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    Default Re: recently reformulated kouros?

    OK, so after returning my bottle of expired Kouros yesterday at the discount store, I went out and purchased a new bottle from a department store. It's manufacturing date checks out as January 2012, looks just like the OP's bottle (sans bottom metal rim) and has a similar serial number/code on the bottom. Problem? My feelings mirror the original posters. This does not smell like the Kouros which I've sampled in the past, it's as Neo-Angel said, too soapy, too vanilla/powedry, too civilized, devoid of any animalic bite .

    I feel cheated

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    Duke I cannot believe they have neutered Kouros as I remember how popular it was in the Eighties. And the animalic aspect of it is what makes the fragrance, changing that and you turn it into a generic drug store frag. That is sad to hear that one of the last Eighties greats has been civilized.

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    You can't possibly be that surprised after what they did to Opium. L'Oreal is a terrible company.
    My Top Ten:

    1: Guerlain - Habit Rouge
    2: Guerlain - Jicky
    3: Guerlain - Mouchoir de Monsieur
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    Also their little cost cutting exercise on the bottle is ridiculous too. The older bottle looked much slicker and balanced with the metal trim on all corners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke Hunt View Post
    OK, so after returning my bottle of expired Kouros yesterday at the discount store, I went out and purchased a new bottle from a department store. It's manufacturing date checks out as January 2012, looks just like the OP's bottle (sans bottom metal rim) and has a similar serial number/code on the bottom. Problem? My feelings mirror the original posters. This does not smell like the Kouros which I've sampled in the past, it's as Neo-Angel said, too soapy, too vanilla/powedry, too civilized, devoid of any animalic bite .

    I feel cheated
    I have owned 2 different bottles of Kouros, and experienced exactly the same as you. The new bottle was very "thin" and weak comparing to the old one. It has been reformulated, no doubt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oslo-Fjord View Post
    I have owned 2 different bottles of Kouros, and experienced exactly the same as you. The new bottle was very "thin" and weak comparing to the old one. It has been reformulated, no doubt!
    I just gave my hand another heavy spritz to see if it's my mind playing tricks on me. Nope, this is pure liquid hand soap, nothing even remotely challenging about it

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    Hi Guys,

    Just wanted to share with everyone a little something which really intrigued me.

    So i love Kouros ALOT!! I have several different batches now from the 80's 90's and 2000's eras.

    Anyway i keep my vintage stuff stored in a box with zip lock bags and bubble wrap.

    I purchased a bottle of the reformulated Kouros about 3-4 months ago and did not like the reformulation so i decided to wear other colognes.

    Yesterday, i was running late and decided to grab the NEW Kouros and take it with me and spray it at work.

    I live in Sydney Australia and right now it is very hot and it is summer. Anyway i forgot to take the Kouros out of the car.
    It was about 36 degress Celcius yesterday in Sydney and before i knew it lunch time had come. I walked past a fragrance store and relised that
    i had left the new Kouros in the car and it was HOT and so i rushed back to get it out since it was directly exposed to sunlight.

    What happened next really took me by suprise....

    I immediately sprayed it on my hand to see if the juice had gone bad, Turns out that the heat actually improved the scent and made it smell like a 2006 batch. So i decided to keep it in there until the days end. In total 9 hours of continuous heat in the car which is exposed to sunlight.

    I got home, had a shower and compared the new reformulation that was sitting in the car to a Sanofi version from 1992... They smelt nothing alike.

    I then compared it to a 2002 batch and they smelt identical and very nice. Infact im wearing the new reformulation right now and i can say it smells much better than before. I know for a fact that it is not a result of maturing because i purchased 2 bottles of the reformulated 3-4 months ago and compared the two and the one that was left in the heat smells brilliant. (The juice when comparing the two reformulated versions, the one in the car seems to have darkened ever so slightly)

    Anyway, i know we shouldnt keep the juices in sunlight etc but i did and it actually worked out well.

    Thought to share it with everyone...

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    I think the current Kouros will appeal to more people, as the animalic touches have bee almost removed. I like my Kouros skanky and musky so I will stick with the previous formulations.

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    I wanted to try the new formulation at Ulta, but unlike a few years back, I was told they don't carry it any longer. Perhaps few liked the new formulation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neilk83 View Post
    Hi Guys,

    Just wanted to share with everyone a little something which really intrigued me.

    So i love Kouros ALOT!! I have several different batches now from the 80's 90's and 2000's eras.

    Anyway i keep my vintage stuff stored in a box with zip lock bags and bubble wrap.

    I purchased a bottle of the reformulated Kouros about 3-4 months ago and did not like the reformulation so i decided to wear other colognes.

    Yesterday, i was running late and decided to grab the NEW Kouros and take it with me and spray it at work.

    I live in Sydney Australia and right now it is very hot and it is summer. Anyway i forgot to take the Kouros out of the car.
    It was about 36 degress Celcius yesterday in Sydney and before i knew it lunch time had come. I walked past a fragrance store and relised that
    i had left the new Kouros in the car and it was HOT and so i rushed back to get it out since it was directly exposed to sunlight.

    What happened next really took me by suprise....

    I immediately sprayed it on my hand to see if the juice had gone bad, Turns out that the heat actually improved the scent and made it smell like a 2006 batch. So i decided to keep it in there until the days end. In total 9 hours of continuous heat in the car which is exposed to sunlight.

    I got home, had a shower and compared the new reformulation that was sitting in the car to a Sanofi version from 1992... They smelt nothing alike.

    I then compared it to a 2002 batch and they smelt identical and very nice. Infact im wearing the new reformulation right now and i can say it smells much better than before. I know for a fact that it is not a result of maturing because i purchased 2 bottles of the reformulated 3-4 months ago and compared the two and the one that was left in the heat smells brilliant. (The juice when comparing the two reformulated versions, the one in the car seems to have darkened ever so slightly)

    Anyway, i know we shouldnt keep the juices in sunlight etc but i did and it actually worked out well.

    Thought to share it with everyone...
    You recently joined BN and have only a few posts, AND you are making a claim that defies logic but is in accord with what one blogger (and few others) who has some very strange ideas has said. This leads me to think you might be that person or a "shill" for that person. Slight changes are possible (usually over the course of months if not years), of course, but the only reasonable explanation, if you are "real," is that it lost most of its top notes and you are now experiencing the mid and base notes primarily.
    Last edited by Bigsly; 6th December 2013 at 02:04 AM.

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    No Im just a novice... Ive been wearing Kouros since 1999... and only just recently, literally 3-4 months ago i noticed the change in bottle and also the scent.

    I then found this forum and did some research since the Kouros i was used to smelt different and ended up getting vintage bottles on ebay. You can find my two ebay account "neilkapoor" and also kduong211" and see my purchases. Im definately a person who just out of an accident discovered that the Kouros smells fine after it was left in the heat.

    I contacted Andre Moreau and also ericrico who in my opinion those two know more about Kouros than anyone that i have ever come across. They also helped me learn and identify batch numbers as well as checking out vintage purchases prior to me buying from ebay sellers.

    I can certainly tell you that Vintage really is the best stuff around, but me leaving the Kouros in the car yesterday and discovering a nicer one inline with previous versions was just kismet i guess.

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    And yes im only new to the forum but i am learning alot from it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by neilk83 View Post
    No Im just a novice... Ive been wearing Kouros since 1999... and only just recently, literally 3-4 months ago i noticed the change in bottle and also the scent.

    I then found this forum and did some research since the Kouros i was used to smelt different and ended up getting vintage bottles on ebay. You can find my two ebay account "neilkapoor" and also kduong211" and see my purchases. Im definately a person who just out of an accident discovered that the Kouros smells fine after it was left in the heat.

    I contacted Andre Moreau and also ericrico who in my opinion those two know more about Kouros than anyone that i have ever come across. They also helped me learn and identify batch numbers as well as checking out vintage purchases prior to me buying from ebay sellers.

    I can certainly tell you that Vintage really is the best stuff around, but me leaving the Kouros in the car yesterday and discovering a nicer one inline with previous versions was just kismet i guess.

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    And yes im only new to the forum but i am learning alot from it!
    Why don't you send those guys a small sample from that "cooked" bottle and let's see what they have to say!

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    More than happy to, will send Andre and Ericrico a PM now

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    Default Re: recently reformulated kouros?

    Hi Neil -

    This is rather strange, I must say. A bottle of any scent getting cooked and getting better?? But, I'm game. If he's right, I will be microwaving bottles of reformulated juice and enjoying them myself!

    And, just to clear any question up...Neil has been a very kind and humble 'newcomer' to Basenotes who is eager to learn. His passion is to enjoy scent. Kouros has been the topic of our conversations and he highly respects the Vintage bottlings, as anyone should. He's not some guy fronting for anyone.

    Cheers,

    ericrico
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    I procured a vintage late 80s Kouros tester from an antique dealer on Ebay. I will review that once I get it,
    Who bought the other one? Because I posted the link for it on basenotes. It was offered at a bargain too, 47 bucks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinramani09 View Post
    I procured a vintage late 80s Kouros tester from an antique dealer on Ebay. I will review that once I get it,
    Who bought the other one? Because I posted the link for it on basenotes. It was offered at a bargain too, 47 bucks!
    I was looking at that last week i think, anyway i woke up and it was sold guess you got it! Good stuff though!!

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    ^Yup thats me lol

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