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  1. #31

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    Risky to put anything on your skin at 100.0%, much better to use smelling strips. On skin you cannot follow the development over several hours (if not days) whilst with strips you can. I would dilute to at least 50.0% and dip onto strips.

    Anyway, glad the samples arrived safely and that you like (some of) them. Hope they were what you wanted.

  2. #32

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    Titillating descriptions Paul. I wonder what the tenacity of these frankincense materials is like?

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    I can still smell the Fumescens a day later on my arm.
    Can't smell the Pyrogenated Olibanum.

    And I wonder, because the Fumescens to me smells more like old churches, I think I like it better...
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  4. #34

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    Yet another thread resurrected.. I'm working with a base accord around frankincense resinoid, and looking
    for ways to enhance the incense effect through the dry out.. For some reason, at 5%, those resins don't last
    that long on a strip - maybe ~10 hours..
    I'm trying some ideas on this thread (norlimbanol, ionone beta and also ambroxam), and these smell cute.. But I wonder if anyone has any other ideas, as these enhance the woodiness.. I still plan on trying kohinool, labdanum and cypress, though they probably won't prolong the dry out time, and don't really like oxyocytaline (the combination with frankincense smells like teenagers to me..).
    Thanks

  5. #35

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    Patchouli and Myrrh, with a trace of Cade perhaps? If you want something lighter then perhaps a little Storax.
    Last edited by Pears; 18th March 2014 at 11:59 AM.

  6. #36

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    Hoo.. patchouli! Thanks for reminding me
    I have patchouli heart - maybe it could work. Not sure what the difference between it and the
    molecular distillation scent-wise. I'll try to get some in the future.
    I didn't mention - but I added some guaiac to emphasize that smoke aspect. Works really nice..
    You think cade will do a better job? Never worked with it in small dilution.

    Also, I've looked at the GC they have at TGSC. It's not really clear what exactly in frankincense
    is a base note. The main components seem more like middle notes..

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    If Guaiac works for you, Nirex then there's no reason to swap it for something else. You might like to try a combination of Guaiac and Cade though. Cade is definitely the more smokey of the two. For testing purposes, I'd add a drop of Cade to a ml of ethanol and then add the dilution a drop at a time, until it's just faintly perceptible. You don't want to overdo it because it will get stronger during the dry down.

    I don't think of Frankincense as a base note really. The resin components in it can act as fixatives but not many of the volatiles would be considered base notes. If it's burned as incense then that's a different matter, as some of the compounds that form are base notes with low odor detection thresholds. At that temperature, the volatilized resin components will also likely add to the depth of aroma. Similar to how Pine rosin has little smell, until you melt or burn it.
    Last edited by Pears; 18th March 2014 at 07:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizan View Post
    Yet another thread resurrected.. I'm working with a base accord around frankincense resinoid, and looking
    for ways to enhance the incense effect through the dry out.. For some reason, at 5%, those resins don't last
    that long on a strip - maybe ~10 hours..
    I'm trying some ideas on this thread (norlimbanol, ionone beta and also ambroxam), and these smell cute.. But I wonder if anyone has any other ideas, as these enhance the woodiness.. I still plan on trying kohinool, labdanum and cypress, though they probably won't prolong the dry out time, and don't really like oxyocytaline (the combination with frankincense smells like teenagers to me..).
    Thanks
    I think my top choice here would be Ambermax if you want to avoid getting too woody - it works very nicely with Ambrofix/Ambroxan too. Dihydro Ionone Beta might be better than Ionone beta too, or Methyl Ionone if you want the violet connotation as itís longer lasting.
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    Isn't dihydro ionone pretty volatile? I'll try some ambermax, when it gets here
    Thanks!

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    Has anyone ever made a Frankincense and Myrrh combo?

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    I tend to stay away from myrrh.. Couldn't figure out how to make it somewhat pleasant..
    I've gotten some amyl salicylate - I'm not sure, but it sometimes smells like it could enhance the frankincense.. Will have to check it later this week. Any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDopeyOne View Post
    Has anyone ever made a Frankincense and Myrrh combo?
    The hard part is getting the smell of gold in there. Easy enough to mix the two and tell if it works the way you intended.

  13. #43

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    I'm smelling some ambermax now.. It has that green celery harshness that I also get from norlimbanol at the begining.. Is it a dilution issue? Ambercore is slightly more subdued, but it's also on the dry side..
    There were mentions of a Schiff's base with C12.. I remember there was some debate on whether lauric or MNA.. Couldn't find it, though..

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    Lots of excellent suggestions and information in this thread. Just to add my 1 3/4 cents, I might mention that since FireSurfer mentioned his desire to create an incense based on Frankincense (as opposed to, say, a perfume or cologne), using a good variety of Frankincense might just do the trick. (as resin, or more accurately, I believe, as resinoid, varieties for same described in various other posts in this thread). Considering that such has been burned as an incense for centuries, and as well is incorporated into many contemporary incenses (stick and otherwise), it might be something to consider the use of the same Frankincense version that has been burned as incense since pre-historic times (excuse me for being maybe a bit facetious here, please all be aware that I am not being sarcastic, and I say this knowing that it is a fine line that creates the distinction between one and the other). Oil of Frankincense is so lemony (depending on variety, batch and origin, etc., of course), with strong terpene aspects, and at first glance for many, may seem more like turpentine...it did to me when I for the first time was exposed to the EO and at that distant earlier date, with an entirely untrained nose at that time, I did not understand how all oils and aromatics of natural origin in general have many different nuisances/notes. I was most surprised to find how the oil's olfactoral aspects were so unike the Frankincense (resinoid) that I burnt as incense, that is, the same stuff that is burned in the church. I was thinking, back then, that the EO was supposed to smell "like" the plant portion that was most used for its aroma, not understanding then that each EO represents only certain aspects of the plant product from which it is derived (ie.the aspects pulled out of the plant and in varying ratios which were determined by the method in which the extract was made).
    I know I have far exceeded my 1 3/4 cents worth at this point, and very obviously, I am not providing any education whatsoever to those here with extensive fragrance experience, but please excuse me for taking the liberty of adding yet another 1.75 cent's worth (give or take .25 cent or so), and mention that White Lotus Aromatics offers a nice "Heart Note EO" of Frankincense, where the high end (ie. the lemony aspect and other top notes) is absent. Rather similar to Frankincense Absolute by Liberty, but with the top end yet still more so removed (in comparison to regular Frank. EO,or the smoke of burning resinoid). Not sure if it is safe to say that this oil quite represents Frankincense, as the lemony aspect which has been removed is well known to be one characteristic of the Frankincense odor profile, ummm, whatever that might actually be.

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    I hate to admit it, but most frankincense (I'm talking about burning incense) smells to me like furniture polish. I ordered examples from all over the world until I hit upon something magnificent, without the lemony/turpentine-like top notes. It smelled very balsamic, warm and suave. Unfortunately, I ordered some more and it had changed. It's still the best I've yet smelled, but it still has those top notes, albeit in attenuated form. Is this what you're describing that comes from White Lotus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDopeyOne View Post
    Has anyone ever made a Frankincense and Myrrh combo?
    Smells like church, I'm not very impressed by this combo, neither burning pure frankincense or the essential oil. Maybe my nose is spoilt..

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    Hi James, the HeartNote from WLA really is quite different than the scent of frankincense when burned (or vaporized). A tincture of the Hojary version, or, the Absolute from Liberty, or, the Resinoid Absolute ("Citralline") from Mermade Magickal Arts, in my opinion, are much closer. The Heartnote has its own particular application (good fixative, scent modifier), but again, is quite different than the versions I mention here. Also, the resinoid offered by PSH is a nice option, though, it is more in the pinene direction, not quite as close to the raw resin as the other versions just mentioned, yet closer than the Heartnote.
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    This is actually good news as I'm not going for that smoky churchy smell. I'm rather pursuing that wonderful balsamic quality (sans pinene etc.) that I found in my stuff from Singapore. I'll let you know the results of my research.

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    Please do let me know the results of your research, I will be most interested to hear of them.

    Alan

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