Talcum like effect
So, I have been thinking about this one for awhile and couldn't come up with a definitive answer, so I ask for your help
I work at a men's frag counter and when I am showing someone a "powdery" fragrance (YSL La Nuit, Armani Code, Brit, etc.) and the customer seems to be liking it I might let the "P" word slip and for some of them it seems their manhood is being judged and they quickly move on. I have even seen fragrance models use the "P" word to insult a competitors fragrance (a couple was just about sold on Armani Code when the Coty model came over and said "Oh, that's too powdery" - the couple left without buying anything).
The best I could come up with for a substitute is "Dry Spicyness (spiciness?)" but I would love to know what you guys think.
Thanks for the help!
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maybe "irisy" would be a good word as usually iris note is respinsible for fragrance powderness. Or describing a scent "it gives a slightly dry feeling"
When some SA would tell me the fragrance is powdery, I'd be even more interested as I'm a big fan of clean, powdery scents (Hello, my dear Prada Amber Pour Homme & Infusion d'Homme)
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Dessicated. Most people won't really know what you're talking about, so I recommend saying it with a french accent. French accents always make things sound more sophisticated.
More realistically, you could say something like 'comforting clean quality' or 'slightly barbershop effect', 'slightly barbershop cleanliness', 'cashmere qualities', 'an almost tactile, comforting softness' etc.
If it is powdery, why not just say that. Or is the need to deceive just to make the sale that much greater?
If I heard you describing something in amorphous terms, I would just trust your judgment less.
Mellow, moderate sweetness
thicker, opaque, not transparent
dusty, velvety, enveloping quality
Fougere may be a good term. Generally quite "powdery" (meaning talcum) scents such as The Baron or Canoe are classified as fougeres.
Any of the suggestions so far are fine but I have to say I don't find those frags to be powdery at all.
Powdery sounds femme to the average guy, so just dont use the word at all. With the frags you mentioned i would call them "spicy, but smooth and clean" , "with a nice masculine sandalwood note" (not sure if they have sandalwood but probably, some sandalwood is powdery to me)
DO NOT mention any flowers, no iris. Spices and wood are manly. French and flowers are not. You probably know most of this stuff already.
Of course im talking about the average guy here so i dont want to hear all of the exceptions from everyone.
Also did you threaten that Coty model with bodily harm for messin with your money!
Nothing wrong with powdery. It is very courtly. Tell them that. Else perhaps baby bottomesque.
"Powdery" definitely has bad connotations in the 21st century. At best, it conjures up powdered wigs and the like. I would suggest "classic barbershop," which is where these powdery notes came from originally. Barbershop is an evocative, accurate description and it suggests a retro masculinity before everything went unisex. Or "sec" (French for dry and a butch-sounding word familiar from wine terminology) or "coiffeur masculin" (French for barbershop) for a classier tone.
Last edited by BurgundyMarsh; 14th April 2012 at 06:03 PM.
Instead of powdery, why not say "exquisite powderiness" or "unique exclusive powderiness", or "with a hint of elusive and sensual powderiness".
Quite frankly, the only really powdery scents I've ever come across have been Royal Copenhagen, Lagerfeld Classic and Lagerfeld Jako - they smell like I've shaken talcum powder all over. YSL La Nuit, Armani Code, Brit etc may have powderiness, but I'd really have to sniff hard to notice it.
Anyhow, then describe to male clients how famous aromatherapy books say women are all turned on by the smell of talcum powder - but that this secret is best used subtley in a sophisticated manner - by using scents such as Armani Code - rather than being too obvious about it.
"has a barbershop quality to it"
I think if you allude to the 'barbershop' vibe you can circumvent the emasculation the word 'powdery' seems to inflict while remaining honest to the frag's nature
LOL! French always sounds so nice when describing perfume.
"Try this, sir. Very poudreux!" LOL!
I would say "creamy."
I would agree not to deceive the customer to make a sale. Let the perfume sell itself to the customer. Don't let any other fragrance reps--ever--get on your turf while making a sale!
If a man is intimidated by mere words, he is not man enough to wear any scent, IMO. Let them go cry in a corner. Fragrance is only for men confident enough to pull it off. A bull elk in a rut does not apologize for the noise he makes to get attention. He is just happy the other boys step aside and the girls bat their lashes.
You might use the terms, however:
Subtle rather than soft.
Fresh rather than floral.
Bracing rather than spicy.
Bold rather than loud.
Gourmand rather than sweet.
Oh, and that comment about "French and flowers" not being very manly: there was a French nobleman on the 1830s who wore tons of eau de jasmine and orange blossom who was 6'3" and could flatten a man's face with a single punch (he was a bare-knuckle boxer), but he just preferred to slice men up in sword duels, or put a lead bullet through an arm with a percussion-cap pistol. He just wanted to prove a gentlemanly point and never intended to take anyone out.
Last edited by Primrose; 14th April 2012 at 08:05 PM.
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Classic talcum powder for men used in... barbershops.
There are different kinds of powdery scents achieved through different raw materials: lavander and the type of musk popular in the 1970's produces a kind of powderiness different to the ones produced with iris or vetiver. So the concept is quite elusive, you would have to define the sort of powderiness you are sensing. For instance, the one mentioned is the "barbershop - kind" of powderiness, which is different to Grandma's scents.
there was a French nobleman on the 1830s who wore tons of eau de jasmine and orange blossom who was 6'3" and could flatten a man's face with a single punch (he was a bare-knuckle boxer), but he just preferred to slice men up in sword duels, or put a lead bullet through an arm with a percussion-cap pistol. He just wanted to prove a gentlemanly point and never intended to take anyone out. [/QUOTE]
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+1 for dusty, talc-y...dry?