To me MKK is more wearable because once the first few minutes are over it's not funky at all on me and it's a real unisex (not a femine smelling male/masculine smelling female). MR on the other hand is too feminine for me to feel comfortable with.
Oh, so that's what MKK is. I didn't realise that fragrance was so highly thought of at basenotes! It even has its own acronym.
I really liked the two times that I tried it but ultimately I decided it wasn't worth the price. Might pick it up second hand or on the discounters, but serge noire jumped ahead in the queue.
I have never heard of musc ravageur before today, must seek it out to try. Never seen frederic malle anywhere in the stores, which is crazy when i think about how many stores i've been in the last two months. I must have a specific blindness for it.
I agree that you can often learn to like something you don't immediately like... but if you tried it and didn't like it, maybe its just not the right time. singapore is like a perfume mecca, spend all day testing and get something you love.
Hey Joy, I'm from Singapore and I'm pretty sure I've never seen MKK on the Serge Lutens shelves in town (Absolue pour le Soir is conspicuously missing from the Francis Kurdjian shelves here too). And Frederic Malle--well, I've been waiting for a distributor to pick up his Editions since forever! Are you sure you don't mean Hong Kong? Haha...
I definitely like MR more than MKK. Is there anything that even smells somewhat similar to MR?
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Two totally different fragrances for me. MR is a VERY sweet cinnamon, vanilla fragrance. MKK is a NON sweet, salty musk. I know of course that there great differences on how different people perceive different musks, but to me MKK is far more versatile and wearable.
And a personal opinion: if a musk fragrance does not last forever on your skin, it isn't a musk fragrance. By definition natural musks are have the longest life on skin.
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I own and wear both, both are very good but MKK is the gem.
Musc Ravageur is much more useful and alluring that MKK IMO
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I prefer Ravageur, but i own a bottle of Koublai Khan only! Go figure!!
Even though I love gourmands, I find MKK to thrill me much more than MR. MR is very nice, but I don't find it as inspired, original and clicking as flawlessly all the boxes as MKK.
But I guess the OP will have made his mind about this a long time ago :-)
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Musc Ravageur, hands down!
I have a bottle of MKK but I would prefer to have Musc Ravageur, I think it's easy to wear and I love it, for me smell a little bit like L de Lolita Lempicka but MR is much less sweet than L.
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If I should bought one of them today, I think I would go for MKK because of it`s uniqueness, and because I have other stuff that reminds me a bit of MR.
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RANT BEGINS I concur absolutely with the people here who warn against getting the vapours over something as inoffensive as MKK. I am in my first year of getting into perfume in a seriously appreciative way, inspired obliquely by my work as a sensory panelist for a local university- my ability to detect and characterize aroma chemicals is pretty freaking good, so from a purely receptor-type point of view I'd like to clear something up. MKK does not smell like shit. At all. Not even vaguely. People who talk about poo in relation to musk are either gifted with the world's plushest arseholes or have a civet stuck in their toilet cisterns. A really BIG angry civet. And if you squeal and faint at the slightest suggestion of animalic I would question why you would be applying something like MKK to your epidermis. And then going ewwww! RANT ENDS.
Anyways, MKK is just pretty in a unisex way. I don't find it particularly complex; to me, it bends slightly with skin gender but many will not be able to appreciate this; from a synaesthetic POV I get a big pale gasseous image the colour of clover honey with round, suede like corners and an almost germ-like darker area so that it looks like an out of focus plant cell under a microscope. It is sweet and high as much as it is low and dark; people overemphasize this latter character- Im not sure why.
My mother likes it and she doesn't know jack shit about scent, so that's an honest, hype-free opinion from someone unaware of the mythos. No fainting, no nose-holding, just 'pretty'. Which it is. Don't expect beast, unless your experience of other animals is limited to patting someone else's dog fresh from the groomer. Strangely enough, that kind of smell is much more in line with MKK than dirty sweat, sex, cumin-freakout etc etc. Hope that helps.
I'm with Kellyjelly and everyone else who find MKK the smoothest and most wearable of the two. I remember it in Tangs. Apart from the locations metioned by the Duke, don't forget Takashimaya. Tried my first Penhaligons there.
Two very different scents. I own and love both, but if I absolutely had to pick just one, I'd go for MR.
I'd say that MR starts feminine and then it gets more butch. Someone once described it as a hip version of Shalimar. It's wearable for men but, imho, far better smelling on women.
MKK is Tarzan and Jane doing the wild thing atop their jungle tree house. (And I hope I never suggested Cheetah for a menage a trois)
Less versatile than MR--
--Has anyone EVER suggested MKK for officewear??
But it gets my vote.
MKK is offensive to me. Disgusting and offensive. I've tried it at home several times, and my opinion remains that it is a disgusting body odor smell that I neither want to smell like nor smell on others. And the few women I've dated who smelled it on me uniformly agreed it was horrific.
MR is on the borderline between mildly offensive and grand. It doesn't smell anything like MKK, and was offputting to me for quite a while because of its vagely pee scent; but in the end I like it quite a bit. For what it's worth,of the women I've dated who smelled it on me, half seemed to love it and half seemed to hate it. No opinions in the middle.
Current Top Five:
1. Creed Green Irish Tweed
2. Tom Ford Neroli Portofino
3. Hermes Concentre d'Orange Verte
4. Bond No. 9 New Haarlem
5. Creed Original Vetiver
Once you get past the opening on Musc Ravageur women will fall all over themselves just to get a whiff of you. If that was not enough it smells pretty darn good to boot.
My current top ten:
1. Oud Wood
2. Spice and Wood
4. Pure Malt
5. Tonka Imperial
6. Dior Homme
7. Epic Man
8. L'air Du Desert Marocain
9. Noir de Noir
10. Terre D'Hermes
So what's the score? I'm just guessing, is MR ahead by a 'nose'. Sorry about that, its horse racing season here.