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    I just received a decant of this from The Perfumed Court. All I can say is, "Wow." This is an incredible scent! I thought I loved Tobacco Vanille, but now I think I know what love is. Back to Black seems so much smoother, and much less synthetic, than TV. One question: is there any way to buy it without paying the outrageous price? I discovered a few weeks ago that TV is sold at some of the Estee Lauder outlets, and I can get it for about $125.00 per 50 ml (about a third less than the price at Nordstroms and the other high end retailers). Does anyone know of a similar way to get By Kilian?

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    Default Re: By Kilian Back to Black

    You can get the refill bottle of By Kilian. It doesn't come in the beautiful bottle though.

    This is 50ml refill bottle and would cost you $125.


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    You can get 50 mL refills for $130, which you could dab or decant into your own atomizer. Travel sprays are also available, you get four 7.5 mL vials and a nice sprayer for about $150. Luckyscent should carry both.

    I also like BtB, it is one of my favorites.

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    Default Re: By Kilian Back to Black

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorje123 View Post
    edit: volley types pretty quick...
    that's scary!! Am I that addicted in basenotes?!?!? hahahaha

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    It is pretty nice but, I prefer TV easily still. I get far too much honey in Back to Black. I would love it on a woman or as a present though

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    Default Re: By Kilian Back to Black

    You can get this travel spray for $135 (4x.25oz) or the plain refill bottle.

    i'm planning to get this baby next month, but Straight to Heaven smells nice too.

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    Default Re: By Kilian Back to Black

    Quote Originally Posted by barclaydetolly View Post
    I just received a decant of this from The Perfumed Court. All I can say is, "Wow." This is an incredible scent! I thought I loved Tobacco Vanille, but now I think I know what love is. Back to Black seems so much smoother, and much less synthetic, than TV. One question: is there any way to buy it without paying the outrageous price? I discovered a few weeks ago that TV is sold at some of the Estee Lauder outlets, and I can get it for about $125.00 per 50 ml (about a third less than the price at Nordstroms and the other high end retailers). Does anyone know of a similar way to get By Kilian?
    For me, Tobacco Vanille is smoother. Back to Black gets a little sour on my skin when my body heats up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFragranceReview View Post
    It is pretty nice but, I prefer TV easily still. I get far too much honey in Back to Black.
    Quote Originally Posted by NewHaarlem View Post
    For me, Tobacco Vanille is smoother. Back to Black gets a little sour on my skin when my body heats up.
    Same here. I like them both a lot but prefer the TV. The honey notes in BtB are hit and miss, depending on the day.
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    The 'in your face' Tobacco opening in TV is too much for me, and i like the honey notes in BtB.

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    See, this is why I love basenotes. Within an hour, eight great responses. Thank you all!

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    Default Re: By Kilian Back to Black

    They are both great scents. I think TV is a bit sweeter, leans gourmand, but in an adult way. Let your own nose pick for you.

    If you're going to be with us for awhile, get the smallest bottle you can of either, because you'll end up with a lot of different frags.

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    Love both, buy both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFragranceReview View Post
    It is pretty nice but, I prefer TV easily still. I get far too much honey in Back to Black. I would love it on a woman or as a present though
    I agree with this statement completely. I had a chance to sample B2B this past weekend, and, I immediately thought it to be a feminine version of TV. I put a little on the back of my hand, and, a few hours later it smelled like an exact rendition of baby powder to me. I much prefer TV, however, I think B2B is a great scent as well.

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    Default Re: By Kilian Back to Black

    Are any ladies wearing this? Katie P. gave it a rave, and made me very curious...

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    Quote Originally Posted by slvrbckgorilla View Post
    I put a little on the back of my hand, and, a few hours later it smelled like an exact rendition of baby powder to me.
    That happened to me the 1st time or 2 I tried it... now it doesn't smell powdery to me. I think it's the chamomile and maybe a couple other notes making for a powdery accord, but it seems like only a minority of people report BtB being powdery. When I smelled it as powdery it ruined the experience for me, it was like that was all I could smell and the other notes disappeared.

    I only get a hint of honey and some other sweet notes as well. It is sweet, maybe a touch too sweet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by volley2 View Post
    that's scary!! Am I that addicted in basenotes?!?!? hahahaha
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    Default Re: By Kilian Back to Black

    B2B was love at first smell for me, but over time it became too sweet and I moved it to another Bnoter that will appreciate it more. However, it is nice juice.
    Five that I am enjoying right now

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    Default Re: By Kilian Back to Black

    I didn't mind it all that much, baby powder is not an offensive smell in anyway. It also wasn't a "sterile" testing, I was wearing a cologne at the time (on my chest) and I had also sniffed multiple other frags that day, but, I couldn't resist the opportunity to get my nose on it. I really like the true to life rendition of tobacco at the top, and, I think it is an incredible fragrance none the less. However, it did reaffirm my decision to get Tobacco Vanille over it. Interesting that many people don't get the powder note, though, it was very clear to me when I tested it. Crazy how we perceive things so differently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fleurine View Post
    Are any ladies wearing this? Katie P. gave it a rave, and made me very curious...
    B2B is a very feminine smelling scent to me and everyone who has had the opportunity to smell this on my skin. So I say go for it! I think this smells amazing on a woman and not so much on a man. So much so that i gave one of my female " friends " my sample!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJM_77 View Post
    B2B is a very feminine smelling scent to me and everyone who has had the opportunity to smell this on my skin. So I say go for it! I think this smells amazing on a woman and not so much on a man. So much so that i gave one of my female " friends " my sample!
    Thank you! *off to find a way of smelling this*

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJM_77 View Post
    B2B is a very feminine smelling scent to me and everyone who has had the opportunity to smell this on my skin. So I say go for it! I think this smells amazing on a woman and not so much on a man. So much so that i gave one of my female " friends " my sample!
    I have never thought of pipe tobacco as feminine...

    Fleurine, Luckyscent sells samples of all the By Kilian frags... try Rose Oud too

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    Bought Back to Black in Rome two weeks ago whilst comparing it to the Andy Tauer 'Auburn'.

    Seriously love BtB, love the packaging too...

    If you looking at the refills as a cheaper alternative, try contacting Campomarzio70. Depending on your exchange rate, the prices vary. With the Australian dollar as it is, the refills came in under $95 (AUD) bucks.
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    Strangely, my thoughts about BtB have changed the more I wear it. Whereas Tobacco Vanille smells the same on me after several hours with no linear development, I've found that BtB develops a very sour honey note over time -- so sour that it starts to smell borderline offensive. I love its opening, but may not be able to wear it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorje123 View Post
    That happened to me the 1st time or 2 I tried it... now it doesn't smell powdery to me. I think it's the chamomile and maybe a couple other notes making for a powdery accord, but it seems like only a minority of people report BtB being powdery. When I smelled it as powdery it ruined the experience for me, it was like that was all I could smell and the other notes disappeared.

    I only get a hint of honey and some other sweet notes as well. It is sweet, maybe a touch too sweet...
    I'm glad someone else finds this to come off powdery. After just reading the reviews I thought maybe I was nuts... Count me in the minority that finds this to come off as wicked powdery. Not sure which note I'm perceiving as powder - maybe it is the chamomile? I don't get the nice big dollop of tobacco I was hoping for, it's nice, but the powder seems kind of overwhelming on me, it's hard to pick out anything else, except the cherry-esque raspberry's sweetness.

    Thanks for the sample Dorje, it finally got cool enough for me to feel like wearing it! Maybe the final wearing will unveil some mystery of its greatness?

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    I love this fragrance! One of my absolute favorites. I know some people will split up the travel spray and sell single bottles of it on eBay. You'll only get 7.5 ml, but for me that's perfect.

    I agree about TV. TV is quite harsh to my nose, so it's BtB for me.
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    Default Re: By Kilian Back to Black

    By Kilian Back to Black is a very nice fragrance IMO.

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    To me BtB i very syntetic, TV IS a honey/tobacco scent!

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    I think BtB is better than TV but just my opinion.

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    Default Re: By Kilian Back to Black

    I love Back to Black. TV is nice, but it seems very linear and straight forward to me, while BtB keeps me more interested. I probably need more time with TV.

    BtB can be had for $2.33/ml if you buy the 30ml travel refill set for $70. This makes it much more affordable, whether you have the travel atomizer or not (the 30ml travel set with the Kilian metal magnetic atomizer is $135).

    By the way both BtB and TV have excellent longevity. BtB lasts for over 24 hours on my skin.

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    I agree that the travel spray is the way to go for small amounts.
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