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    Default L'Artisan warnings

    L'Artisan boxes come with warnings.

    "Do not use on children less than 30 months or age." Or something to that effect.

    Has anyone posted this before?
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    The last bottle of L'Artisan I bought Voleur de Roses does say on it.

    Do not use near fire flame or heat.
    Do not swallow.
    Do not vaporize towards eye or mucosa.
    Do not use for children under 30 months.
    Keep out of children's reach.

    So has there been a case of morons spraying babies with L'Artisan?
    Themselves in the eyes and up their noses?
    Lighting something with a naked flame and spray?
    Drinking the perfume?

    Now I do believe they have missed out:
    Do not spray on pets.

    Therefore have left themselves open to someone suing as the sprayed pet bird,cat,dog, goldfish etc.
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    Default Re: L'Artisan warnings

    I have not seen any post on this before.

    I do not think it is a good idea to use perfume on kid & I think no one in their right mind would spray fragrance on children.

    But what is the harm to the young ones ? Allergy ? Lose sence of smell ?


    Basically, the warning is to prevent sueing from the 'innocent' customers.

    It is the same as putting "Warning : it's hot" on a cup of hot coffee.
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    Default Re: L'Artisan warnings

    Le Labo and Bvlgari make perfumes that are baby-safe(friendly?).

    I think they are sans alcohol or something.
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    Guerlain also made a perfume for babies. What a strange world, baby smell is the best smell ever and meant to be, it's how we bond. Now if someone made a scent that smells like the top of a baby's head it would be a runaway success
    Last edited by Alityke; 26th February 2012 at 04:38 PM.

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    Default Re: L'Artisan warnings

    The baby scents I've seen are all reminiscent of that clean baby smell. Mustella's Musti, for instance is quite nice, baby powdery clean, baby skin scent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donna255 View Post
    so has there been a case of morons spraying babies with l'artisan?
    Themselves in the eyes and up their noses?
    Lighting something with a naked flame and spray?
    Drinking the perfume?

    Now i do believe they have missed out:
    Do not spray on pets.

    Therefore have left themselves open to someone suing as the sprayed pet bird,cat,dog, goldfish etc.
    lol!

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    Default Re: L'Artisan warnings

    Quote Originally Posted by donna255 View Post
    Now I do believe they have missed out:
    Do not spray on pets.

    Therefore have left themselves open to someone suing as the sprayed pet bird,cat,dog, goldfish etc.
    Well, our poo-mix only uses Kenzo Power or dead squirrel. And not necessarily in that order.
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    Default Re: L'Artisan warnings

    I once watched a woman douse a 3 year old and 5 year old in Raid. She thought it would keep the mosquitos away.

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    Default Re: L'Artisan warnings

    No big deal.

    On the other hand there's nothing like a little fear to increase sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wit_Siamese View Post
    I have not seen any post on this before.

    I do not think it is a good idea to use perfume on kid & I think no one in their right mind would spray fragrance on children.

    But what is the harm to the young ones ? Allergy ? Lose sence of smell ?


    Basically, the warning is to prevent sueing from the 'innocent' customers.

    It is the same as putting "Warning : it's hot" on a cup of hot coffee.
    Like buying a bag of almonds, with 'warning: contains nuts' on the back of the packet...

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    Fragrant materials can cause allergies which is only one of the reasons why (in the EU) there are more restrictions on the contents of baby soaps, powders and creams than there are for adults.

    If mothers realized, that their baby recognizes them by the particular smell of their milk and the breasts that feed them, they might perhaps see how irritating commercial smells must be for the little ones. Perfumes for children - that's sick.
    'Il mondo dei profumi è un universo senza limiti: una fraganza puo rievocare sensazioni, luoghi, persone o ancora condurre in uno spazio di nuove dimensioni emozionali' L. V.

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    The Spanish have been perfuming children with baby cologne to fight the mozzies for decades. I haven't noticed an increase in Spanish allergies or asthmatic problems.

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    And how many decades have you been watching 'Spanish allergies', Professor Mumsy?
    Last edited by narcus; 28th February 2012 at 03:20 PM.
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    Default Re: L'Artisan warnings

    Quote Originally Posted by Alityke View Post
    Guerlain also made a perfume for babies. What a strange world, baby smell is the best smell ever and meant to be, it's how we bond. Now if someone made a scent that smells like the top of a baby's head it would be a runaway success

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    Quote Originally Posted by donna255 View Post
    The last bottle of L'Artisan I bought Voleur de Roses does say on it.

    Do not use near fire flame or heat.
    Do not swallow.
    Do not vaporize towards eye or mucosa.
    Do not use for children under 30 months.
    Keep out of children's reach.

    So has there been a case of morons spraying babies with L'Artisan?
    Themselves in the eyes and up their noses?
    Lighting something with a naked flame and spray?
    Drinking the perfume?

    Now I do believe they have missed out:
    Do not spray on pets.

    Therefore have left themselves open to someone suing as the sprayed pet bird,cat,dog, goldfish etc.
    The company Dog Generation made Oh, My Dog! which is made specifically for dogs and approved by veterinarians. You spray your hands or dog brush and then apply to the dog--you never spray directly on the dog. Our dogs have made no comment as to whether they like this floral aquatic or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wit_Siamese View Post
    I have not seen any post on this before.

    I do not think it is a good idea to use perfume on kid & I think no one in their right mind would spray fragrance on children.

    But what is the harm to the young ones ? Allergy ? Lose sence of smell ?


    Basically, the warning is to prevent sueing from the 'innocent' customers.

    It is the same as putting "Warning : it's hot" on a cup of hot coffee.
    LOL!

    Quote Originally Posted by hedonist222 View Post
    Le Labo and Bvlgari make perfumes that are baby-safe(friendly?).

    I think they are sans alcohol or something.
    I think Cartier makes perfume for "les petits et mamans." (Infants and mothers.) I saw this the other day. EDIT: I think this is the Bulgari scent mentioned by Hedonist above.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alityke View Post
    Guerlain also made a perfume for babies. What a strange world, baby smell is the best smell ever and meant to be, it's how we bond. Now if someone made a scent that smells like the top of a baby's head it would be a runaway success
    I think L'Occitane also makes a Bonne Mere line, too. ("Good Mother") Origins also had a line for babies.

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    I once watched a woman douse a 3 year old and 5 year old in Raid. She thought it would keep the mosquitos away.
    Scary, but I believe it...

    Quote Originally Posted by Trebor View Post
    Like buying a bag of almonds, with 'warning: contains nuts' on the back of the packet...
    ROTFL!
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    Default Re: L'Artisan warnings

    man i accidentally hit my mucosa and eye this morning with my Etro Vetiver. if only there was a warning on that bottle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by narcus View Post
    And how many decades have you been watching 'Spanish allergies', Professor Mumsy?
    As an adjunct professor here at the University of Tennessee Space Institute, Dr. Mumsy has utilized our Cray Research Model 1 supercomputer to model Infant Olfactory Cognitive Recognition for Smell Association (I-Fart) studies that otherwise would take as you say 'decades' to render statistical calculations. In three separate trial runs of the model, results proven were the same with a standard deviation of +/- 0.001 percent tolerance. With each run taking approximately 12.25 machine hours.

    So there you have it.

    Next simulation we will be attempting with a probable inconclusive result is to determine what is in the water which yields a superiority complex in the human populous in your region. Would you care to participate in our research study. We compensate usually on the order of 25USD per hour, however, in your case we may be able to double that figure since you are twice as arrogant.

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    9 year study - pediatric dermatology Hospital General Universitario de Valencia in Spain
    http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retri...78219010707150

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip6sz3xorFo

    Are we off topic?
    Last edited by mumsy; 28th February 2012 at 09:09 PM.

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    OK, new attempt...

    @ mumsy :
    In my post( #12) I hinted on two arguments in support of L’Artisans warning not to use perfume "on children less than 30 months of age”. It wasn’t obvious then and still isn’t now: Wouldn't the results of the Valencia study actually support the idea that perfumes/colognes used on small children (less than 60 months of age) can be harmful ??

    Quote Originally Posted by mumsy View Post
    The Spanish have been perfuming children with baby cologne to fight the mozzies for decades. I haven't noticed an increase in Spanish allergies or asthmatic problems.
    N..... Agua de Colonia
    The fact that you have not noticed an increase in allergies or asthmatic problems is meant to say exactly what ? To me it only indicates that ‘Baby Colognes’ can be about as harmless or detrimental as traditional Aguas de Lavanda/Colonia... have always been.

    Can't resist: Does Spanish Baby Cologne actually kiill mosquitoes or will it just put them to sleep ?
    Last edited by narcus; 29th February 2012 at 12:03 PM.
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    It's actually ok. I wasn't being serious at the time, just joining in the line of play. So actually yes, you are right and it does, but I would imagine no more than any fragranced washing powder or vanilla impregnated plastic dolls (yes they do) or fragranced nappy creams that any infant is bombarded with on a daily basis. I am pro the baby here as I have three myself.

    We lived in Spain when I was small and I just always associated cologne with baby stuff just as the Johnsons baby lotion smell is associated here. I think the Baby cologne is to repel in the way citronella does.

    Did you know that real manly soldiers actually use Avon Skin so soft oil to repel mosquitoes and it works? The instructions do not say use it for that.

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    Well kinda common sense right!

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    Default Re: L'Artisan warnings

    Quote Originally Posted by mumsy View Post
    Did you know that real manly soldiers actually use Avon Skin so soft oil to repel mosquitoes and it works? The instructions do not say use it for that.
    I read an article in Consumer Reports a half dozen or so years ago in which mosquito repellents were tested. They included Avon Skin So Soft bath oil in the testing because of its popular use as a mosquito repellent, but it failed to keep the mosquitos off the test subjects' arms and was "Not Recommended."

    But Avon does sell an actual insect repellent spray labeled as such under its SSS range.

    Edit: Here is Snopes on use of home remedies for mosquitoes, including Avon SSS-- seems my memory of "a half dozen years or so" was waaaay off-- the study was actually done in 1993! Time flies....
    http://www.snopes.com/oldwives/skeeters.asp
    Last edited by 30 Roses; 1st March 2012 at 11:01 AM.

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    Interesting article. Our family have always used it against mozzies because my mum has always sworn by it and doesn't get bitten. It must work either as a faith repellant or their test mosquitoes were starving. I may try an experiment for myself with two arms next time I am near a mozzie farm. It certainly works on childrens head lice but that may be just the fine oil quality!
    Count that as an anti chemical top tip all mums.

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    Default Re: L'Artisan warnings

    I just have to ask this: Why would someone spray perfume on their baby?

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    To kill the traces of the liqueur and fine cigars, Silly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexjustdoit View Post
    I just have to ask this: Why would someone spray perfume on their baby?
    The possibilities for dead baby jokes here are multitudinous

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    For the same reasons people put khol on the eyes of their children. Keeps the flies off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mumsy View Post
    For the same reasons people put khol on the eyes of their children. Keeps the flies off.
    I don't think Kohl is a fly deterrent.
    Take a look at pictures of Pakistani and Indian children being swarmed by flies and they have kohl on.
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    I quite agree with you, I wasn't being clear. I meant the 'reason for doing it' is the belief that it does.

    There is loads of interesting stuff in this article.

    http://www.copperwiki.org/index.php?title=Kohl

    All I mean is that different cultures may have reasons that are beyond our own habits. We might find it awful to spray babies with cologne or to even consider putting make up on them but other cultures may feel they are neglectful if they don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mumsy View Post

    All I mean is that different cultures may have reasons that are beyond our own habits. We might find it awful to spray babies with cologne or to even consider putting make up on them but other cultures may feel they are neglectful if they don't.
    You are most correct.
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    There have been some reports that the molecule(s?) that provide a lavender scent, once absorbed, can mimic the estrogen hormone in humans. It has been specifically recommended not to use lavender scented products (bath products, scents, shampoos, etc) on children due to their greater surface area to body ratio (more surface for absorbing and then higher blood concentration than would happen in a larger adult).

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    Do you think they mean real lavender or just lavender scents made of synthetics in that report?

    I ask, because in aromatherapy, Lavender is used as the most common healing oil and deemed suitably mild for many applications.

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