Thread: Vol de Nuit - delightful
I've come to Vol de Nuit blindly buying a bottle unsniffed, and am thoroughly delighted with it. I never used any of the Guerlains in my youth, so I have found a treasure trove to explore, late in life, the very time when I feel it is right to truly indulge myself if I wish.
Vol de Nuit's notes are: Orange, Mandarin, Bergamot,lemon, orange blossoms, aldehydes Jonquils, Galbanum, Spices,Vanilla, Oakmoss, Sandalwood, Orris, Musk
These notes might seem nothing much to write home about, you might think, but VdN is a great composition. This an orchestra playing in perfect harmony. There are no sour notes, no instrument dominating unnecessarily, all conducted by a master perfumer who truly knows his art.
It is like a perfect Viennese dessert, or the best Belgian chocolate, smooth, comforting, enveloping, delighting and stimulating the senses, awakening a craving for more. I swear I can almost taste chocolate, the scent is so beautiful.
And this is the modern EDT, my goodness, how wonderful would the extrait be!! I don't dare think about that.
My overall impression is of a complex, harmonious, perfectly balanced set of ingredients that create an aura of quiet elegance. It is the essence of femininity (Sorry guys, hands off this beauty - we girls should have something of our own lol ).
The aura is by turns softly floral, gently spicy, languidly vanillic, delicately musky, subtle, sweet, yet not cloying or too insistent. This doesn't say 'Mommy, look at me'. This says, 'Do I please you? Wait, there's more.' in a quiet whisper.
Now that I've found you, Vol de Nuit, I wonder how long I can enjoy you? It took me ages to get my bottle, and I'm not at all sure whether it is still being produced.
And I'm not going into the capitalist bear pit, Evil Bay, to fight for some overpriced, old, and probably deteriorated, vintage bottle.
Ah well, I'll take a little wisdom from L.P. Hartley, 'the past is a foreign country .....' (and we can't get a visa to live there)
You've discovered my <3 favourite <3 perfume ever!
I was also going to ask which concentration and vintage youre using. It is still in production in EDT today, but as the poster above me said, you would be doing yourself a massive injustive if you didnt sample a parfum extrait from before the 80s!
Vol de Nuit is heartbreaking to me. It just makes me *sigh*...
Yes, LiliB, it is magical stuff. If you get decent longevity from the EdT, you might really want to get a vintage EdT from e.g. ebay. I think it is really lovely. In extrait form, both vintage and current are truly special. Vol de Nuit is a very personal, intimate, contemplative and rather introvert scent. The vintage is more dramatic, whereas the current to my perception is more focused on a beautiful more floral (jonquil rounded off with Guerlain vanilla and with what is benzoin I think) heart. Both are masterpieces. Period.
Last edited by Larimar; 13th June 2011 at 10:40 AM. Reason: mixed up vintage and current
I love the edt its all powdery soft magic. Now the parfum is not powdery but woody warm and skin close.
Now a word of warning concerning the vintage(I am only going back early 90s and before), unfortunately VdN seems to turn quite quickly compared to the other Guerlains it seems. I have read over and over on different boards the disapoinment of those buying vintage parfum and fine it has turned. Not sure why this particular fragrance does this more than the others?
I ADORE Vol de Nuit- add me to the list of swooning fans. I love it in parfum extrait.
Petty small minded people have no place in my life.
Chypres in general age less gracefully than orientals - those foresty notes seem to turn bad quicker than balsamic resins. Extraits, though, age better than weaker concentrations. I find Mitsouko to be the one Guerlain that can disappoint most in vintage form. Vol de Nuit do change with age, but I have found it to be in a lovely way where the galbanum just turns spicier and spicier for each year. Lovely.
As I mentioned in my post, I only have the EDT. And I had a jollly hard time finding that. I'm limited to the internet to purchase my perfumes, living in a remote little bush town in Australia.
My only wish is that VdN was stronger. It is elusive, ethereal, yet hauntingly beautiful. You get a 'taste' of it and want more, more, more. I don't think my 75ml EDT is going to last long at the rate I'll be wanting to use it.
I have heard the term 'achingly beautiful' applied quite loosely in connection with some perfumes, but this one really does deserve that title.
I also live in Australia and make 95% of my perfume purchases online.
If you'd truly like to experience Vol de Nuit at its finest, and forego the cut-throat jostle of evilbay, then you might wish to order a sample of the vintage parfum from the Perfumed Court, or similar.
Well, now I am confused. I surfed the net and found a modern extrait from Escentual in the UK. It's horribly expensive, converting to about AUD$270.
So how does the current extrait live up to the vintage? Is it worth having? Given that I have the modern EDT and am quite besotted, the answer is "probably'.
I'm a little cautious about TPC. I didn't receive a consignment from them, and having been promised a replacement, haven't seen that either. Now Australian customs and postal workers are as honest as the day is long, and I have a PO Box, so things just don't get lost. Also I bought a vintage Climat from them, and it was like dishwater, no notes left that I could detect.
Given that samples of the vintage are relatively expensive, sometimes over the equivalent of $1000 if you were to buy a full bottle, I question the validity of spending my money that way. I'm always ready to take a punt on something I know I will like. So I will opt for the full bottle of my own every time, these days. Since February, I have ordered some 35 bottles of different perfumes almost blindly, and have only got a couple of true duds. Even they are quite wearable, just perhaps not full bottle worthy.
I fully intend to shunt my duds off with a 'free to a good home' tag, so that at least someone else can enjoy them. It's probably better to give them to a worthy basenoter than to a charity that will flog it off for $5 a bottle to someone who uses it as air freshener.
Anyway, I wouldn't get too hung up on trying to source some vintage extrait - the current version is magnificent in its own right. If you like the EdT (but find it too fleeting), then I can't see how you couldn't love the extrait. I'm having a hard time restraining myself from purchasing a bottle.
Now I have the 93mls edt that fits the tall gold case(I have the gold case and a refill), but it lasts really well on me in fact a good 5-6 hours. Not sure if others can get any sillage from me but I can smell it quite clearly.
I have the same gold case Donna 255. It does last, but very close to the skin. I don't get much sillage from it. This is why I would love to have a more concentrated version, and am toying with the idea of getting the extrait. I'm just being greedy, wanting the strongest possible aura from it.
A big plus for me is that DH loves it. I think he might just buy me the extrait if I ask nicely. He doesn't mind spending over $200 on the Chanels, so I don't think he'll be too fussed about the cost, especially if I do a thorough job of researching what's out there.
I find that vintage Vol de Nuit parfum holds up extremely well with age. Ive extrait from the 30s, 50s and 70s. Its only the vintage cologne which I find a bit hit and miss.
Whilst the modern extrait is wonderful, there is still something more gloomy and moving about the vintage juice.
No need to sell a kidney for a bottle, but if one crops up for a steal, its well worth investigating.
Im LOVING the Aussie dollar these days!
You're a treasure!! I'd never heard of Fascination Perfumery, and they do indeed offer the product at a remarkably cheaper price. Now I think I can surely afford it.
Lili you got me curious a 2nd time tonight! All the perfumes you are trying are 5 stars in Luca. Anyway, I looked up Vol de Nuit just to see what he had to say, and the first thing that caught my eye is what the phrase means in English: Night Flight, "released two years after its namesake--Saint-Exupéry's superb 1931 novel about mail flights to South America".
"Classics aren't classics because they seem old but because they seem always new". Tania Sanchez
I've never read Luca. On my list of things to do. I take the 'bibles' in most fields with a grain of salt.
I love movies and have the Maltin guide, widely regarded by many as THE guide. And I often disagree vehemently with his star rating. However, one thing has shown itself from living this long, is I seem to gravitate towards many of the good things in life.
I'm so cross with myself that I chose to study German not French at school. It irritates the life out of me that I can't translate French, so thanks for the translation, I couldn't for the life of me remember what it meant.
"Classics aren't classics because they seem old but because they seem always new". Tania Sanchez
Since we're at it, I will point out that elsewhere LT defines the flight inspired Vol de Nuit "as adventurous as a dessert cart", and laments the demise of the formerly adventurous Caron's ode to the airplane, En Avion.
That's weird. TPC has the vintage vol de nuit, but not the current stuff available as a sample unless you want to buy it as part of a guerlain parfum sampler. Google doesn't turn up any sites that offer samples of the current juice at all. They've got full bottles, but my curiosity to try it ain't worth $350+ right now. Anyone know of any sites that offer the current juice in sample size?
I've also heard that Mitsouko does not age well.
I agree with all the positive remarks. Today I just received my sample and out of maybe 8 samples this stood out as a winner to me.
I see the "re fill" is sold in bloomingdales for $98. That means I get the juice but not the exquisite bottle that comes with it? Can the refill travel ?
It sits lightly on the skin but definitely not a wash out just subtle. Still playing with it...overall excellent recommendation.
Unisex? Yes I'd say so if worn the right way...how ? Drinks on a rooftop bar spring/summer?
That's the refill of the old packaging, which can be had on evilbay also.
Sure it can travel. I usually don't care about fancy bottles at all.
Vol de Nuit for a rooftop bar? Why not! It wears surprisingly well in warmer weather, but is a colder weather scent just as much. Enjoy!
Thanks. This fragrance is fantastic. My only concern is how it quiets down almost immediately after putting it on. I would love it if it took more time in doing so.
I am getting very little projection from this. Is this typical of the EDT ? The parfum version at $300+ is out of the question for me.
I also have the 93 ml EDT refill for the Habit de Fete and I can hardly smell on me. The fact is that it does not last on my skin because I think it is nor properly 'fixed' but a problem with my nose also. I smell nothing. I had great expectations for this Guerlain according to users reviews but I cannot opine ... no idea how it smells.
Maybe anosmic to this fragrance?.
thatmakesscents, I did not want to mention that many have a longevity issue with the EdT - including myself -, since you seemed happy with the EdT in your initial post here. If you don't want to give up on it, get the vintage from evilbay or online (it is the better formulation) spray half generously your chest and neck and half on your clothes when you put on your shirt etc.
I have an average reaction on my skin to fragrances. They usually fix at my skin OK. This is the very first time I can detect NOTHING when applying. I will test ASAP the EDP and just in case I find it absolutely beautiful ...and affordable, I would get it.
Not so alone if someone else knows what I mean.
It is really bad to read about the supossed perfection of this scent and disabled to compare or talk about...although I have it..
thanks all users for opinions & you for your support!!!