarily chemical palate, but I can't image that would ever happen.
    I wouldn't. I expect the only reason Slumberhouse does work SO well on me is because Josh uses primarily naturals and stays away from The Devil Musk. It's mostly synthetic aromachemicals that go to pieces on my skin as far as I can tell. And yet, unlike most other natural fragrances I've tried, these actually last longer than it takes me to drive to work.

    Don't encourage that kind of thing. There are plenty of perfumers working with synthetics. How many are there creating scents from rare absolutes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CompassRose View Post
    I wouldn't. I expect the only reason Slumberhouse does work SO well on me is because Josh uses primarily naturals and stays away from The Devil Musk. It's mostly synthetic aromachemicals that go to pieces on my skin as far as I can tell. And yet, unlike most other natural fragrances I've tried, these actually last longer than it takes me to drive to work.

    Don't encourage that kind of thing. There are plenty of perfumers working with synthetics. How many are there creating scents from rare absolutes?
    I really like the direction Josh is going, but I also like that he's not basing his brand on being "all-natural perfume," so he has the leeway to go wherever his creativity takes him, which I think is great.

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    I hope he releases a "cold" fragrance, a "frosty" one.

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    I find Grev to be quite cool out of the bunch.

    Quote Originally Posted by noideawhatimsaying View Post
    I hope he releases a "cold" fragrance, a "frosty" one.

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    I hope he releases a "cold" fragrance, a "frosty" one.
    Not me, I like Josh playing to his strengths, namely making thick, resinous fragrances that evoke warmth and do something new and complex with an ingredient that's rather common in modern perfumery.

    So far he's given the Slumberhouse treatment to fruit and booze (Rume), tobacco (Baque & Jeke), wood (Norne), hay (Sova), aoud (Vikt), chocolate (Ore), and soon coffee and amber.
    Imagine if Josh took a run at a dark rose fragrance.....I would think that No. 88 would have to hand over its darkest rose crown and weep.

    I have no doubt that his experimentation will, in time, result in Josh putting out some 'un-Slumberhouse Slumberhouses' and they will be excellent in their own rights, but I'm going to enjoy the current styles over the coming cold months here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timdoeswell View Post
    Not me, I like Josh playing to his strengths, namely making thick, resinous fragrances that evoke warmth and do something new and complex with an ingredient that's rather common in modern perfumery.

    So far he's given the Slumberhouse treatment to fruit and booze (Rume), tobacco (Baque & Jeke), wood (Norne), hay (Sova), aoud (Vikt), chocolate (Ore), and soon coffee and amber.
    Imagine if Josh took a run at a dark rose fragrance.....I would think that No. 88 would have to hand over its darkest rose crown and weep.

    I have no doubt that his experimentation will, in time, result in Josh putting out some 'un-Slumberhouse Slumberhouses' and they will be excellent in their own rights, but I'm going to enjoy the current styles over the coming cold months here.
    Well he did go to Pear & Olive! Honestly, besides Himalaya's cold opening, I haven't seen any other fragrances which evoke a lonesome, desolate winter...and even Himalaya doesn't do that, it's a bright one.

    I'll need to check out Rume. I ordered Sova for a fall fragrance, and love it. Split on Norne/Jeke - don't know where it is wearable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noideawhatimsaying View Post
    Well he did go to Pear & Olive! Honestly, besides Himalaya's cold opening, I haven't seen any other fragrances which evoke a lonesome, desolate winter...and even Himalaya doesn't do that, it's a bright one.

    I'll need to check out Rume. I ordered Sova for a fall fragrance, and love it. Split on Norne/Jeke - don't know where it is wearable?
    Yeah P&O, along with Grev, are the most removed from the rest of the Slumberhouse range.
    It's weird - you'd think that moving away from a group of frags that are so abnormal would move you closer to normalcy, but they remain just as unique as the others from Slumberhouse, just...different.

    I prefer Jeke over Norne (I don't own a bottle of Norne....yet) but then I'm not a huge fan of pine. I think Jeke is more wearable, just because Norne smells stiflingly green.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noideawhatimsaying View Post
    I hope he releases a "cold" fragrance, a "frosty" one.
    Yeah, as mentioned, Grev is chilly. I've developed a new love for it now that the weather's warmer. I had people telling me I smelled like a freshwater stream (it kinda does).
    Quote Originally Posted by CompassRose View Post
    Don't encourage that kind of thing. There are plenty of perfumers working with synthetics. How many are there creating scents from rare absolutes?
    I'm just curious to see what kind of stuff he'd do to be honest. I love the naturals myself, but it's hard to imagine what kind of thing he'd be able to pull of with some of the weirder aroma chemicals that are being produced these days.
    Quote Originally Posted by timdoeswell View Post
    So far he's given the Slumberhouse treatment to fruit and booze (Rume), tobacco (Baque & Jeke), wood (Norne), hay (Sova), aoud (Vikt), chocolate (Ore), and soon coffee and amber.
    Imagine if Josh took a run at a dark rose fragrance.....I would think that No. 88 would have to hand over its darkest rose crown and weep.
    Personally, I'd love to see him do an incense-to-end-all-incenses.
    Quote Originally Posted by noideawhatimsaying View Post
    Split on Norne/Jeke - don't know where it is wearable?
    I wear them all the time to all kinds of places. To me, they're not really about accentuating what I'm wearing or where I'm going, and they're certainly not for getting compliments. When I put this stuff on, it alters the way I approach my day in some form or another. That's something I've never seen done in a fragrance before. Five sprays of Norne before going to the beach might be a problem, but I'd rather stay away from the beach and wear my Norne instead!

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    Quote Originally Posted by noideawhatimsaying View Post
    ... Split on Norne/Jeke - don't know where it is wearable?
    I wore Jeke to the university the other day and got a compliment from a colleague. The combination of leather, tobacco, and smoked tea notes is reminiscent of the archetypal, old school professors lounge... ironically, my university is rather new and doesn't have any places like that :P

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    You and me both. I'd love to see him do a woody, spicy, warm incense fragrance...think 2 Man on steroids. I think Josh would knock it out of the park.

    Quote Originally Posted by deadidol View Post
    Personally, I'd love to see him do an incense-to-end-all-incenses.

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