where are you Hedonist222?
Thread: help me find a good OUDH...
next month im visiting Saudi Arabia and Dubai...
i want to purchase some great smelling oudh oils...
ive heard good things about surrati and arabian oud...
any recommendations???? duh my budget is not very high.
where are you Hedonist222?
You may have better luck posting your question here. A number of members live or used to live in the Middle East region and should be able to give good advice.
From my modest experience - if you are looking for natural, pure, undiluted oils you are going to have a tough time finding a lot of them there.
Pure oud oils are very expensive. More than 100usd per ml (much more).
Sorry I forgot to include the link to the Oud Social Group where you can get more advice: http://www.basenotes.net/group.php?d...461&do=discuss
As for stores to check out, Abdul Samad Al Qurashi and Arabian Oud are always a good bet, although if you will be looking for bargains, you probably won't find a lot of high quality pure, unadulterated single source oils. Surrati's stuff is synthetic, so by definition their products are not what you are looking for if you want "oud". Ajmal has some oud oils but to me they are overpriced and smell blended at best (most likely diluted too).
If you absolutely want to get pure ouds of high quality you don't need need to go to Dubai or KSA, but instead get something from the trusted internet sellers like Oriscent (now renamed to Ensar Oud), AgarAura, Oudimentary, RK Sons or Oudline.
As said above.
Small budget and dehn Oud is not a good combination.
But pass by Abdul Samad AlQurashi and Ajmal and Rasasi.
Just keep in mind, if costs approx less than $300 per approx 12ml then it's not very good.
No elitism here or anything. Authentic dehn Oud just costs a lot. That's the way it is.
The bottom line is, you are going there, and you have a nose with you.
Smell as often as you can. ASAQ Arabian Oud and Ajmal are companies I like. Ajmal also has really good non-oud stuff. Try them as well. Good stuff from Al Qurashi costs a lot, moderately priced ones are usually mediocre and has much cheaper alternatives -IMO. But you will be there, so you may get a dab of kalakassi on your arms even if you can't afford it.
Hope you enjoy your visit.
Hedonist222 and Saripatates are the ones to listen to on this!
NASforever, you can get good Oud for lower prices but they are other mixed with oth ingredients to make it a "mukhalat" which means mixture or simply lower grade Oud.
HVing not indulged in premium grade Oud, you may be satisfied with the entry levek Oud. I suggest you state y our budget and smell within it. Smelling the premium grade will definitely affect your impressions on the entry grade, in a bad way lol.
@ Igor - on a scale of 1-10 with 10 being top notch, how would you rate oudh from rk sons and Oriscent
i have a oudh form rk sons which is insanely potent in the nicest way. i just dab a tiny pin point on my chest and it keeps going forever... however, it has a barnyard smell to it.. is this common with all oudhs...?
Oud Lovers Group are true geeks. I just like oud :P
well i was not expecting it to be this way...
my budget was max $250 :s
i think i shud increase my budget...
neways bottom line is that in my budget i will only find mukhalats....
but are these mukhlats good?? i mean are they they imitating the oudh or what..????
well ive tried many montales and i really like them...
and considering the fact that they also may not use pure oudh oils they still smell amazing to me...
so if i may not find pure oudh oil im good with mukhlats or blends...
can u recommend me some????
and there are many oudhs like malaysian oudh, indian oudh, combodian oudh...etc
which one is the best???
thnx hedonist222 and sarıpatates
As I suggested, walk into the store, state your budget exaggerated by approx 15% and ask to see whats in that range.
Smell then select what appeals to you and then ask for a discount. They'll usually give from 5 to 15 %.
I am personally not fan of mukhalats. I prefer pure oud oil.
I've never been in the gulf, but I think that oils are sold by quantity, so if you are happy with buying 1/4 tola (3ml) instead of 1 tola (12 ml), I assume you can get something good.
And then, some synthetic reconstructions can be decent and inexpensive. For instance, I have tried the Swiss Arabian mukhallat malaki that, while nowhere remotely comparable to pure oud, gives a good impression of a oud-rose-saffron mix, and this for $30. But then other syntetic reconstructions can be obnoxiously bad (a bad purchase of mine: ASAQ mukhallat al atoor). So, as hedonist was saying, just go and smell.
The barnyard note you perceive in RK's oud is common to Indian oils with their staple (no pun intended) animalic or sometimes fecal aroma. I don't dig Indian ouds generally speaking, so the only three Indian oils that I bought were ASAQ Kalakassi and AgarAura's Indian Spice and Purana. Oriscent's Nuh is very good too but I don't wear Hindi's enough to justify another bottle of oil that will not see much use. RK's oils (they are all Indian) are of varying quality and appeal to me, their Double Super had varying degrees of barnyardiness across the different batches all of which were too much for me. The Kohinoor was much nicer but I much prefer a woodier, drier Hindi scent profile, like Kalakassi.
So, as you see, any ratings I can provide on Oriscent or others would range wildly across the different geographical groups and be completely arbitrary (i.e. useless to others). I am sure those who don't shy away from barnyard note are much better positioned to give a meaningful feedback on Indian oils from Oriscent or others. Because of my tastes, I wouldn't be cought dead wearing Oriscent's Assam Organic or China Exclusive, or even such highly acclaimed masterpieces of the Indian genre as their Sulaiman and Mostafa. I much prefer their softer and "prettier" oils like Kyara LTD, Kyara Koutan, Royal Kinam, Borneo Kinam, Burmese Kinam, Borneo 3000, Blue Brunei and Sheikh's Borneo. I guess different people will have different views on what a good oud is, my own theory is simple - whatever smells good to you and what you are comfortable about wearing in public (and can afford) is a good oud
Sorry for such an opinionated and unhelpful reply.
Igor, Thank you very much for taking your time out. i enjoyed reading your review.
My fears put to rest. i just cant stand the fecal/barnyard smell. why would anyone want to smell like that..maybe skin chemistry plays a role? or maybe i need to try and apply as little as a pin tip to see if it's any better. but i doubt it'll impress me.
one of these days i would really want to samplethe borneo's and kinam. will do for sure.
i'll definitely try to sample different kinds of oils availible and try to pick the best one...
yeah im just trying to increase my budget but if im not able to do so i'll buy less mls rather than 12ml or tola wotever its is....
Arabian Oudh has so many good feed backs i'll def visit them...
for sure man i'll let u noe when i'll come back
Sorry to derail a little from the topic. I would like to know of any great oud based frags? Something with no rose coz I have Black Aoud already.
Igor01 and the relevant Oud Social Group have a depth of knowledge that would, indeed, be useful.