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    Question Van Cleef & Arpels Tsar: Old formulation vs. New formulation

    No, this is not a thread comparing the two. However, that is my question - I'm wondering if there's any difference between the most recent formulation, in the "original" bottle, and the previous two formulations. I have the most recent version and it smells like a watered down Aramis Havana (although Tsar came first), and the longevity is kinda lame.
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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels Tsar: Old formulation vs. New formulation

    Yes, the longevity is very average to me, but that is fine as Tsar is not one of my favorites anyway. Although a great fragrance nonetheless.

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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels Tsar: Old formulation vs. New formulation

    Quote Originally Posted by kxe003 View Post
    the longevity is very average to me.
    To me also.

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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels Tsar: Old formulation vs. New formulation

    The newest Tsar is okay. I have it and enjoy it, but it is not as long-lasting as the original version, which is closer to Montana's Parfum d'Homme than to Havana, i think. I wonder why the one in the ribbed bottle was even called Tsar! VC&A must have had a tongue-in-cheek moment then.

    As an aside, one way to tell the difference between original and newest verrsions is that the bottle of the new one is actually transparent, and not opaque like the original.
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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels Tsar: Old formulation vs. New formulation

    Quote Originally Posted by perfaddict View Post
    The newest Tsar is okay. I have it and enjoy it, but it is not as long-lasting as the original version, which is closer to Montana's Parfum d'Homme than to Havana, i think. I wonder why the one in the ribbed bottle was even called Tsar! VC&A must have had a tongue-in-cheek moment then.

    As an aside, one way to tell the difference between original and newest verrsions is that the bottle of the new one is actually transparent, and not opaque like the original.
    I agree. Smells great, but not a powerhouse like the original Tsar. I just spray on more, and reapply mid-day. No sweat.
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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels Tsar: Old formulation vs. New formulation

    Dear, I already bought 03 Tsar vintage, and I was disappointed with everyone. The last one I bought even being the same as the first photo did not convince me, I discovered through the research site of the year that it was made in 2008. Then I do not know what else to do! Will I need to find only the TSAR VINTAGE of its release year so I can get all that magic again ?? Please help me!!!

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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels Tsar: Old formulation vs. New formulation

    Funny that this has cropped up as I recently made an error with a purchase of what I believed was a vintage sealed bottle. Turned out to be the clear, ribbed bottle that arrived. At this point I didn't realise that this version was one to avoid so I gave it a try and was confused as it didn't seem to resemble a single review that I had read.

    After a bit of digging and plenty of assistance from a very helpful Basenoter I realised I had the wrong thing - it had an awful curry note going on and as I said, didn't seem to resemble a single review that I had read. To be fair, the person who I bought it off has taken it back but he insisted it was the original formula which I believe to not be the case

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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels Tsar: Old formulation vs. New formulation

    Yeah, unfortunately about a year and a half ago I purchased a bottle on Amazon, expecting the full, rich,scent with high projection and longevity I was accustomed to, only to receive this weak, pissy scent that was not even a pale shadow of the original. Not knowing of the reformulation, I thought that I had received a counterfeit. and contacted Amazon for a refund, which they issued (gotta love Amazon in that regard!).

    Just out of curiosity, I just now googled "original formulation tsar" and found someone (on Amazon!) who claims to have it. Unfortunately, he's asking $145 + $10 shipping, for a bottle I got for $43 at Macy's last time I bought it. I love the scent, really, but not $155 worth for a blind buy from the same source I got burned on last time...

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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels Tsar: Old formulation vs. New formulation

    I've tried the new formulation some time back and thought that it was a milder...sport version. The old formulation was a beast.
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