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    Default Kouros Reformulation and Differences in Packaging

    Hello all. I just bought a new bottle of Kouros in the 3.3 oz. size. My old bottle, however, looks much different from the new one. The old one is on the left with the silver-trim on the bottle, and with the blueish font. The lettering on that bottle is rather thick.

    The new bottle on the right has no silver trim on the bottle, just the atomizer unit. Also, the font is a darker grey color, and is a little thinner.

    Both boxes are the same except for their placement of text - the old one has no text inside the box - the new one does. The ingredients lists are a little different also, with some extra things in the version I just bought. So it's been reformulated.

    Which is the new version, and which is the older version? I've only had the bottle on the left for two years.

    Thanks for your help.







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    The new bottle dont have that much metal parts to cut some costs.

    The smell still the same (the longevity too) if im not wrong.

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    Default Re: Kouros Reformulation and Differences in Packaging

    Never heard of any change in this scent either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d4N13L View Post
    The new bottle dont have that much metal parts to cut some costs.
    Surely that is not actually metal.
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    Default Re: Kouros Reformulation and Differences in Packaging

    It is actual metal.
    On the right is the new version.
    Sometime they just leave off ingredients that they are not required to print. there are many more ingredients in the formula than are shown on the box.
    Do they smell different?
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    Here's the picture of the original bottle from 80's. Note the placement of the texts.

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    Default Re: Kouros Reformulation and Differences in Packaging

    Quote Originally Posted by heperd View Post
    Do they smell different?
    A little.

    The one on the left has a stronger opening and I think there's a little more civet going on.

    The one on the right has a more muted opening, and seems to be a touch less "skanky."

    Otherwise, they smell the same.

    It should be noted that the bottle on the left is a few years old, and has had about 1 ounce of juice left in it for about seven months. I wouldn't be surprised if the perfume has aged a bit in there and seen some settling of materials, . . . I tend to find the last ounce or half ounce of a bottle smells stronger than the ounces that preceded it, and that goes for a lot of scents.

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    Default Re: Kouros Reformulation and Differences in Packaging

    Tried the "metal" (vintage) Kouros and the "enamel" (modern) one; and according to my nose I have honestly to admit that there are NOT so many differences.
    Still a very good scent.

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    As long as the juice is the same....rock on!

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    I've only tried the modern Kouros but I don't detect any civet. It smells dirty in its own way but I don't smell any fecal notes in this one.

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    the latest reformulation does not have powerfull projection as a Vintage version
    The good Kouros is dead, the latest reformulation is just a shadow from the original...sadly, very disappointed:

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    Default Re: Kouros Reformulation and Differences in Packaging

    Quote Originally Posted by Hovo View Post
    the latest reformulation does not have powerfull projection as a Vintage version
    The good Kouros is dead, the latest reformulation is just a shadow from the original...sadly, very disappointed:
    Are you sure they are different in the drydown?

    Reviews say the only difference is the top notes, but the drydown is identical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smellgood4u View Post
    Are you sure they are different in the drydown?

    Reviews say the only difference is the top notes, but the drydown is identical.
    they are smell same,but projection and longevity is weak on reformulated version ,the vintage version was projection and longevity Monster

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    Default Re: Kouros Reformulation and Differences in Packaging

    Lil help, guys.

    Any of you fragrance experts and historians know if this box looks authentic?

    And if it seems authentic, how old is this?

    (I only got this picture, nothing else. No back or bottom of the box pics, no bottle pics, yet. Hopefully soon.)

    Thanks in advance.

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    Default Re: Kouros Reformulation and Differences in Packaging

    looks legit... seems to be 80's or 90's box....
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    Default Re: Kouros Reformulation and Differences in Packaging

    Quote Originally Posted by lunchbox148 View Post
    looks legit... seems to be 80's or 90's box....
    Thanks for the reply.

    Yeah, looks solid, the only thing that doesnt feel 100% right is the "3.2 oz" mark.

    Seems like a different font, and usually it's 3.3 oz or 3.4 oz. printed on cologne boxes.

    Otherwise, the box does looks very good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulakenyo View Post
    Lil help, guys.

    Any of you fragrance experts and historians know if this box looks authentic?

    And if it seems authentic, how old is this?

    (I only got this picture, nothing else. No back or bottom of the box pics, no bottle pics, yet. Hopefully soon.)

    Thanks in advance.

    My advice: Do not buy this at this point. Andre Moreau covered the variations and there is no such thing as a 3.2 ounce bottle of the EdT:

    http://raidersofthelostscent.blogspo...f-gods-12.html

    I'd also refrain from buying splash bottles - someone claimed he had a fake A/S splash at one time and it looked very good (can't say that he was correct, but why take a chance?). Make sure you get good quality pictures of the bottle if you want to pursue this further (I wouldn't unless you can verify with an official retail outlet that the new bottles are 3.2). All 100 ml Kouros bottles seem to say 3.3 oz on the box and the only bottles that don't are the blank bottoms ones, which are rare and it still said 3.3 oz on the box). In the future, if you want the best advice, give us as much information as possible. For example, who is selling this? An ebay seller? A guy on Craigslist? A web site with a Bulgarian address?
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    Default Re: Kouros Reformulation and Differences in Packaging

    Hi. An update.

    I was not able to get the EDT, but the aftershave was available. 35 dollars including shipping.

    I said OK.

    Got this in the mail today. Took some pics.











    Anybody know what year this bottle is? 1992? Not sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    My advice: Do not buy this at this point. Andre Moreau covered the variations and there is no such thing as a 3.2 ounce bottle of the EdT:

    http://raidersofthelostscent.blogspo...f-gods-12.html

    I'd also refrain from buying splash bottles - someone claimed he had a fake A/S splash at one time and it looked very good (can't say that he was correct, but why take a chance?). Make sure you get good quality pictures of the bottle if you want to pursue this further (I wouldn't unless you can verify with an official retail outlet that the new bottles are 3.2). All 100 ml Kouros bottles seem to say 3.3 oz on the box and the only bottles that don't are the blank bottoms ones, which are rare and it still said 3.3 oz on the box). In the future, if you want the best advice, give us as much information as possible. For example, who is selling this? An ebay seller? A guy on Craigslist? A web site with a Bulgarian address?
    I agree that the "3.2 FL. OZ." marking is quite suspect, but I wonder if that is one of those transparent stickers they used to apply to the box after the fact to be able sell the product in a different market. Unfortunately, the photo is not clear/crisp enough to tell. I have boxes of a few other fragrances that have ingredients listed on such transparent stickers, possibly applied there, so that they can sell the product in a market that requires listing the ingredients. Andre's blog shows boxes from the 1981-1986 period that do not have ounce markings. So, my optimistic theory is that the "3.2 FL. OZ." marking is a transparent sticker applied to those boxes without the ounce marking, so that they can be sold in North America. The pessimistic theory, obviously, is that the box and the bottle inside are fakes.

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    Default Re: Kouros Reformulation and Differences in Packaging

    Thanks for the replies.

    I just want to ask, what's the difference between regular Kouros aftershave lotion and Kouros aftershave toner?

    I'm not sure, but I think they don't make the toner version nowadays.
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