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    Default Rose 31 doesnt smell the same

    I wanted to see if anyone else has had this experience. I have a decant from a 500ml flacon that i purchased back in May, and it smelt great and i went through it recently. So i decided to buy a full bottle, which i did roughly 8 weeks ago and i can honestly tell you the new bottle doesn't last at all or project. My original decant which i still have roughly 10-15ml left is much stronger.

    I'm just confused, if they use the same "recipe" which is all made by an employeee at the store, how can these smell so different. I'm really annoyed.

    One thing i did notice, is the le labo sprayer doesn't really kick out that much juice, and my decant has a much better spray, so maybe i'm getting more juice out of my sprays?

    Just smelling each from the sprayer, you can notice a difference in scent.

    Feel like i may have just waisted 150 bucks

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    Default Re: Rose 31 doesnt smell the same

    it's the sprayer.

    The fragrance smells the exact same as my sample. I just got a bottle via trade here that was made in December. The sprayer shoots like 1/4 of a Creed spray. The juice is good though, just spray more.

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    Default Re: Rose 31 doesnt smell the same

    I've already heard this story on some LeLabos a couple of times in the past few days. Hedonist is complaining that Patchouli 24 is tamer than it used to be (is it correct Hedonist?), another friend of mine returned a full bottle of Poivre 23 because he said it was much MORE tamer than the decant he used to own...hmmm, what's happening?


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    Diluting to save $?

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    I just got in on a Baie Rose split. I'm praying that i don't have this same issue...fk!

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    I wonder if there is something to that rumour that Le labo create their fragrances to degrade on purpose after the expiry date they place on their bottles for repeat business. Surely not.
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    I've heard that le labo fragrances need time to "mature" and get better over time. So i wonder if that experation date holds any value.

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    It is not a strange case for inconsistency of Le Labo fragrances, I remember this issue was discussed a while ago on youtube. The hypothesis is that the quality is different because the juice is composed by different people and sometimes inexperience SA

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    Default Re: Rose 31 doesnt smell the same

    I think I have the same problem but need further testing to make sure.

    A good friend gave me a decant of Rose 31 and I like it a lot. So I joined a split. When it came in a I eagerly spray it, it smelled predominantly of incense. The juice from my friend's decant was a balanced scent of cumin, rose and a little incense to make it deeper. I'm guessing each shop's employees will mix them differently, and a small variation in material leads to big change in the scent itself.

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    Default Re: Rose 31 doesnt smell the same

    Quote Originally Posted by DNT View Post
    I'm guessing each shop's employees will mix them differently, and a small variation in material leads to big change in the scent itself.
    I think you're right about that.

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    Yes alfarom. I feel my p24 to be too restrained. I'll pass by the boutique soon just to confirm. But my iris and rose are just fine. Same with my sisters Le labos.
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    My rose 31 " expired " last may and I swear it has gotten way better over time ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pour_Monsieur View Post
    My rose 31 " expired " last may and I swear it has gotten way better over time ???
    And this is what i've heard and am hoping for!

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    Default Re: Rose 31 doesnt smell the same

    I hope mine ages well too.

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    Default Re: Rose 31 doesnt smell the same

    Quote Originally Posted by Pour_Monsieur View Post
    My rose 31 " expired " last may and I swear it has gotten way better over time ???
    Mine seems to be pulling itself together into something more cohesive as it gets older, if that makes any sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DNT View Post
    I think I have the same problem but need further testing to make sure.

    A good friend gave me a decant of Rose 31 and I like it a lot. So I joined a split. When it came in a I eagerly spray it, it smelled predominantly of incense. The juice from my friend's decant was a balanced scent of cumin, rose and a little incense to make it deeper. I'm guessing each shop's employees will mix them differently, and a small variation in material leads to big change in the scent itself.
    I seriously doubt they are mixing oils, just diluting them so I think all that could vary would be the concentration, and that only by a tiny amount.

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    You are supposed to let frags sit for 4-6 weeks after diluting them with alcohol... I don't understand Le Labo's deal with freshness and having an expiration date...

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    I have tried multiple samples from The Perfumed Court only to go on a roller coaster ride of longevity to purchase a full bottle which surprisingly enough seems to have gotten better over time?
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    Default Re: Rose 31 doesnt smell the same

    I thought the expiration date was a gimmick. If it's real, I better hurry.
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    I just got a 45 ml decant of this from a fellow basenoter. I believe it was a new 500ml bottle that just got in. I have no issues with longevity and the stuff smells great. I will buy a bottle after its gone for sure...hopefully it smells the same though.

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    Default Re: Rose 31 doesnt smell the same

    Quote Originally Posted by jamwires View Post
    it's the sprayer.

    The fragrance smells the exact same as my sample. I just got a bottle via trade here that was made in December. The sprayer shoots like 1/4 of a Creed spray. The juice is good though, just spray more.
    So the sprayer on the full bottles are crap?

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    Default Re: Rose 31 doesnt smell the same

    Le Labo employees do not mix the perfume. They just add the alcohol.

    I also do not believe they are using cheaper ingredients or diluting the juice. Patchouli 24 is using a new cade oil, and they were very forthcoming about it. I only sniffed the previous version a few times, but the smokiness in the new version is still uncompromising to the point that my coworker found it almost shocking.

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    I decanted some of my juice into a bottle with a good sprayer, just to see if the issue was amount of juice, since 3-4 sprays on the le labo bottle and my other decant are not equivalent. Yes, i could of just sprayed more from the bottle, but i wanted to compare apples to apples. I did 4 sprays, 2 mid chest one back of the neck and just one on my forearm to check it throughout the day. So far i'm 2 hours still can detect it, however the smell just isn't as rich, but its there. I purchased this over 2-3 months ago, but i'll let it sit even longer to see if it gets better over time.

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    I would take it back to Le Labo and ask them what's up. You've done more than enough at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Chambers View Post
    I would take it back to Le Labo and ask them what's up. You've done more than enough at this point.
    I'm not sure If that's an option since I purchased this back in January I believe it was, and online since I'm not local to any le labo store. Not sure if I can contact them with decent dent on the juice and it being 3 months ago to get a replacement.

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    Default Re: Rose 31 doesnt smell the same

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Chambers View Post
    I would take it back to Le Labo and ask them what's up. You've done more than enough at this point.
    Quote Originally Posted by persianprince View Post
    I'm not sure If that's an option since I purchased this back in January I believe it was, and online since I'm not local to any le labo store. Not sure if I can contact them with decent dent on the juice and it being 3 months ago to get a replacement.
    I agree with Brian here, but since it's not an option like you've mention, how about calling them?

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    I just called and they directed me to email the individual in charge of quality controll.

    I have her email and will send one tonight to her. I am even considering providing the link to this thread, so they can see others have similiar experiences and I'm not crazy

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    Default Re: Rose 31 doesnt smell the same

    it never hurts to ask, and Le Labo strikes me as the sort of company that would care about this. I will be disappointed if they don't respond to you.

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    I've been coming across various stories of inconsistencies myself. It's not encouraging.

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