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    Smile Wooznib's 3 Original Perfumes Testing Discussion Thread

    This new thread is for posting our impressions and discussing the perfumes.
    Anyone who has tried them is welcome to post their impressions.


    Wooznib mailed all the samples, domestic and foreign, today, May 28.

    Post #2 shows the mailing order.

    You may wish to subscribe to this thread using the Thread Tools drop-down menu in the gray bar above the posts on this page. Or bookmark it, so it's easy to find when you are ready to post.

    I have messaged each of you with the address of the person you will ship to when you are done testing.
    Please jot that address down somewhere off Basenotes, in case this site happens to be down when you are ready to mail the samples.

    The original sign-up thread is now obsolete. This thread takes its place, but here is the link to the old thread if anyone wants to read it :
    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/277...-s-own-wooznib!)


    Reiterating the essentials:

    Our fellow Basenoter wooznib created 3 perfumes that are now being tested and reviewed by 40 volunteers:

    • Souk
    Top: Allspice, Cinnamon, Nutmeg, Coriander
    Mid: Frankincense, Geranium, Ambrette seed, Jasmine, Honey
    Base: Sandalwood, Vanilla, Labdanum, Myrrh

    • Sikar
    Top - Cognac, Naiouli, Coriander
    Mid: Rose Absolute, Allspice, Cacao Absolute
    Base: Spikenard, Cedar, Benzoin, Tobacco Absolute

    • Cathedral in Flames
    Top: Ginger, Lemon, Spruce, Rosemary
    Mid: Carnation Absolute, Frankincense, Sage
    Base: Atlas cedar, Moroccan Neroli Absolute, Labdanum, Tonka Bean


    A few simple rules:
    1. Test the perfumes for up to 2 weeks. The atomizers have enough juice for 6 sprays for each member. Please be considerate and do not keep them longer than 2 weeks-- others will be waiting to test them too!

    2. Post your impressions.
    In all our previous sampling groups we have made reviews optional, but wooznib really needs and wants honest feedback.

    3. Please either message me or post when you receive and when you mail the package, so I can keep Post #2 current.
    Kindly use delivery confirmation when shipping to the next US member. For international packages, just mail First Class but hang onto your customs form; the number on it is somewhat trackable.

    4. Final member of each group keeps the atomizer samples. International members receiving their own sample set of glass vials will also keep their samples.



    Enjoy!
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    Default Re: Wooznib's 3 Original Perfumes Testing Discussion Thread

    Mailing order:

    (The asterisk shows who has the samples, or to whom they have been mailed. This will be updated as people tell me they have shipped or received the samples.)

    Edit 8/2/11: Everyone has now received the samples.

    10 original groups:

    Group 1:
    1. Twolf-- received samples
    2. PerfumedLady-- received samples
    *3. Volley2 (China)-- received samples

    Group 2:
    1. Kiliwia-- received samples
    2. debbborra-- received the samples
    *3. joelarner (U.K.)-- received samples
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    Group 3:
    1. iechris-- received samples
    2. SoGent-- received samples
    *3. Larimar (Austria)-- received samples

    Group 4:
    1. matildaben-- received samples
    2. Warum-- received samples/ mailed them
    *3. FrouFrou (Texas address) received samples

    Group 5:
    1. DustB -- delivery confirmation shows received/ no comment from member
    2. bookwyrmsmith-- received replacement set of samples direct from wooznib
    *3. kasae (Canada)-- received samples

    Group 6:
    1. Smells_Familiar -- received samples
    2. dorje123-- was sent a replacement set of samples from wooznib/received them*
    *3. trex57 (Canada)- received samples

    Group 7:
    1. cocogirl -- received samples
    2. Mr_Castro-- received samples
    *3. ironduke (South Korea)-- received samples

    Group 8:
    1. Zibeline -- received samples
    2. Buzzlepuff-- received samples/mailed them
    *3. Klute (Germany)

    Group 9:
    1. daccpa-- received samples
    2 chaplain -received samples
    *3. socalwoman (USA)-- received samples

    Group 10:
    *darkdreams (USA but needs to receive late, in July)


    Additional international members receiving their own sample sets to keep:

    *1. anotherlemontree-- replied that she received them
    *2. bshell-- received samples
    *3. melodyjayne-- received samples
    *4. laph -- received samples
    *5. Pollux-- received samples
    *6. Dr. Rudi-- received samples
    *7. The Grifter-- replied that he received the samples
    *8. zliang-- received samples
    *9. don03-- replied that he received the samples
    *10. the_good_life-- received samples
    *11. fullbuster -- received samples
    *12. d4N13L-- received samples

    Edit 8/2/11: Everyone has now received the samples.
    Last edited by 30 Roses; 2nd August 2011 at 08:05 PM. Reason: updates



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    Default Re: Wooznib's 3 Original Perfumes Testing Discussion Thread

    Apart from the group, I have all three as well - through a mutual friendship/partnership.
    ďI have stretched ropes from steeple to steeple; garlands from window to window; golden chains from star to star, and I dance.Ē - Rimbaud

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    Default Re: Wooznib's 3 Original Perfumes Testing Discussion Thread

    Your reviews will be welcome here!



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    I've already sampled and made notes on all three. Here's the feedback I gave Wooznib (I'm not the best at deciphering notes, so I may have been a little off with my guesses):

    Cathedral in Flames

    First impressions: frankincense, ginger (and also I think tobacco, cedarwood, citrus, patchouli and labdanum? Iíd be interested to see a full notes list). Lovely top notes. Has quite a ďdeepĒ feel to it: feels quite complex and textured. Itís quite spicy, though I canít pin down which particular spices apart from ginger. The spices, together with the frankincense, give it a Middle-Eastern feel, in a way that reminds me of Arabie and Mecca Balsam. The sillageís presence is a bit subtle, possibly due to a high proportion of natural ingredients. There is a slightly leathery feel to it, though I donít think that leather is actually present as an accord. Thereís also a slightly soapy feel at times, though Iím not sure what to attribute this to in terms of notes.

    I didnít perceive much in terms of structure; itís fairly linear, going on strong at first and then slowly fading away. I donít mean this as a criticism Ė I donít mind fragrances that behave like this Ė Iím just noting it as a description. Iím curious as to whether this linear structure is also due to a high proportion of natural ingredients.

    Iím not sure itís full-bottle worthy for me personally, but I can definitely see people paying money for this. Overall, Iím really impressed Ė congratulations, Jimmy, good work!

    Souk

    First impressions: frankincense, cinnamon, amber, vanilla. Again, lovely top notes. Reminds me quite a bit of Ambre Sultan; it also seems to share some notes with Cathedral in Flames. Itís quite spicy, although apart from cinnamon Iím not sure which spices. Whereas the spices in Cathedral in Flames brought to mind a Middle-Eastern outdoor market (in a similar way to Arabie), the spices in Souk have quite a different feel Ė almost more domestic and culinary. Overall, itís quite a bit sweeter than Cathedral in Flames Ė I think the vanillaís responsible for this. It smells like thereís quite a bit of high-quality vanilla in there Ė it reminds me of some really nice vanilla extract Iíve got in my kitchen. It seems to have more sillage than Cathedral in Flames.

    I rate this as being on a similar level to Cathedral in Flames. If pushed, I think I might say I slightly prefer Cathedral in Flames. Nevertheless, well done again.

    Sikar

    First impressions: sweet, fruity and spicy notes in the top notes; later on the fruit and spicy notes drop away and the scent gets sweeter (Iím pretty sure I smell chocolate, but apart from that Iím not able to definitely identify the notes, and would be very interested to know what the ingredients are). It does remind me slightly of Turkish Delight or Baklava, and obviously comes from the same sort of world as Souk and Cathedral in Flames in having the same kind of Middle-Eastern vibe to it. The top notes donít have the same kind of impact as those of Souk and Cathedral in Flames, both of which impressed me positively immediately, though I think it becomes more enjoyable as it progresses and gets sweeter. Iím not much of a gourmand fan, so this isnít the kind of thing I normally wear, but I liked it once it got through to the midnotes. It strikes me as more feminine than masculine, though not definitively so, if I had to characterize it in those terms (I would say Souk and Cathedral in Flames are both unisex).

    Overall, I think this is probably my least favourite out of the three, partly because the top notes arenít as impressive, and partly because itís not really my kind of scent. Nevertheless, thereís definitely some quality stuff in there, so well done again.

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    Default Re: Wooznib's 3 Original Perfumes Testing Discussion Thread

    It does not matter whether you are able to disect the notes or not so very well, your reviews are fabulous -- that's what we need most. Very often I read reviews here in the Directory and can't find the answer to the essential question "What does Fragrance Y smell like?" Personally, I appreciate comparisons and general impressions, like "domestic and culinary".

    Thank you, WillC.

    Not to hi-jack the thread: If you would like to go through the bootcamp of notes' perception, please let me know, we can arrange for that through your participation in one of the Blind Sniffs. Everybody else, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twolf View Post
    It does not matter whether you are able to disect the notes or not so very well, your reviews are fabulous -- that's what we need most. Very often I read reviews here in the Directory and can't find the answer to the essential question "What does Fragrance Y smell like?" Personally, I appreciate comparisons and general impressions, like "domestic and culinary".

    Thank you, WillC.

    Not to hi-jack the thread: If you would like to go through the bootcamp of notes' perception, please let me know, we can arrange for that through your participation in one of the Blind Sniffs. Everybody else, too.
    Thanks for your kind words. I'll have a think about the Blind Sniff.
    Click to view my swap thread (L'Occitane and Tam Dao products going):

    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/277...mp-body-lotion

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    Default Re: Wooznib's 3 Original Perfumes Testing Discussion Thread

    Here is a link to the thread on DIY where some of us originally tested wooznib's samples; I later messaged him with our detailed impressions, but I will retest all 3 before posting:

    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/267...is-wonderful.?



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    Received my three samples in the mail today. I tried Souk first as I recently tried another fragrance of the same name in another sampling thread.

    This Souk is quite dramatic. The Incense is bold as are the spices. I would agree that the vanilla and amber are pumping a lot of sweetness into this one but I find that appealing and the incense prevents the scent from being particularly kitchen-y to me. In fact I would venture to say that this incense is powerful enough (but not bitter or burnt) to actually need a bit of taming as the opening is so powerful to my nose. The spices smell natural and there is no overtly chemical vibe. The incense is listed as a middle note, but I seemed to get it right away and could only sense the cinnamon and allspice a few minutes later. I do not smell the coriander and am still waiting for the honey, but that's ok

    Souk is a strong fragrance, definitely more masculine than feminine, but that would not stop me from wearing it! I can always be counted on to wear frankincense and myrrh type scents

    Beautiful floral free oriental! If I did not see jasmine in the notes I would not be able to tease it out.
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    Default Re: Wooznib's 3 Original Perfumes Testing Discussion Thread

    I've also begun editing post #2 to show who has received their samples.



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    Cathedral in Flames.

    First off I am not wild about the name, a bit sensational IMO, and not really a good descriptor for this scent.

    The opening is citrusy and green in an herbal sort of way that I like a lot. Ginger and lemon are nice summery notes and I have always found sage to be underutilized, at least in women's scents...but again this is a guy thing, though more obviously unisex than Souk. The incense here is milder and the scent stays green on me and a bit bright because of the cedar I guess. I don't get cathedrals and flames but maybe a country church with a patch of clove pinks and an herb garden near the rectory. ;-)

    This one would be much more at home in an office that Souk would be and the sillage is more modest too. It wears close.

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    I received my package today. Looking at the other thread, I notice that wooznib got in a pretty bad car accident a few months ago and was in the process of recovering when he last posted in March. I hope that his recovery is going well and that there is no long-term damage.

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    I received my package today and look forward to trying them tomorrow.

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    Here are my impressions/notes in order from least preferred to most preferred. I tested these without looking at the names (I marked each one with a colored dot to keep my notes straight) or looking at the notes listed above. Keep in mind that my nose is very untrained and my guesses at notes are often wide of the mark.

    Sikar (tested on tissue only) - top notes: bitter/cocoa/harsh/searing. Rough edges. Do not like at all. Reminds me of a similar negative reaction at my first sniff of SL Borneo. The harshness mellows out somewhat on paper after 15 minutes, and there may be patchouli. I did not test this one on skin because it was very much not to my taste. Smelling the tissue over an hour later, the strong cocoa note persists. People who like Borneo should give this a try. This would very much be considered a masculine.

    Cathedral in Flames - on tissue: top notes: green, fresh/refreshing, planty. Mint/eucalyptus? Pleasant. Smells more like a household product or a soap than a perfume at this stage. On skin: very bracing and herbal in the opening, like a body wash or deodorant, probably for men. It is pleasant, though. Very green. Could be unisex or masculine. After about 30 minutes some citrus perhaps. It gets more soapy as it goes along. Some base notes begin to appear after an hour or so but the original refreshing/soapy aspect persists. After I looked at the name I thought that it wasn't a good fit for the smell, instead I would call it something that would play up the "Irish Spring" kind of associations. This is pleasing and has a nice progression, but is not my thing at all.

    Souk - on tissue: top notes: sweet, powder, incensey, Arabian. Cinnamon/clove? Maybe something herbal? In first 5 minutes my impression is that I would like to try some more. In the middle I possibly detect something herbal or green very slightly, and it is very clear that this has amber or resin. On skin: sweet and slightly medicinal in the opening. Still thinking amber or maybe patchouli. I don't think there's any florals in this; it would probably be considered unisex but is the most feminine of the group due to the sweetness, possibly vanilla. It settles well into the skin although it is mainly linear, and it has good projection. This is the one I would be most likely to wear, although it would not be my favorite of my amber/vanilla themed fragrances due to the powderiness, which is not to my taste. (N.B., looking at the notes, I see honey listed, and it's the first honey note I've smelled in anything that hasn't been sickening, so congratulations!)

    Thanks for letting me try these, and I apologize if my comments were too brutal I really appreciate your effort!

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    Default Re: Wooznib's 3 Original Perfumes Testing Discussion Thread

    I do find that many perfumes develop differently on paper than on skin.

    My husband favors Cathedral in Flames on himself (he wore it to work today and arrived home 12 hours later still smelling wonderful). The same fragrance on me becomes soapy.

    I love Souk on him -- it makes me feel like cuddling up next to his chest and staying there. On myself I liked Sikar. I need to retest, however. After my residual cold stuffiness goes away and I can smell more.
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    Sikar.

    On me this is the most masculine of the three. I didn't expect that when I read the notes because I thought the rose note would predominate. In the opening the cognac note took center stage for a boozy feel. The main middle note was the cacao on me although I could bet some hints of spice. Again not a lot of coriander. I only really noted that one in Cathedral. The basenotes of Sikar are quite nice the tobacco and benzoin resin are the main event though I do recognise the spikenard as I have some spikenard oil and could pick it out with effort. Altogether the least linear. I'd like to see (smell) a little more wood in the basenotes of this one. But I like the cognac, cacao and tobacco combination. It dries down very well.

    I'm wondering if a rough opening, I got that in the air but not on my skin was the allspice?


    My favorite is Souk...so far

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    The sample just arrived in Brussels this morning. I am going to review them soon (hopefully tonight when my nose become more sensitive). Thanks a lot for the samples... I am so excited ^^

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    Received package. Will post first review later

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    Picked up the package from the PO today. Had to destroy the careful packaging to release the vials -- all were securely taped over and over in a little plastic baggie.

    Sniffed all three out of the vials, sprayed Cathedral in Flames. Will write more.

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    Cathedral In Flames - first impressions - 6-1-2011

    I received the samples from Jim yesterday and have completed my first full day test drive. I randomly chose Cathedral In Flames for no particular reason and on first spritz I was very impressed. As I am a noob at fragrance, and here to basenotes, I hope that my impressions might be helpful but please try Jim's sample for yourself, I could be way off base. Also realize that this will probably be very unorthodox in it's format as far as typical basenotes reviews go. It is still very difficult for me to pick out single notes and even more difficult to put my feelings about this fragrance into words.

    First let me put it as simply as possible. I REALLY LIKE THIS ONE. (Haven't sniffed the other two yet)

    I did enlist the assistance of my wife this morning thinking that two noses would be better than one. When I sprayed she immediately said "peppery sassafras" but when told her I was getting cedar she said "yea that's it".

    This fragrance to me is very relaxing and refreshing. My general impression is a lightly sweet (not cloying at all) , slightly powdery, slightly minty cedar tree <g>. I do get the frankincense or some kind of spice and possibly some leather more during the dry-down but I think this may just be the way Jim skillfully supported the cedar with tonka. I can easily see a man wearing this fragrance but I think it would really rock on the ladies. The wife is in complete disagreement and assures me that it's masculine because of the "woodiness" (her words, you can see we are both noobs). So how's that for unisex?

    She and I both feel that it might need to be amped up a bit. Sillage was quite close and I personally don't think this one will be noticed except in close contact especially after the first two hours, however I was able to enjoy light occasional waves of pleasant odors for up to around the six hour mark.

    I have Montale Full Incense and Cathedral feels to me like a much lighter, smoother and probably more inoffensive version of MFI (I think mainly because of the cedar notes). This is not a bad thing since MFI almost rips at your nostrils. I think Cathedral is smooth and marvelous and certainly FBW but I really want to smell it on my wife.

    All this being said, I do want to wear this again. I would purchase this in it's current form if the price was right and simply reapply a bit more often. Good job Jim, I think you have a winner here.

    I hope this has been helpful and I appreciate the opportunity. On to sample # 2 and my report on it in a day or two. Thanks
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    Hi everyone! I received my samples safe and sound on 5/31. I did a little test spray of each on my arms and will do a full wear of Cathedral in Flames tomorrow.
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    I apologize for not looking closely at the name <Grin> Cathedral on Fire ..Cathedral in Flames... Gaff #1

    Have tried to correct my post, hope it worked,
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    Wearing Cathedral in Flames again as one spray yesterday did not give me the entire picture. That said, the initial impression was that of a brand new Frapin offering and something that I do not hate and would like to know better. Echo Zib's words that the name does not quite reflect the hidden Far Breton (prune flan) nature. Put on robust three sprays today.

    Editing: Now, 4 hours after I applied, it is still noticeable although there is no much projection. It is a scent for one's personal self. I compared it to flan and mentioned Frapin because there is a certain gourmand undercurrent going on but in a dark juicy way, just like in prunes. People who like SL Arabie would like this fragrance. The development is minimal but it exists here: from pungent green and salty herbs (Machia Mediterranea) --> to a smart middle accord of sweet cedar, neroli and soup spices --> to very comfortable and soothing embers. Aside from the French dessert, I do not get any Mid-Eastern or French feeling, it is more of Northern Maremma (Italy) impression, the moores that the ancient Etruscans populated.

    Please change the name, I am uncomfortable feeling all snug and sexy while fully clad and wearing the scent of burning churches.
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    Souk

    I sampled Souk for the 2nd time this morning and I would have to say it is my favorite of the 3. It opens very spicy, I get allspice and nutmeg. Today for the 1st time I get a hint of the coriander. I really like the opening and how it transitions and becomes slightly sweeter and the amber and vanilla come out. Neither time have I been able to pick out the geranium or the jasmine. I would certainly call this one "unisex" and I feel it is a high quality scent, one I would consider buying. The only question I have is the name, there are several companies that have a fragrance called Souk, Essentially Me is one of them. Something that would set this one apart from the rest, would be an asset. From a female prospective, I think something like "Souk at Dawn" or a name along those lines would make your fragrance more unique, but that's just my opinion. Congratulations Jim, you have created a wonderful fragrance, I think you have a winner on your hands!
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    Put on Souk, one pre-serious spray.

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    I have finished with my samples and sent them along to Warum. 30Roses, could you update the status of Group 4 in post #2 please?

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    Default Re: Wooznib's 3 Original Perfumes Testing Discussion Thread

    Done!



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    Sikar

    This one right from the start is not something I would wear. I get this strong medicinal smell that is slightly sweet. I've never smelled anything quite like it before. After looking at the notes in this, I would assume it's the naiouli, because it doesn't smell like cognac or coriander to me. Naiouli is described as a "fresh, warm, penetrating and slightly sweet, similar to eucalyptus oil. Also, has strong decongestant properties useful for head or chest colds." I can sure believe that. Once that smell quiets down, this fragrance does get better. I can pick up the allspice and cacao, but not the rose. Later it's still cacao and now cedar also, which is okay. Due to the opening, this fragrance would not be on my "buy" or "wish" list. Substitute the naiouli for something more appealing and I could change my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twolf View Post
    Wearing Cathedral in Flames again as one spray yesterday did not give me the entire picture. That said, the initial impression was that of a brand new Frapin offering and something that I do not hate and would like to know better. Echo Zib's words that the name does not quite reflect the hidden Far Breton (prune flan) nature. Put on robust three sprays today.

    Editing: Now, 4 hours after I applied, it is still noticeable although there is no much projection. It is a scent for one's personal self. I compared it to flan and mentioned Frapin because there is a certain gourmand undercurrent going on but in a dark juicy way, just like in prunes. People who like SL Arabie would like this fragrance. The development is minimal but it exists here: from pungent green and salty herbs (Machia Mediterranea) --> to a smart middle accord of sweet cedar, neroli and soup spices --> to very comfortable and soothing embers. Aside from the French dessert, I do not get any Mid-Eastern or French feeling, it is more of Northern Maremma (Italy) impression, the moores that the ancient Etruscans populated.

    Please change the name, I am uncomfortable feeling all snug and sexy while fully clad and wearing the scent of burning churches.
    I agree with the name. I find it uncomfortable at best.

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    Default Re: Wooznib's 3 Original Perfumes Testing Discussion Thread

    So far I've tried Souk and Cathedral in Flames, but want to give them a second wearing before writing much of a review. I will say I ABSOLUTELY love Souk and if it was commerically available it would be on my "want to buy" list. Also, it lasted at least 12 hours on me and I tend to have fragrance eating skin. I also liked Cathedral in Flames and could definitely see wearing it as well.

    I'm taking the samples with me to my week at the dog show in KY.

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