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    Default February 2012 Blind Sniff



    * Soul Sisters *
    * Joined at the Hip * Separated at Birth * Doppelgängers *
    * Kindred Spirits * Mistaken Identities * Scent Twins *

    The Sniffers

    darkdreams, Haunani, and meowmo

    The Samples

    For the February Blind Sniff, your hosts Nostalgie and Warum offer 3 main fragrances: A, B, C.
    Sample D is a bonus sniff!

    We have categorized the four samples as indie, lower-end designer, mainstream designer, and niche. (Notice that we listed those in alphabetical order. We wouldn’t give that much away right off the bat, now would we?). These categories could be debated, of course. Keep in mind that there can be a fine line (and lots of overlap) between indie and niche, niche and mainstream, etc., that categories can blur, and that they can change from high-end to drugstore (and vice-versa) over time.

    To add a twist (and to help you out) we are also sending “Soul Sisters” for each of these fragrances. They are labeled A-2, B-2, C-2 and D-2. These fragrances have something in common with their “sister” sample. They are not dupes, reissues, flankers, or reformulations.* But their similarities (in notes, in vibe, in conception) have been noted and debated on this and other sites, in chats, reviews, blog posts, etc. The sister fragrance is not necessarily of the same category (designer, indie,
    niche) as the A,B, C (and bonus D) that you are ID-ing.

    Note: the presentation of the samples offers no clues to the identity or value of the juice. [The color may be helpful, as always]. If there is less of one sample, or if one vial is different, that just means we had less on hand to decant, or we did not have enough identical vials to use.
    Be careful with the A-2 vials. They were stubborn and hard to cap.



    Suggested Sniffing Procedure

    • Start with sample A.
    • Take some to get a feel for the mood and the notes.
    • Share your first impressions.
    • Then, when all sniffers agree they are ready, try an arm-to-arm comparison of A and A-2. And so on for the other pairs.

    Remember, you only have to guess A, B, and C (and maybe D). So if you prefer to smell them without their sisters, that's fine. Just have fun!

    We realize that this comparison sniffing may cause you to toss around names of perfumes in the discussion forum. Just let us know when you want those names confirmed. If you say “I think one of the A sisters (A or A2) is Liz Claiborne Realities—but I don’t know which one”—we’ll be happy to confirm just that much. If you are correct, we’ll let you sniffers keep sleuthing and chatting to determine which of the two you’ve identified correctly.



    * Reformulations: its hard to say what was reformulated, when, in what way. Our twin sets do not pair old and new formulations of a given fragrance. But wouldn't that be a good sniff theme?


    RECAP
    (To the tune of "Someone like you")


    Naughty twins:
    A: Miller Harris, l'Air de rien (we're calling it niche)
    [Darkdreams guessed this in seconds flat, followed closely by her teammates]

    A2: Jean Desprez Bal à Versailles (EDT)
    [not as easy as we thought, but the team persevered!]

    Complicated twins:
    B: Jean Louis Scherrer, Scherrer 2 (EDT, oldish bottle) (we're calling it designer, mid-range)
    B2: Estee Lauder , Youth Dew (new EDP)
    [Who knew this one would be so difficult? We chalk it up to the unknown of reformulations, and to the many concentrations--including bat oil--we have sniffed and committed to scent memory over the years.]


    Pastel twins:
    C: Brécourt, Eau Trouble (we're calling it indie)
    C2 Editions de Parfums Frédéric Malle, L'Eau d'hiver
    [The sleuthing was as smooth as the fragrances]

    Bonus twins
    D: Molyneux, Le numéro cinq
    D2: Chanel No. 5 EDP, current formulation ( whew! The toughest of them all!)

    [Chanel No. 5 proved the most difficult of all! We think this has something to do with the smooth blending: sniffers guessed many key notes, none of which screams or screeches. I for one have new appreciation of No. 5 as an abstract composition. It was indeed fairly easy to "see" its components, but difficult to "see" what they represented.]
    Last edited by Nostalgie; 9th June 2012 at 05:28 PM.
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    OMG I am so excited! This is the bestest of all the best sniffs ever and I am so happy I am a part of it! I cannot wait for my samples!

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    Sounds like a fun sniff! Best of luck to all the sniffers ...
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    That's the spirit, darkdreams!
    Thanks for the good wishes and the tech help, shades!
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    Yay! I can't wait either.

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    My samples are here already! Thank you so much, I cannot wait to sniff them! Can I open little packages?

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    What a wonderfully clever theme! We are going to have double the fun! Adding more excited smilies...


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    Quote Originally Posted by darkdreams View Post
    My samples are here already! Thank you so much, I cannot wait to sniff them! Can I open little packages?
    That was fast! Go ahead, DD, open the little packages. Each vial has a label. No big surprises except how it smells and what it is!

    Love the bouncy guy chorus line, Haunani and Warum!
    Last edited by Nostalgie; 17th February 2012 at 03:31 AM.
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    Thanks for all the work, N -- 8 vials x 3 sniffers is a lot of love, patience and determination.

    Witty theme, sounds wonderful.

    Nice, very precise instructions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twolf View Post
    Thanks for all the work, N -- 8 vials x 3 sniffers is a lot of love, patience and determination.

    Witty theme, sounds wonderful.

    Nice, very precise instructions.
    Thanks for your encouraging words, Twolf! We couldn't have done it without your model.

    It was a team effort with Warum . We compiled samples (she went to heroic lengths to get one of them!). She sent hers to me and then I prepared the packages so all the samples would go out in one mailing. Fewer steps and fewer packages to track. We also hammered out the announcement together in PMs.
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    I received my parcel today, and have carefully stowed the four little twin-packs in my letter box. I also posted my upcoming schedule in the general Blind Sniff thread. Looking forward!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haunani View Post
    I received my parcel today, and have carefully stowed the four little twin-packs in my letter box. I also posted my upcoming schedule in the general Blind Sniff thread. Looking forward!!!
    Yay!
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    How has this not become a reality show? That's OK, let it be our little BN secret. Following this thread enthusiastically
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    Quote Originally Posted by jujy54 View Post
    How has this not become a reality show? That's OK, let it be our little BN secret. Following this thread enthusiastically
    Glad to have you on board , jujy! I've watched this reality show many times, too!
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    I wonder if meowmo got her samples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkdreams View Post
    I wonder if meowmo got her samples.
    DC says "yes." I'll PM her.
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    That is great. Now let's hope she is around and ready to sniff. I am!

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    duplicate post
    Last edited by Nostalgie; 19th February 2012 at 04:41 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkdreams View Post
    That is great. Now let's hope she is around and ready to sniff. I am!
    Is Monday looking better? DH and I don't get the day off. It's an at-home day for me, though, either way this month.
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    I am home tomorrow and so is my husband. We might go to see a movie or do some shopping but there are definitely times when I can log in. If we don't have to sniff all the same time, it definitely can work for me.

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    If meomo is still free, and if the package did arrive on her doorstep --you never know with deliv. conf-- we could start Monday morning.

    Warum said 9:00 a.m. PST is good for her. DD, if you are itching to get started, you could always post a bit earlier, then others can join in. I'll check first thing in the morning to see if there is any action on this thread.



    Most recent scheduling info:
    Monday

    darkdreams: on and off all day
    Haunani: all day
    meowmo: all day

    Nostalgie: on and off all day (evening maybe)
    Warum: all day (fee to start hosting at 9:00a.m. PST; so is Nostalgie)


    Tuesday
    darkdreams: 11-3 and after 6 p.m EST
    Haunani: 1:30-5:30 PST and 9:30-midnight PST
    meowmo: all day

    Nostalgie: morning until about 1:00 p.m. EST; evening maybe
    warum: all day

    Wednesday:
    darkdreams: all day
    Haunani: 4:00-midnight PST
    meowmo: all day

    Nostalgie: probably good most of day
    warum: starting from noon PST

    Thursday:
    darkdreams: 11-3 and after 6 p.m EST
    Haunani: 1:30-midnight PST
    meowmo: all day

    Warum: maybe


    Friday
    darkreams: all day
    Haunani: all day!
    meowmo: all day


    Nostalgie: no
    Warum: no
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    9:00 a.m PST tomorrow (Monday) is perfect for me. Crossing fingers that MeowMo got her package.

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    Good morning ladies. I am awake. Any news from meowmo?

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    No, not yet, but I think we can go ahead and start today, and hope she joins in!
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    All right, let's hope she will join us soon. I could also wait until we her from her.
    For the third time in 24 hours, my husband is seasoning an iron skillet. Everything stinks of burning oil, including my hair and clothes!!!
    I just applied a little sample A on my arm. So far, from what I can get it is absolutely lovely. Mmmmm...it strongly reminds me of something I tried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkdreams View Post
    I just applied a little sample A on my arm. So far, from what I can get it is absolutely lovely. Mmmmm...it strongly reminds me of something I tried.
    In keeping with the theme!!! I can't wait to find out what it is it reminds you of (or if it is exactly the one you tried)!
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    Maybe I should spray A2 as well.
    If we think we recognize something (which could be because of the sneaky theme ) should we PM it to you?

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    What do think, Warum? Start by getting the notes in A? The mood, overall impression?

    [Note: Haunani starts at 9 PST unless she hops on board earlier]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nostalgie View Post
    What do think, Warum? Start by getting the notes in A? The mood, overall impression?

    [Note: Haunani starts at 9 PST unless she his on board earlier]
    I think we can do both ways, notes and overall impressions. TWolf always suggests finding perfumes that are similar, which is really interesting because of our theme.
    I'll say, let the sniffers be free to explore their associations and impressions from the perfume, be it notes, overall feel or more "sisters"! What say you?

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    Sounds good. DD, start with you reaction to A. The notes, or the mood , anything.
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    Let me tell you my preliminary thoughts on A. I think it has an old vibe but it probably isn't. It is very interesting and unconventional so I would guess this is the niche one. It may be independent too, I don't know, but it seems very well crafted, so for now I will stick with my niche guess.

    In case, there are spectators who would like to get involved, it is almost clear. I would say it is an EDT, judging from the strength and consistency. If this is indeed a niche perfume, then it is totally unisex. If it is nit, than I would lean towards feminine.

    Overall, I love it. With all the smoke around me, I still can't keep my nose away from my wrist.

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    Are you detecting any notes, or accords, or a relation to a more general perfume category (scent-wise, that is?)
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    I applied some on piece of paper. It is very animalic and on my skin it got much sweeter and ambery than it was a little while ago. I smell a lot of musk on my skin. On paper, I guess I can smell some flowery notes, but not on my skin, at least not anymore.

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    You are off to a great start, DD! We'll hold off on confirming the details one way or another details until the other time zones kick in., but keep describing!
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    I think I know what it reminds me of. I do not have a sample of that particular perfume, so there is a small chance I actually know what it is. hmmm....

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    I absolutely love this one. I hope I am completely wrong and it is a very cheap drug store perfume. Because I want to buy about a liter of it!

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    You have a great nose, DD!

    [I fell in love with a perfume during a blind sniff, too. ]
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkdreams View Post
    I absolutely love this one. I hope I am completely wrong and it is a very cheap drug store perfume. Because I want to buy about a liter of it!
    LOL, that's what we'd like to hear! Blind sniff allows us to discover not only perfume hates, but also perfume loves.
    I can only repeat what N. said -- you're off to a great start, DD. <3
    Can you compare for us paper/skin performance for this perfume when it gets a chance to develop a bit more?

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    I sent in my first guess. It is the one reminds me of. Maybe it is just a twin sister...

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    ....
    Last edited by darkdreams; 20th February 2012 at 02:39 PM. Reason: too revealing:)

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    On my skin it is much sweeter and warm than on the paper (also it was applied a little earlier). On paper it is more sparkly and flowery. My sense of smell is a little bothered by the damn smoke.

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    Warum and I would like to congratulate darkdreams on what may be the fastest correct guess in blind sniff history!
    We will not reveal it on the board.

    Want to take a little break, get the others involved, and see how A2 plays in later? Or would you like to play with A2 now? We're flexible!
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    Well, just to make things clear. I recognized A, it was not exactly real guess. Because of the theme, I thought I might be wrong, but it actually was the one I had smelled before.
    I can take a break and wait for Haunani and meowmo. Our apartment stinks of smoke anyway...
    In case I did not say it enough: I love A!

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    Sounds good! I'll do a little work and check in again at 9 PST.
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    Default Re: February 2012 Blind Sniff

    Quote Originally Posted by Nostalgie View Post
    Sounds good! I'll do a little work and check in again at 9 PST.
    Same here! See ya soon!

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    Hi! I'm here. No word from MeowMo? Just going to read this morning's entries...

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    No, not a peep. I think Warum last heard from her when she sent her availability and her address for the samples.
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    Default Re: February 2012 Blind Sniff

    H., don't! don't read!
    Better apply A and tell us what you smell.
    Nope, we haven't heard from meowmo yet.

    Upd.: I've just PMed her again.

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    Good luck, Haunani! Hopefully meowmo will show up soon.
    I will go out for a little bit. But I should be back in a few hours and ready to sample A2.

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    Oops! I just read, sorry. But nothing given away except that our DD recognizes it. Wow! OK, will put A on. I've got to get rid of this little vase of Daphne odora blossoms that are sitting by my computer. Strong smell!

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    I have put in on paper. Yes, it's almost clear in color. Like DD, I like it immediately and have an impression of indie, niche, or quality designer. It smells unisex or slightly on the femme side, to me. It reminds me a little of two things I've tried (I actually have a mini of one of them, but will resist getting it out for comparison.

    This is too funny! My husband just brought me a cup of coffee and I held the paper strip up to his nose. He said, "It smells like bubblegum, tutti-frutti, not something for a grown woman." Ha ha! I think he's wrong this time, though there certainly is sweetness.

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    I now have A on skin. First impression: A floral amber. I *think* there's a warm citrus in the top: Bergamot? A touch of mandarin?

    Shall I mention the two fragrances it reminds me of here, or PM them to Nostalgie and Warum? I don't think it's the one I own in a mini, though it still reminds me of it, a bit.

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    Default Re: February 2012 Blind Sniff

    Funny!
    My husband often compares scents to bubblegum too.
    I take it, you don't get a candy or fruity vibe here

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    Right now, I don't think this is indie or niche. More likely designer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warum View Post
    Funny!
    My husband often compares scents to bubblegum too.
    I take it, you don't get a candy or fruity vibe here
    This is the same husband who identified asafoetida in that one sniff. I think he has a better nose than mine, but no I don't agree with him this morning. I don't get candy or fruit, no.

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    Sure, PM us!
    Or...well..since DD has it, and meowmo is not here...I think you can come right out and say names here o the board.
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    Default Re: February 2012 Blind Sniff

    So as for the names, PM us.

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    Can we confirm notes at all? Or do you want to re-group and start over for MeowMo? I hope she's OK!

    I'm not very good with my ambers/balsams. Tolu balsam? Labdanum? I think the base has vanilla and patchouli in it, but I haven't had it on my skin very long. So far it's fairly linear, rather than having distinct top and middle notes. I think. Could be older or modern – haven't decided that yet!

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    Default Re: February 2012 Blind Sniff

    Quote Originally Posted by Haunani View Post
    Can we confirm notes at all? Or do you want to re-group and start over for MeowMo? I hope she's OK!
    In a slow sniff we wait (reasonably) until everyone shows up and participates, generally, and then confirm notes.
    We'll play it by ear I guess.

    You've covered some ground already!

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    So some of what I said is on the right track? It will be hard to go much further without feedback from you guys, so I'll cool my heels a bit and check back.

    I'm enjoying this fragrance very much, and I'm revising my gender guess to "feminine." Besides amber(s), warm citrus, vanilla, and patchouli (?), I also will guess that this might have rose and sandalwood, possibly. And the sweet-nutty sort of vibe might mean benzoin???

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