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    Default Recommend classic decants for educating a newbie about fragrance

    Reading the sticky in the Resource Archive about Fragrance Families , I still have questions.


    As a starting point for educating myself in fragrances I would like to assemble a basic "education pack" of decants. One decant from each of the major fragrance groups ---- aquatic , fougere, oud, gourmand , citrus , sandalwood , leather , tobacco , rose , etc .

    (1) What basic fragrance groups should be included ?

    (2) What fragrance in each group would be most representative of the entire group ?
    (I assume this would lean toward classic fragrances rather than newer fragrances)


    The short term goal in smelling the decants is to determine the one or two groups which are personally most pleasing , then the later long term goal is to explore more deeply into this subset of groups with later education packs, perhaps "vetiver education pack", or "oud education pack", etc.

    Organizing the groups as simply as possible as a starting point , I would assume aquatic and citrus could be placed together into a broader group (perhaps "light , fresh , youthful") while leather and tobacco could be placed together into another broader group (perhaps "heavy , serious , mature"). The main point is to begin as widely opposed as possible so a new nose can easily notice the difference then with experience later explore the subdivisions within a personally favored group.

    Reading the sticky in the Resource Archive about Fragrance Families provides an extensive chart divided into three main categories as Fougere , Oriental , and Chypre then additional subdivisions but as a new nose I wonder why "Fresh" is a subdivision within both Fougere and Chypre --- and one fresh group is on the far left (e.g. Cool Water) and the other fresh is on the far right (e.g. Acqua Di Gio), nearly the widest difference on the chart.

    The chart might be a good reference for an experienced nose but a more basic education would be appreciated as a starting point for a new nose.

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    Default Re: Recommend classic decants for educating a newbie about fragrance

    I think the four seasons is a good point to start the subdivisions:

    Fall:

    Winter:

    Summer:

    Spring:

    What do you think?

    When you call help for a specific season, you will get about the same families from about all recommendations (citrus, aquatic, fougere for summer, gourmand, oud for winter, floral and soapy for spring, oriental for fall, etc)

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    Default Re: Recommend classic decants for educating a newbie about fragrance

    From one newbie to another -- this doesn't answer your questions, but -- have you checked out The Perfumed Court? They have LOTS of sampler packs similar to what you're talking about, and you could also build your own using the info they have. I've also found them helpful and responsive to questions.

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    I'll be watching this thread to see what suggestions you get, as I like your idea and might end up doing something similar.

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    Default Re: Recommend classic decants for educating a newbie about fragrance

    Hi there. Basically what you are asking is what I have been doing. You might want to read my thread "New Member Continuation". Below is a quote taken from that thread. It is a list I made up of what could be called "reference scents". Have a read!
    _______________________

    Here's an updated Listing of what might be called "Luca Turin's Reference Fragrances". I'd made a first effort above, but this is a bit more comprehensive, with some "minor" scents added. All taken from FRAGRANCES - the A-Z Guide [2009]. Name in parentheses is the maker; name after the slash is parfumer if known. All of these fragrances received either 4 stars or 5 stars in their rating system. The two word blurbs in italics are Turin's descriptors.

    REFERENCE SCENTS - ala LUCA TURIN
    March 2011

    Reference Rose
    Rive Gauche (YSL) reference rose
    1876 (Histoire de Parfums) masculine rose

    Reference Vetiver
    Vetiver (Guerlain) reference vetiver
    Vetiver Extraordinaire (Frederic Malle) angular vetiver

    Reference Chypre
    Mitsouko (Guerlain) reference chypre
    1000 (Jean Patou) dry chypre

    Reference Oriental
    Shalimar (Guerlain) reference oriental

    Reference Leathers
    Cuir de Russie (Chanel) leather luxury
    Knize Ten (Knize) amber leather
    1740 (Histoire de Parfum) leather immortelle
    Cuir (Lancôme) woody leather

    Reference Fougere
    Or Black (Pascal Morabito) dark fougere
    Rive Gauche pour Homme (YSL) brilliant fougere

    Reference Gardenia
    Velvet Gardenia (Tom Ford) real gardenia
    Private Collection Tuberose Gardenia (Estee Lauder) real gardenia too

    Reference Lavender
    Lavender (Caldey Island) perfect lavender

    Reference Iris
    28 La Pausa (Chanel) wood iris
    Iris Silver Mist (Serge Lutens) iris root

    Reference Amber
    Ambre Russe (Parfum d’Empire/Marc-Antoine Corticchiato) huge amber
    Ambre Soie (Armani Prive/Christine Nagel) rich amber

    Reference Jasmine
    Donna Karan Essence Jasmine (D. Karan) jasmine jasmine

    Reference Sandalwood
    Bois des Iles (Chanel/Ernest Beaux) sandalwood oriental

    Reference Violet
    Aimez Moi (Caron) violet vanilla

    Reference Nutmeg
    1828 (Histoires de Parfums) nutmeg wood

    Reference Cedar
    Cedre Blanc (Heeley) fresh cedar
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    Default Re: Recommend classic decants for educating a newbie about fragrance

    Thanks for replies so far.

    Is there a reference scent for Vanilla ? Tobacco ? Citrus ?

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    Default Re: Recommend classic decants for educating a newbie about fragrance

    Thanks for that saintpaulia

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    Default Re: Recommend classic decants for educating a newbie about fragrance

    Quote Originally Posted by Saintpaulia View Post
    Hi there. Basically what you are asking is what I have been doing. You might want to read my thread "New Member Continuation". Below is a quote taken from that thread. It is a list I made up of what could be called "reference scents". Have a read!
    _______________________

    Here's an updated Listing of what might be called "Luca Turin's Reference Fragrances". I'd made a first effort above, but this is a bit more comprehensive, with some "minor" scents added. All taken from FRAGRANCES - the A-Z Guide [2009]. Name in parentheses is the maker; name after the slash is parfumer if known. All of these fragrances received either 4 stars or 5 stars in their rating system. The two word blurbs in italics are Turin's descriptors.

    REFERENCE SCENTS - ala LUCA TURIN
    March 2011

    Reference Rose
    Rive Gauche (YSL) reference rose
    1876 (Histoire de Parfums) masculine rose

    Reference Vetiver
    Vetiver (Guerlain) reference vetiver
    Vetiver Extraordinaire (Frederic Malle) angular vetiver

    Reference Chypre
    Mitsouko (Guerlain) reference chypre
    1000 (Jean Patou) dry chypre

    Reference Oriental
    Shalimar (Guerlain) reference oriental

    Reference Leathers
    Cuir de Russie (Chanel) leather luxury
    Knize Ten (Knize) amber leather
    1740 (Histoire de Parfum) leather immortelle
    Cuir (Lancôme) woody leather

    Reference Fougere
    Or Black (Pascal Morabito) dark fougere
    Rive Gauche pour Homme (YSL) brilliant fougere

    Reference Gardenia
    Velvet Gardenia (Tom Ford) real gardenia
    Private Collection Tuberose Gardenia (Estee Lauder) real gardenia too

    Reference Lavender
    Lavender (Caldey Island) perfect lavender

    Reference Iris
    28 La Pausa (Chanel) wood iris
    Iris Silver Mist (Serge Lutens) iris root

    Reference Amber
    Ambre Russe (Parfum d’Empire/Marc-Antoine Corticchiato) huge amber
    Ambre Soie (Armani Prive/Christine Nagel) rich amber

    Reference Jasmine
    Donna Karan Essence Jasmine (D. Karan) jasmine jasmine

    Reference Sandalwood
    Bois des Iles (Chanel/Ernest Beaux) sandalwood oriental

    Reference Violet
    Aimez Moi (Caron) violet vanilla

    Reference Nutmeg
    1828 (Histoires de Parfums) nutmeg wood

    Reference Cedar
    Cedre Blanc (Heeley) fresh cedar
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