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    Thumbs down New Haarlem -- Most Overrated Fragrance

    I am just stunned.

    Stunned at just how overrated and bad this fragrance is, and perplexed at the frag heads and reviews it's received here and among the afore mentioned frag aficionados.

    I got New Haarlem in the mail today and extremely disappointed. It just smells cheap and terrible- exactly like a $5 meal of IHOP pancakes loaded with maple syrup, or creme brulee, or custard. It does not smell like class, like Tobacco Vanille, which I own.

    NH is showered with positive reviews and it's gourmand quality, and I imagined something like TV. What I got out of it was terrible, terrible, terrible. I do not want to smell like maple syrup. I can just buy a bottle of maple syrup and smell like NH.

    I simply cannot FATHOM how anyone can appreciate this "fragrance." My Trader Joe's Oatmeal and Honey soap, costing all of $1.69, is heavenly compared to the syrupy, dirty smell of NH. (I would definitely buy a scent that smelled like the TJ Oatmeal and Honey soap, now that's a gourmand smell I like) It is like there's some huge joke going on.

    I LOVE TV, I own L'Air Du Desert Marocain, and love the fresh Creed scents ( Aventus , SMW, MI). The only reaction you can get from NH is ... 'Did you eat pancakes ?'

    Question(s) to NH owners or supporters :

    1) Why not just buy a bottle of maple syrup ?

    2) Why do you want to smell like pancakes ? The scent is a turn-off, people will think you forgot to wash your hands.

    3) What do you use it for ? The smell itself is crap. Doesn't matter how cold it is, it just smells like cheap syrup.

    4) Is there some kind of Reality Distortion Field (RDF) I'm unaware of, akin to the Apple RDF ? Do you know what a pancake and syrup tastes like ?

    Lessons learned ? Try before you buy. Second lesson - Read the negative reviews carefully and take note of them.

    N.B -- Gave the bottle to my cousin, not for sale.
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    I agree that it's overrated, to me it just kind of smells like coffee and chocolate. But you need to calm down lol. You kind of just jumped to the conclusion that everyone else is dumb and you're the only smart one. Not trying to put you down at all, but you could've just said "New Haarlem is overrated, what does everyone else think".

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    I don't get any coffee out of it.

    I am going to go buy a few brands of maple syrup at Ralph's and say which one it smells closest to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icanzapyou View Post
    I agree that it's overrated, to me it just kind of smells like coffee and chocolate. But you need to calm down lol. You kind of just jumped to the conclusion that everyone else is dumb and you're the only smart one. Not trying to put you down at all, but you could've just said "New Haarlem is overrated, what does everyone else think".
    If i just said that, it'd be kind of boring.

    I like debate and I am furious with every individual who gave it a positive review. I would have choice words and give mean looks to anyone involved in hyping this maple syrup brand .

    Bond No 9 "New Maple Syrup"

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    You are "furious" with people who gave it a positive review???

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    I reckon the reviews were mostly made by Bond employees or an outside contracted agency hired by Bond to hype the product online.

    I can still smell it on my hand. Need to take a shower and put on some Tobacco Vanille.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icanzapyou View Post
    I agree that it's overrated, to me it just kind of smells like coffee and chocolate. But you need to calm down lol. You kind of just jumped to the conclusion that everyone else is dumb and you're the only smart one. Not trying to put you down at all, but you could've just said "New Haarlem is overrated, what does everyone else think".
    Nah, I think strong opinions are good, even if their negative. That's how he feels, why should he moderate what he says - is the fragrance going to be offended? If any people are offended by someone not liking a fragrance you like.. well, they simply need to grow a thicker skin, or better yet, respond with rebuttals to the complaints.

    I have to agree that I don't get the love for this scent at all. It's a sweet gourmand, but it's so crudely obvious with its intentions. It's a fragrance that 'gives it up' on the first date. Enjoyable, in some superficial way I guess, but hard to respect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by themoogle View Post
    If i just said that, it'd be kind of boring.

    I like debate and I am furious with every individual who gave it a positive review. I would have choice words and give mean looks to anyone involved in hyping this maple syrup brand .

    Bond No 9 "New Maple Syrup"
    I stand by what I said in my previous post, but that bolded bit above is a bit over the top, though. You should be furious for yourself for blind buying it, perhaps. People like what they like and it's not like they were out to intentionally deceive you.
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    OP has zero taste. Go back to Bleu!
    My top 16:

    1. Joop! - Homme 2. Puredistance - M
    3. Tom Ford - Tobacco vanille 4. Tom Ford - Neroli portofino
    5. Tauer - L'air de desert marocaine 6. Armani Privé - Ambre orient
    7. Bond - Harrod's oud 8. Amouage - Jubilation XXV
    9. Parf. Brückner - Aoud 1 10. Clive Christian - X
    11.Xerjoff - Regio 12. Lush - Breath of God
    13. M.Micaleff - Art collec. 102 14. Armani Privé - Figuier eden
    15. Nasomatto - Pardon 16. Heeley - Oranges and lemons ...

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    People were talking about a coffee element to it, but there is no coffee smell in it at all.

    Does NOT smell like a 'coffee shop' like some reviewers claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrAndySais View Post
    OP has zero taste. Go back to Bleu!
    That's interesting, because I own 3 & 5 (TV and L'Air) of your top 16 and enjoy them.

    Thus .. ergo ... if I have no taste ... (complete the sentence)

    Also, you must not have maple syrup in Germany .. hence, new olfactory experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SculptureOfSoul View Post
    Nah, I think strong opinions are good, even if their negative. That's how he feels, why should he moderate what he says - is the fragrance going to be offended? If any people are offended by someone not liking a fragrance you like.. well, they simply need to grow a thicker skin, or better yet, respond with rebuttals to the complaints.

    I have to agree that I don't get the love for this scent at all. It's a sweet gourmand, but it's so crudely obvious with its intentions. It's a fragrance that 'gives it up' on the first date. Enjoyable, in some superficial way I guess, but hard to respect.
    No totally I agree that he can say whatever he wants, but tbh I'm a little surprised anyone would be so incensed by this. But hey, freedom of speech, Amurica man

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    You do not see why someone would be incensed at a 120 buck cologne smelling like 3 buck maple syrup ?

    sheesh.

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    I say to each of his own. I personally haven't smelled NH but from the association with Rochas Man, I don't think I will like it. Fragrances are very subjective and my only advice for you is do not believe the hype and buy blind, especially expensive niche

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    Well.....ummmmm....Welcome to Basenotes!!
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    All kidding aside - Don't blind buy (on the basis of reviews) if you're going to overreact like this.
    I'm sure there are some perfumes that have high ratings that you don't like. Why should it be any different for NH?

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    Obvious troll is obvious

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    Come at me breh.

    Real talk ... a lot of the reviews are just inaccurate and plain deceptive.

    I blind bought Aventus, TV, and L'Air, all slam dunks and good to go. I just sent some death threats to hiro and some Youtube guys hyping NH (the Bronx dude?) and ordered lots of pizza to their homes.

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    I'm not trolling, that's my actual opinion.

    Wit and dry humor does not equate to troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themoogle View Post
    Real talk ... a lot of the reviews are just inaccurate and plain deceptive.
    Well, scents are very subjective, IMO. People can easily have different views on the same fragrance. You say a lot of reviews/comments are inaccurate -- why is yours "better" or more accurate?

    In the end, stats will prevail - if the majority says that they liked it and that it smelled like "coffee", am I more likely to believe the minority who said it didn't? Probably not.
    Does this mean I'll undoubtedly "like" the smell, and get coffee out of it? No, because stats don't mean anything on the individual level. It's just a probability.

    Don't blind buy, if you can't handle the disappointment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themoogle View Post
    You do not see why someone would be incensed at a 120 buck cologne smelling like 3 buck maple syrup ?

    sheesh.
    Well no man but I feel like it's a given that this is your opinion and that's it. I agree with you in a lot of ways but I don't feel the need to be a raging asshole about it (no offense), nor do I put down other people who disagree. Don't get me wrong, I think it's cool that you're expressing your opinions. Anyway peace out.

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    I honestly am not putting anyone down, no one even came here and explained why they like the scent.

    I am really just trying to figure out what anyone can see in it. It doesn't even smell like a fragrance at all.

    Even $20 cheap scents, 90% alcohol and synthetic as hell, as least smell more like fragrances.

    I don't consider the smell of maple syrup a fragrance ... would you wear a cologne that smells like curry ?

    I'll eat pancakes and syrup once every blue moon, and curry more often, but I don't want to SMELL like it, just eat it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themoogle View Post
    would you wear a cologne that smells like curry ?
    You should try Fareb from Huitième Art.

    Except that, i really don't like New Haarlem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themoogle View Post
    I reckon the reviews were mostly made by Bond employees or an outside contracted agency hired by Bond to hype the product online.

    I can still smell it on my hand. Need to take a shower and put on some Tobacco Vanille.
    LOL. Never knew that I was subconsciously working for Bond No 9. Perhaps I should ask for a pay rise.

    Like what others have said, don't blind buy if you can't handle the disappointment. There are numerous opportunities to buy a split or a sample vial either from Basenotes Sales forum, or from reputable online shops. First In Fragrance is one such place.

    And erm, welcome to Basenotes lol.

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    I find Rochas Man to be more to my taste than New Haarlem.

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    Same for me.

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    Another overrated American fragrance on Basenotes (Dirty English, Michael for men, Safari, Tommy Girl..), you don't say? *takes troll hat off*

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    Default Re: New Haarlem -- Most Overrated Fragrance

    I picked up a sample and thought it was overrated too, I liked it but didn't care enough for it to buy a whole bottle. That was until I saw a 50ml bottle at bargain price which I couldn't turn down; once I'd worn it a few times I grew to love it, and I've received nothing but compliments from those around me, one woman in particular going crazy for it. Not my favourite fragrance, but a very good scent nonetheless.

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    Some people prefer unbalanced to balanced frags, and vice versa. Some people like sweet frags but not dry ones, and vice versa. It's important to figure out what you like and don't (by sampling) before you spend a lot, unless you're rich and don't care. There is "hype" for certain frags here at BN, but that's to be expected, as certain frags are the "stars" for at least a while, just like a reality show can start with "nobodies" and some of them become "celebrities." I tend to blame myself rather than others in this kind of situation, saying myself, "I knew there was a lot of hype over this one, and it may not be anything special." When you think like that, the world is a let less frustrating place! Also, I've posted about NH having that lavender/gourmand quality that I find really unappealing, so don't say you everyone here said it's great. LOL.

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    Default Re: New Haarlem -- Most Overrated Fragrance

    Quote Originally Posted by themoogle View Post
    I'm not trolling, that's my actual opinion.

    Wit and dry humor does not equate to troll.
    Nothing witty or humorous about it. More like a childish anger fit.
    People perceive the notes of a fragrance differently and it will always be a personal and subjective experience to smell a fragrance.
    Instead of being angry at the reviewers, you should look inwards since you bought without sampling. Blind buying is hit and miss, and will always carry a risk. You have to accept and live with the risk or stop blind buying.

    I blind buy a lot myself and if I do not like the fragrance - c'est la vie. I move on and bash myself a bit for blind buying since I TOOK THE RISK. That's my opinion anyway.
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