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    Default Dzongkha, Dzing! or Timbuktu?

    Looking for another fragrance along the lines of L'Air Du Desert Marocain--dry, dusty, and a little strange. Something that evokes sun-baked climates in far-off places, exotic spices, and musty libraries with esoteric texts. You know...that kind of thing.

    I sort of have it narrowed down to the 3 mentioned in the title of this thread, but any other recommendations are welcome as well. At the moment, I'm leaning toward Dzongkha, but I'm curious to hear your opinions.

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    Default Re: Dzongkha, Dzing! or Timbuktu?

    Have and love all three in your title. My preference is for Dzongkha. Can't go wrong with that IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hednic View Post
    Have and love all three in your title. My preference is for Dzongkha. Can't go wrong with that IMO.
    Thanks, Hednic. Always appreciate your advice!

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    Default Re: Dzongkha, Dzing! or Timbuktu?

    Far-off places and exotic spices prompts me to recommend Comme des Garçons Jaisalmer, which ushered me back into my fragrance obsession. It's a beautiful spiced incense. From among your choices, though, I'd also go with Dzongkha, particularly since you're looking for dusty and a little strange. (Timbuktu is beautiful but not particularly strange. It's very similar to CdG Kyoto, by the way -- both by Duchaufour.)

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    Default Re: Dzongkha, Dzing! or Timbuktu?

    I actually reviewed Dzongkha today here.
    I'm not a massive fan, but if you like it then go for it. It's the fragrance that most accurately fits your description. But I don't find it exotic or spicy, theyre two words I wouldn't use at all.
    onethinline's mention of Jaisalmer is a great choice!
    Have you tried Tauer's other offering: Eau D'Epices?
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    Default Re: Dzongkha, Dzing! or Timbuktu?

    Dzing for me

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    Dzing! > Timbuktu > Dzongkha
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    Default Re: Dzongkha, Dzing! or Timbuktu?

    Although Dzing! is one of my current favorites, I don't think it meets what you are seeking in a fragrance. Of the three.....I would choose Dzongkha for you. I have not tried Timbuktu.

    But please, try out Dzing! when you can. Great scent. But somewhat polarizing.
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    Default Re: Dzongkha, Dzing! or Timbuktu?

    Thanks for all the help so far!

    @onethinline...I'll definitely look into Jaisalmer. It's funny, I've looked into the CDG incense series before and that's the one that I can't remember ever hearing about, but it sounds like what I'm looking for.

    @forfreddie....Great review, and great blog. I look forward to following it. Dzongkha seems to very much fit what I'm looking for. But I'll have to put it up against Jaisalmer now as well.

    @surfacing...Dzing! sounds very weird, I have to check it out now.


    Thanks!

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    ...you should try them all...!
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    Default Re: Dzongkha, Dzing! or Timbuktu?

    Have all three. my favorites from L'AP.

    I won't describe them as you can find excellent reviews of them online but I will say they are different enough to justify owning all three. I like them equally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buysblind View Post
    @forfreddie....Great review, and great blog. I look forward to following it. Dzongkha seems to very much fit what I'm looking for. But I'll have to put it up against Jaisalmer now as well.
    Thanks!
    Thank YOU for the kind words.
    Dzongkha and Jaisalmer are completely different.
    Dzongkha is a wonderfully unique fragrance, but as hedonist says above, they are 3 completely different scents you have chosen.
    If I'm honest, the wonderful opening of Dzing! doesn't persist enough and the drydown is a hay/vanilla which is extremely quiet.
    There are MUCH better leathers out there, and considering Dzing! is available only in a 100ml bottle, the novelty of the opening shortly wears off (Dzing! was my first niche purchase)

    If you are blindbuying a bottle, look into every other option, whilst these 3 are good choices, there are other GREAT choices out there. But then again, this is my mentality as I have a small collection, if yours is much more substantial then don't let me influence you at all any of them would be a great contribution.

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    Default Re: Dzongkha, Dzing! or Timbuktu?

    Quote Originally Posted by hedonist222 View Post
    Have all three. my favorites from L'AP.

    I won't describe them as you can find excellent reviews of them online but I will say they are different enough to justify owning all three. I like them equally.
    Agree! I tend to wear Dzing! when it's hot, Timbuktu when it's cold and for sleeping and Dzonghka whenever else I want.
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    lot of L'Artisan experts here. what do you think about Piment Brulent..just be brutally honest..this one gets lot of bashing

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    Default Re: Dzongkha, Dzing! or Timbuktu?

    I also like Dzing! the best of the three suggested, and find it to last well and be very original (barely a leather to my nose), then Timbuktu, and never liked Dzongkha (which I found simply astringent and irritating). None of them ideally evoke the dry, dusty, aged character of LAdDM though. Definitely try before buy. Piment Brulant smells on my skin like I've been rubbed in green peppers, not very appealing, although it took on a spicy character when my ex wore it that probably makes it worth a sniff for some people. If you're looking for a L'Artisan fragrance, consider Safran Troublant.

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    Timbuktu > Dzing! > >>>> > Dzongkha

    Have them all 3. Dont like Dzongkha very much.

    Timbuktu and Dzing! amazing !

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    Quote Originally Posted by docluv45 View Post
    I also like Dzing! the best of the three suggested, and find it to last well and be very original (barely a leather to my nose), then Timbuktu, and never liked Dzongkha (which I found simply astringent and irritating). None of them ideally evoke the dry, dusty, aged character of LAdDM though. Definitely try before buy. Piment Brulant smells on my skin like I've been rubbed in green peppers, not very appealing, although it took on a spicy character when my ex wore it that probably makes it worth a sniff for some people. If you're looking for a L'Artisan fragrance, consider Safran Troublant.
    safran definitely seems better but the only problem is the deal i am getting on piment brulant which is too tempting..about $31 total for 1.7 oz brand new bottle (vintage version)

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    Default Re: Dzongkha, Dzing! or Timbuktu?

    Dzongka is probably the one that best satisfies your requirements. Though I prefer the other two; Timbuktu is less resiny incensy. Dzing! is not in the style at all - it's a wonderful animalic leather.

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    dzing is really good but if you cant afford it, get bvlgari black..pretty good substitute

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    Balsamo della Mecca from La Via del Profumo (www.profumo.it) might be a good one to check out. I haven't tried his new Sharif yet but that one might also fit the bill.

    The three l'Artisans are all good, but none of them are along the same lines as L'Air or evoke the image you mention. Maybe the dryness of Timbuktu but there is no amber / oriental thing going on. Dzongkha has more of a damp, chilly iris thing happening - miles away from a desert vibe. Dzing is the friendliest of the three - not austere at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ace11 View Post
    Timbuktu > Dzing! > >>>> > Dzongkha

    Have them all 3. Dont like Dzongkha very much.

    Timbuktu and Dzing! amazing !
    +1

    These 3 are all very different.
    For me, Timbuktu is the most wearable, if a bit 'dressy/formal' smelling.
    Dzing! is the most interesting/unusual, but harder to wear (maybe even 'Not Safe For Work')
    Dzongkha is interesting and nice, but goes 'off' quickly on my skin and takes on an unpleasant 'sour/sticky' aspect, like leftover Chinese food.

    Dzongkha is often compared to L'Air du Desert Marocain (not sure why--the similarity is conceptual at best), but Marocain is far better and easier to wear.

    All that said, if I were going to recommend a trio of L'Artisans to someone wanting the 'best of the house', I'd say Timbuktu, Dzing!, and Aedes de Venustas EdP (this being made by L'Artisan exclusively for aedes.com) Aedes doesn't get mentioned much because it's not in L'Artisan's general catalog, but it is easily one of their best. Aedes is the absolute best sweet incense I know of. Top notes of coffee and rose (both very subtle), great longevity and sillage, very wearable. It's a bit like Amouage's Jubilation XXV (both composed by Bertrand Duchaufour), but without the foody curry spices (which I personally can't stand in any perfume) Also: comes in the prettiest bottle of any L'Artisan fragrance.

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    Default Re: Dzongkha, Dzing! or Timbuktu?

    Three top notches from L'Artisan. Personally I prefer Dzing but I guess it fits only the library part of your bill...


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    Default Re: Dzongkha, Dzing! or Timbuktu?

    All three are good....but for what you are looking for, perhaps Dzongkha would be the best choice.

    For other dry, exotic, evocative scent close to LDDM, you should check out Copper Skies by Kerosene. It's like cousins to LDDM and Ambre Sultan.

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    Default Re: Dzongkha, Dzing! or Timbuktu?

    Timbuktu

    I'm recommending that one since I think it is similar but less heavy in the base (more transparent) than the L'Air and has a wonderful sour vetiver note that puts it in front of Dzongkha for me (the latter almost has a "wet paint" or wet stone note in the dry down, much cooler).

    So, if you want something more transparent, yet still energetic, Timbuktu.
    Dry, ethereal, woody and cool, Dzongkha
    Warm, sweet, animalic and cuddly, Dzing!

    I've got Dzing! and Timbuktu; I love Dzongkha but have put off purchasing it for a while.

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    Default Re: Dzongkha, Dzing! or Timbuktu?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trauerkraut View Post
    ...you should try them all...!
    Yes they are all worth a try

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    I reaaaaally wanted to do a blind buy of Dzongkha just for the thrill of it, but after reading all of your responses I went ahead and ordered samples of all 3. The opinions here were just too split up and it seems that all 3 are definitely worth checking out.

    So, the samples are on their way! I'll be sure to update this post after they arrive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buysblind View Post
    I reaaaaally wanted to do a blind buy of Dzongkha just for the thrill of it, but after reading all of your responses I went ahead and ordered samples of all 3. The opinions here were just too split up and it seems that all 3 are definitely worth checking out.

    So, the samples are on their way! I'll be sure to update this post after they arrive
    Smart move! Let us know what you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buysblind View Post
    I reaaaaally wanted to do a blind buy of Dzongkha just for the thrill of it, but after reading all of your responses I went ahead and ordered samples of all 3. The opinions here were just too split up and it seems that all 3 are definitely worth checking out.

    So, the samples are on their way! I'll be sure to update this post after they arrive
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    Dzing! is by far the best of these three, imo.
    Current top 10:

    1. L'Artisan Dzing!
    2. Lorenzo Villoresi Yerbamate
    3. Guerlain Bois d'Armenie
    4. L'Artisan Al Oudh
    5. Bond No. 9 Andy Warhol Silver Factory
    6. Parfumerie Generale Bois Blond
    7. Andy Tauer L'Air du Desert Marocain
    8. Guerlain Derby
    9. Geo F Trumper Eucris
    10. Parfum d'Empire Ambre Russe

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    Dry and dusty? Far off places? Please please wait to make a purchase until you can try Amouage's Opus VI. It's all sun baked earth and dried bay leaves, slightly medicinal sandalwood. There is a unique floral element, which is present through most of the heart but remains in the background, that lends it an elegant factor that is missing in Timbuktu, L'Air, Let Me Play the Lion, and other such dry dry fragrances.

    It calls to mind a mix of arabic deserts and an image like this of the Parthenon:


    Also, the late dry down smells distinctly of books and dry paper as a slight vanilla note joins the very dry but never scratchy woods. Throughout there is a slight background of amber, but it's misleading to think of the scent as an amber prominent scent, imo!

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