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    Default Re: Why all the hate for Unforgivable by Sean John?

    Quote Originally Posted by neo_angel View Post
    it is a way to call it , com'on don'tBe so serious aBout it, ease off
    yeah people call pantie dropper to the scents that gets a lot of female attention

    i aint even gonna lie i gotta a lot of game
    and im the Best to know that the fragrance a person wears
    it hardly influences the attraction of a woman
    But it can Be a point playing to a men's favor
    when she feels already attracted.

    so when i say girls want to Be around me all night at the cluB just for how i smell
    im talking aBout that Being kind of an excuse of them to keep hanging around with me all night

    asking... yeah sure.

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    Default Re: Why all the hate for Unforgivable by Sean John?

    The only thing wrong with it is the scent. Other than that, it's fine.

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    Default Re: Why all the hate for Unforgivable by Sean John?

    I personally don't mind Unforgivable at all... Very Pleasant for the price you can pick it up for (around 15 for 75ml on the Bay here in the UK).

    What I do think is 'unforgivable' is how Creed can charge what they do for something that barely lasts more than 3 hours... And people actually delude themselves into believing that it's ok... I understand the natural ingredients and higher quality argument but let's be honest; if it wasn't Creed making MI, I couldnt see people rushing out to buy a $150+ scent that barely lasts 3-4 hours..

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    Wear it if you like it. I walked behind a young white guy today at the shopping mall Siam Paragon in Bangkok and he smelled so good.

    He was wearing...Acqua di Gio
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    Default Re: Why all the hate for Unforgivable by Sean John?

    I'm pretty open-minded about fragrances, but I'm obviously kind of marketing brainwashed, because every time I try a celebrity-branded scent I can't get the celebrity's image out of my head. So sure, Unforgivable might be a good fragrance, but I just don't want Sean Jean's image in my head while I'm wearing it. Not too keen on being Tim McGraw or Justin Timberlake for a day either. I'm sure all these guys are swell chaps - it's just an image association I'm not interested in. Probably wouldn't wear Vintage Tabarome if it were branded "Britney Spears," though that is an amusing concept.

    That stated, I get a little thrill out of the idea that Green Irish Tweed might be Cary Grant's personal fragrance. Vintage Tabarome worn by Winston Churchill? OK, I'm in.

    So superficial, I know. No apologies, either. It's just my personal indulgence in modern marketing techniques.

    Overall, the whole mania for celebrity-branded fragrances seems to be directly pitched to the People/In-Style/TMZ crowd. Ick. Can't go there.

    Furthermore: I suspect Sean Jean, Tim McGraw, Justin Timberlake, and Britney Spears have no interest in smelling like me, either. So there.
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    Default Re: Why all the hate for Unforgivable by Sean John?

    i actually like this scent. i find it just smells great. Very luxurious. Who cares if he ripped of Creed... all in all it still smells epic. and i get loads of compliments very good stuff

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    Default Re: Why all the hate for Unforgivable by Sean John?

    Unforgivable smells like a bowl of rotten fruit in the heart and drydown. I actually enjoy the opening, but it doesn't take long for it to turn sour. I am King I liked much better with the berry notes. Both of them lasts as long as a good farting session.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoSheedah View Post
    I personally don't mind Unforgivable at all... Very Pleasant for the price you can pick it up for (around 15 for 75ml on the Bay here in the UK).

    What I do think is 'unforgivable' is how Creed can charge what they do for something that barely lasts more than 3 hours... And people actually delude themselves into believing that it's ok... I understand the natural ingredients and higher quality argument but let's be honest; if it wasn't Creed making MI, I couldnt see people rushing out to buy a $150+ scent that barely lasts 3-4 hours..
    This!!! I have nothing against Creed I just refuse to pay that kinda money for a fragrance that barely lasts. If Unforgivable is $60 and MI is $150 and they smell very similar. My choice is easy. Same is GIT and Cool Water. Ive tried both they are almost identical. my wife couldnt tell one from the other. Im very open minded with fragrances. I dont care who makes it or what name its associated with. All I care about is the juice in the bottle. I cant stand Lebron James but if came out with a cologne that smelled great with good longevity I'd try it.
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    Default Re: Why all the hate for Unforgivable by Sean John?

    I seriously doubt if Sean John had anything at all to do with the actual crafting of any scent that bears his name, other than a 'Hey! I like that! Yeah!". I am betting his role is to make them visible and collect big money for doing so.
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    I hate Unforgivable cause its a pimp-gangsta scent. Well, I mean, where I live, almost all the 17-25 black gangsta wear this. And there is soooo many gangsta o "wanabe gangsta" here. So each time I smell this one I just see a gangsta in my mind and I hate that...

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    Default Re: Why all the hate for Unforgivable by Sean John?

    Quote Originally Posted by kbe View Post
    I seriously doubt if Sean John had anything at all to do with the actual crafting of any scent that bears his name, other than a 'Hey! I like that! Yeah!". I am betting his role is to make them visible and collect big money for doing so.
    I researched this question fairly deeply, because I was curious as hell. You're right - if a celebrity or celebrity designer is involved, it's basically as a one-person focus group. However, in Diddy's case - on Unforgivable - he claims that he sniffed over 600 samples to get to the one he wanted. For what it's worth. I know that Burr thought SJP's involvement on Lovely was atypically large for a celeb, and I don't think she sniffed nearly that much.

    Of course, that's not the biggest thing Diddy brings to the brand. That would be image - the cool guy draped with booty. Like you say - being visible.
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    Default Re: Why all the hate for Unforgivable by Sean John?

    Why all the love for Millesime Imperial and Green Irish Tweed? I can't stand either of them and certainly don't believe a word of Creed's particular brand of made-up dead celebrity endorsement. Easier to have someone long-dead "endorse" your fragrance, I guess. If they're dead they can't tell you they never wore it because it didn't exist yet.

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    I agree with those that say Unforgettable is very close to MI in scent.
    Choose Unforgettable if cost is a factor and enjoy wearing it. Sean John did a good job with this one

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    I dislike MI, so my hate comes from the original source for this clone.

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    To get back to the original question:

    I think you need to keep in mind that Millesime Imperial is one of the most reviewed, most tried scents for basenotes members -- it's among the most-reviewed scents ever. Unforgivable is not a bad scent, but almost all of the negative reviews that I've read start off with the same premise: that it's a copy of MI, and not a particularly good one. Naturally, it suffers in comparison for most people, which results in the bad reviews; but Unforgivable is, frankly, really not all that bad (and MI is currently my signature scent).

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    I don't care if you want to copy a Creed (Millesime Imperiale in this case) but when you charge 60-70 bucks a bottle for 100ml of it when I could get a nice D&G Light Blue or Givenchy Pi for that, then you're taking the piss. Diddy still lives in the delusion that his 90's chic brand still has cache; he's sorely mistaken. Wouldn't pay more than 30 for this "homage to Millesime Imperiale." Come to think of it, since I own Creed's MI, I probably wouldn't get this stuff at all.

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    Default Re: Why all the hate for Unforgivable by Sean John?

    Quote Originally Posted by Delicious Scent View Post
    I put on this stuff yesterday and it smelled good to me, I felt like biting myself as odd as that sounds. It's expensive, but it smells very good from the sample I tried yesterday. Maybe it's because of my age group? I'm 17 but I'm not sure, it smells heavenly to me. I think I'm going to order it alongside Rochas Men.
    It's a bit pricy for what you get, but it's not bad. Love and Luck is very similar to Unforgivable, except it is less expensive, and better in my opinion.

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    Default Re: Why all the hate for Unforgivable by Sean John?

    Quote Originally Posted by lionheart View Post
    To be perfectly honest, I would never try it because there is a REAL disconnect that I would be wearing a fragrance represented by Puff Daddy or Pee Ditty (sp?) or whatever. I want the name (and sometimes even the face) behind the frag to exude real sophistication and elegance. This is the same reason why I won't try Givenchy Play: Justin Timberlake. Nothing against either man's talent.

    I know that many of you think it should be solely about the fragrance. That's fair, and I respect everyone's opinions. Further, Unforgivable may be a LOVELY scent. It boils down to what fragrances "do" for each of us. For me, it smells the way I want it to smell, and it says about me what I want it to say. And in my humble opinion, the celebrities are part of that.

    Again, this is just me.
    Diddy is about as successful (as a rapper and businessman), sophisticated, professional and envied as anyone I would think.

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    Default Re: Why all the hate for Unforgivable by Sean John?

    I like it. Nothing WOW, but it's a good scent.

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    I like it. Nothing WOW, but it's a good scent.

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    These celebrity scents really surprise me. I sniff them expecting them to be below average obviously. But a lot of the time they are damn good. I smelled Usher UR for the first time a few days ago and i just didnt understand how scents like these never get talked about. I really liked it. I like unforgivable too but it gets talked about a lot as it is compared to Creed's Millesime Imperial.

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    I bought this one a few years ago before I started to become a fragrance nut and I bought it because of a paper sample in a mens magazine . My thoughts on it have not really changed much... it is still a nice fragrance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neo_angel View Post
    it is a way to call it , com'on don'tBe so serious aBout it, ease off
    yeah people call pantie dropper to the scents that gets a lot of female attention

    i aint even gonna lie i gotta a lot of game
    and im the Best to know that the fragrance a person wears
    it hardly influences the attraction of a woman
    But it can Be a point playing to a men's favor
    when she feels already attracted.

    so when i say girls want to Be around me all night at the cluB just for how i smell
    im talking aBout that Being kind of an excuse of them to keep hanging around with me all night

    asking... yeah sure.

    ok there's your response

    i didnt make the rules, i just play the game

    But its ok, i know people sometimes takes advantage
    of this kind of posts to show how "mature" persons they are
    and how different from the rest they are
    lol

    and By the way the kind of women im talkin aBout
    they are very Beautyfull, atlethic, cultured, intelligent, nice ones

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    Default Re: Why all the hate for Unforgivable by Sean John?

    Guys I am selling SJ Unforgivable 75ml (85%-90%full) for $30 shipped Canada and CONUS.

    Comes with plastic holder but no box.

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    Default Re: Why all the hate for Unforgivable by Sean John?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pipsta View Post
    I can appreciate a person like p did creating a copy of an expensive cologne that he likes so the less financially inclined portion of his fanbase can share in it in some respect(and him make some change) but I don't like MI so therefore I don't like Unfo...
    Now hold on a second. You don't really believe Sean Combs created any of the scents that use his name, do you?

    Here's how it works: His agent receives a call with a business proposal to use his name and star power on a fragrance in exchange for a dollar figure or percentage of revenue (or a combination of both). Either that, or he decided to get into the perfume business and his people hired people to create a scent that his business interests could market.

    I am quite sure than the average basenotes member knows more about perfume than Puff Daddy P Diddy or whatever he is calling himself this week. When Multi Platinum was released, he was on Jay Leno explaining that it was the same scent as Unforgivable, but with higher quality ingredients.

    He's a successful businessman. But a perfumer? Please.

    Unforgivable "Multi Platinum" wasn't bad. I used to own it. I traded it when I realized I never wore it anymore.
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    I don't respect Puffy as a person so I wouldn't wear his fragrances even if they were given to me for free. I know that sounds ignorant but that is just how I feel.

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    I personally like it. As with anything, there is always going to be a lot of hype and hate towards certain items over the most trivial things. As long as you like it, rock the ever loving piss out of it.

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    One of my favorites. I love it from top to base. Only wish it was a little stronger at the end.

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    Default Re: Why all the hate for Unforgivable by Sean John?

    unforgiveable is pretty good. it's just that love and luck by ed hardy is better at what it tries to do.

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    Unforgivable is linear and not particularly pleasant, but Unforgivable Multi Platinum was a quality product that smelled great.

    At least, that was my experience a few years ago.

    I wonder, now that UMP is discontinued, whether Unforgivable's formula is the same, or if it changed to be a little closer to UMP. I haven't smelled it in a while, but there are a lot of people that seem to like it. Or perhaps they're thinking of UMP -- some people don't seem to understand there were two scents.
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    Default Re: Why all the hate for Unforgivable by Sean John?

    Which scent category would this fall into (ex. spice, oriental, aquatic, etc.).

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