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    Default My CREED Vintage Tabarome flacon search...the lengthy windup!

    After about a 20 year hiatus I returned to purchasing finer fragrances in June of 2010. I fortunately discovered Basenotes about a month later. BN has been a fun and great learning experience. In about 7 months time, I feel that I have gathered the essential core of a classic fragrance wardrobe that is to my liking. Guided mostly by reviews and comments from valued BN members, in early November I decided to try and locate a flacon of Creed Vintage Tabarome. Had I rediscovered fragrances 2 years earlier, no way would I have been in this position because I tend to I buy enough to last when I really like something. Anyway, I already had a few Creed fragrances that I loved and I thought I would like VT if I could only find it.

    As luck would have it, I called the NYC Boutique and became aquainted with Luis, D'avia and Rodney. Luis said a few pieces of VT in the grey atomizer happened to be in stock for the holiday season. Lucky me! Not cheap, but I bought a few. Luis is the consummate fragrance professional--humorous and easy to like. The NYC Boutique is also the USA Creed mothership! Luis has been very generous with samples and getting to know him has been a delight. Luis kindly told me that VT is a frequently requested Creed fragrance and the flacons in the official distribution channels have been long gone. Once I received the VT atomizers, I found that VT exceeded my expectations and I wanted to locate more VT without paying secondary market/decant prices. I figured it would be easier to do so now than a year from now.

    In December (I think) I just missed the flacon of VT available (per BN tipoff) at Parfumerie Nasreen in Seattle by mere minutes. At that point I felt sort of challenged (or obsessed), so for the fun of it I began calling a few Neiman's and Sak's locations across the country on a daily basis and also a few mom and pop Creed sellers too. I also swallowed hard and purchased yet another backup VT atomizer from a fellow basenoter (thanks again, John). Most Creed specialists were kind and didn't laugh out loud when they heard what I was looking for. A few went above and beyond to actually search. A sweetheart of specialist from a Midwest Neiman's made an effort to no avail and then sent me a few 4ml decants from her father's VT flacon and also a rare tester Creed Cuir de Russie when I made a small purchase. I've since made a larger purchase from her because I like her and I appreciate her going the extra mile. In mid-January, a Creed specialist in South Florida called me a few days after I contacted her and said: "I found you a VT tester that you can have, it's probably the last one in the world. I'd like you to have it if you purchase something." Sounded fair to me. I had been wanting a flacon of Windsor, so now was the time, making it a win-win deal. The Windsor arrived safely along with plenty of samples but there was going to be a delay in the shipping of the VT tester as it was coming from somewhere else. The email/ phone communication from this lady was excellent through the 2 week or so delay and today the VT tester arrived (70%+ full) along with a generous amount of carded Creed samples. This is a Sak's Creed specialist who really went to great lengths to help a customer and I am very thankful she did. While I was waiting for the tester, she informed me that she was promoted (bravo!) and will be leaving her post as Creed specialist. Although I do not desire them, I learned there are flacons of discontinued Creed Cypres Musc and Aubepine Acacia available in South Florida.

    Anyway, though the search for the eluxive VT flacon I became aquainted with helpful Creed SA's I expect to do business with in the future. There has also been discovery of things along the way that I didn't quite expect. Lastly, I want to acknowledge the "extra mile" help of Creed specialists James D. and Bill H. from the Newport Beach Neiman's for their help in locating Vetiver 1948, Selection Verte and being generous in offering fragrance samples. Thanks guys!

    As far as VT goes, unless a flacon of VT falls into my lap I'm done looking for it. If I don't overuse what I have, it should last well into retirement. Oh, almost forgot, about a month ago I wrote Olivier Creed asking for help with VT. Haven't heard back yet.

    Have you ever sought a fragrance out high and low? Did you find more than what you were looking for? Any delightful discovery or serendipity?

    Martin


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    "A man on a mission" - Thanks for the good read.

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    Jazznpool, I'm not sure if you know, that was, um, me, who got the VT from Nasreen. I'm sorry!!! I'm giving it a good home and showing it lots of love. Still friends? :-)

    Don't give up! You have enough of it to last you til you find it!!

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    Hey Martin
    I am glad you liked that decant!
    I had no idea it would result in this! Congratulations

    I myself love VT, but I realized that I wear it so scarcely that 50ml is enough for a life time

    I hope you enjoy it
    Off-Site Decants =) (updated 05/16/12)
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    I was delighted to receive a letter today from Fabienne Creed. I wrote Olivier at the Paris Boutique in early January for help with my search for Private Collection Tabarome. She said (translated from French): "Olivier and Erwin Creed extensively use natural extracts that are subject to more restrictive administrative regulations. Because of this certain fragrances can no longer be maintained, including Private Collection Tabarome." Sadly, I don't think Creed Private Collection (Vintage) Tabarome will ever be made again. Over and out.

    Martin
    Last edited by Jazznpool; 17th February 2011 at 09:03 AM. Reason: correction

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNY View Post
    Jazznpool, I'm not sure if you know, that was, um, me, who got the VT from Nasreen. I'm sorry!!! I'm giving it a good home and showing it lots of love. Still friends? :-)

    Don't give up! You have enough of it to last you til you find it!!
    Upon my tipoff. Mike you're still and ass
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    Nice score on that tester-- to me, it's even nicer than a flacon.

    It sounds like it's IFRA that's causing Tabarome to become discontinued-- though I think they first tried to play it off like "Due to climate change (lol), some materials are no longer available..." Yeah, the climate of IFRA.

    I regret never being able to get Vintage Tabarome. It will always haunt me.

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    Cutting down on what can be in fragrances is ruining things IMHO. Most reformulations to get around it that I've sampled are poor, so as in this case I'd rather they not make it anymore than ruin it, as good as it is.

    That aside I would not give up trying to get one however but you're obviously going to be looking in secondary markets. Someone somewhere has some, even if it is a private individual, you'll be unlikely to ever find some in a regular retail channel but second hand even if unused a private individual still has them trust me I know. I can tell you I could have had a sealed flacon probably in October or so through a private individual but I was not willing to cough up the money (way more than I'd have liked to spend at that time but not to the point of being simply unreasonable given original cost). I may regret it in the future, for all I know the individual from whom I almost purchased it from may still have it I don't know if he got what he was asking (perhaps I'll call him after my tax return gets here). If you like it that much you might have to pay the money.

    I like a few other somewhat elusive fragrances that are somewhat more affordable if you get lucky, recently I've been trying to stockpile my longtime favorite Ungaro I before any and all sources dry up.

    So perhaps one is still out there with your name on it you never know.

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    Really nice to read about your slight obsession. Perhaps you can help me then?

    I bought a sample of VT from a guy on scent splits. Was really expecting to be blown away, but all I can smell is a kind of complex baby powder.

    What am I missing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by man114 View Post
    Cutting down on what can be in fragrances is ruining things IMHO. Most reformulations to get around it that I've sampled are poor, so as in this case I'd rather they not make it anymore than ruin it, as good as it is.

    That aside I would not give up trying to get one however but you're obviously going to be looking in secondary markets. Someone somewhere has some, even if it is a private individual, you'll be unlikely to ever find some in a regular retail channel but second hand even if unused a private individual still has them trust me I know. I can tell you I could have had a sealed flacon probably in October or so through a private individual but I was not willing to cough up the money (way more than I'd have liked to spend at that time but not to the point of being simply unreasonable given original cost). I may regret it in the future, for all I know the individual from whom I almost purchased it from may still have it I don't know if he got what he was asking (perhaps I'll call him after my tax return gets here). If you like it that much you might have to pay the money.

    I like a few other somewhat elusive fragrances that are somewhat more affordable if you get lucky, recently I've been trying to stockpile my longtime favorite Ungaro I before any and all sources dry up.

    So perhaps one is still out there with your name on it you never know.
    I'd certainly pay more than original cost for a flacon of VT. I won't pay decant prices for a full flacon though. I'll keep my eyes open as I know lots of people holding flacons might tire of VT or not be as gaga about it as I am. It is not for everybody for sure. Good luck to you in your search. I have a feeling it will become more difficult to source as we move forward in time.

    Martin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pamplemousse View Post
    Really nice to read about your slight obsession. Perhaps you can help me then?

    I bought a sample of VT from a guy on scent splits. Was really expecting to be blown away, but all I can smell is a kind of complex baby powder.

    What am I missing?
    Wow, I would wonder about the sample you received if it is all about powder. I would only purchase decants from known vendors. To me VT is a virtual fragrance symphony that is distinct, rich, and unlike anything else I've smelled to date. When I smell it, I am in awe of that it even exists, that a perfumer was able to put this wonderful concoction together ( I feel that way about a other well constructed fragrances too). VT is a powerful/ robust fragrance that has what I would call moderate or better sillage and great longevity. I have vintage Derby, and while I like it a lot, to me VT is another level or two above it. I hope you get to try another sample sometime. I could also be that VT just doesn't float your boat.

    Martin

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    I don't know if I would ever go through such lengths as you, but who knows. Great story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazznpool View Post
    Wow, I would wonder about the sample you received if it is all about powder. I would only purchase decants from known vendors. To me VT is a virtual fragrance symphony that is distinct, rich, and unlike anything else I've smelled to date. When I smell it, I am in awe of that it even exists, that a perfumer was able to put this wonderful concoction together ( I feel that way about a other well constructed fragrances too). VT is a powerful/ robust fragrance that has what I would call moderate or better sillage and great longevity. I have vintage Derby, and while I like it a lot, to me VT is another level or two above it. I hope you get to try another sample sometime. I could also be that VT just doesn't float your boat.

    Martin
    Yes, VT is really something quite remarkable. The first time I smelled it, I was magically transported to the late 19th century in an instant. I just laughed with delight. I fully understand your quest.
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    I've yet to find a fragrance that make me go through such lengths to acquire some. Perhaps my philosophy's a little different: I don't go round hunting down that elusive love, but stay open to experiences and myriad possibilities. Let love come to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondflame View Post
    I've yet to find a fragrance that make me go through such lengths to acquire some. Perhaps my philosophy's a little different: I don't go round hunting down that elusive love, but stay open to experiences and myriad possibilities. Let love come to me.
    Me too. I want there to be some destiny in the whole thing. Of course, I can safely say that, having gotten my VT while the getting was good. But even there, it was destiny. My Creed SA let me know that VT was on the chopping block, and the store got a final shipment a few weeks later. She did NOT have to ask me twice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondflame View Post
    I've yet to find a fragrance that make me go through such lengths to acquire some. Perhaps my philosophy's a little different: I don't go round hunting down that elusive love, but stay open to experiences and myriad possibilities. Let love come to me.
    Point taken, but part of the fun and enjoyment is the challenge of the pursuit itself if you are motivated to do so. There is harmelss mystery involved. I can't begin to mention how helpful and generous a few of the Creed SA's have been. I've forged helpful new win-win relationships. Beside some really cool and valuable Creed freebies I've learned things about fragrance merchandising and Creed in particular that I wouldn't have otherwise known. Understandably, not many would be attracted to this particular fragrance pursuit.

    Martin

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    Amazing how the universe lines things up for you when you want them badly enough and believe you can have them. I've had several of those experiences in looking for fragrances. Feels good.

    The reason Vintage Tabarome is no longer made has nothing to do with the inability to use/acquire certain raw materials. It has everything to do with the fact that it was one of their absolute poorest sellers. Hard to believe, but true.

    The good thing is that there is more out there for anyone who really wants it.

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    I understand your quest for Vintage Tabarome. About 5 years ago this seller creeddirect on ebay had flacons for around $200! I bought 2 of them but at the time didn't love the scent that much. One flacon I completely decanted out on Basenotes and the other I sold to another Basenoter (I know who you are!). I regret not keeping any. Recently I did a mini version of what you did and went to a few Neiman Marcus stores and asked if they had any. Some SA's never heard of it. One SA gave me a full 2.5 oz tester for free! One SA sold me a full 2.5 oz tester for $200. So now I have 2 bottles of this stuff but so scared to use it. My tastes have changed and now I love this stuff. I wish I could find more.
    Oriscent, AgarAura Pure Ouds, Creed, LIDGE, Patou Pour Homme, tons of niche and rare stuff for sale!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pluran View Post
    The reason Vintage Tabarome is no longer made has nothing to do with the inability to use/acquire certain raw materials. It has everything to do with the fact that it was one of their absolute poorest sellers. Hard to believe, but true. Edit.
    I hope you're right about that. That would open the possibility of Creed making a limited run down the road. I'm told that the fragrance has been requested so often that if a limited batch was made, it would sell no problem. I'd buy a 1000ml flacon if it became available. I'll continue to keep VT on my radar screen. Should I aquire a surplus, I'd likely make it available to others down the road.

    Martin

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZsmells View Post
    I understand your quest for Vintage Tabarome. About 5 years ago this seller creeddirect on ebay had flacons for around $200! I bought 2 of them but at the time didn't love the scent that much. One flacon I completely decanted out on Basenotes and the other I sold to another Basenoter (I know who you are!). I regret not keeping any. Recently I did a mini version of what you did and went to a few Neiman Marcus stores and asked if they had any. Some SA's never heard of it. One SA gave me a full 2.5 oz tester for free! One SA sold me a full 2.5 oz tester for $200. So now I have 2 bottles of this stuff but so scared to use it. My tastes have changed and now I love this stuff. I wish I could find more.
    Good story from someone on the fragrance scene a while! Some SA's gave me the bunk about how discontinued testers need to be turned back in to the distributor. Others have them gathering dust on a shelf and are willing to include one if you purchase something substantial. SA's have earned future business with me (and referral) when they are above and beyond generous/ helpful like that.

    Martin

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    For those who like these kinds of pursuit stories, I suggest watching the "Stone Reader" film.

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    Great stuff, Jazznpool, I've really enjoyed your pursuit and especially your enthusiasm. Also I like thinking of the reward we all get on the later days and days in the future when we can wear a collector's item scent and know what it meant to track it down.
    That girl, that bottle, that mattress and me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DustB View Post
    Great stuff, Jazznpool, I've really enjoyed your pursuit and especially your enthusiasm. Also I like thinking of the reward we all get on the later days and days in the future when we can wear a collector's item scent and know what it meant to track it down.
    Thank you sir! I'll chime back in if/ when something else develops on the VT search. In the meantime...we're rolling on and all is well!

    Martin

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    I could hardly believe my eyes but last night on eBay I disovered a 250ml flacon of "Private Collection Vintage Tabarome" for opening bid of $250. Because Creed did not appear in the title, it had been on the board for 2 days already and was flying under the radar. The seller in in Louisville, KY and my hunch is that it is Sarah's Perfumes under aother sellers name "Classicwigs. I hurredly wrote and offer to flat out buy the flacon at a higher price and offered to purchase another flacon if it was available in the event an opening bid was placed. This morning I called Sarah andleft a message and I noticed someone else saw the flacon and placed an opening bid. By this evening, the VT flacon disappeared off eBay saying te auction was "ended." Never heardback from the Classicwigs. Never heard back from Sarah. Mean streets at eBay sometimes. Brutal.

    Martin

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    Hey Jazznpool,
    I do a bit of ebay searching myself.
    Same seller has 6 flacons of 17oz. Fleur de Rose Bulgarie up for around 600 I believe. I unfortunately cannot afford that but it seemed interesting.

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    Damn! Very strange, too.

    Martin, have you signed up for Google alerts regarding VT to stay on top of any internet activity? If you haven't, might be a good idea.

    Don't loose faith!

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    hey-
    the one on ebay was listed as private collection vintage tabarome millesime. the new (millesime) - totally disgusting version was at a time available in 8.4 flacon. this may have been millesime version. wouldnt that be funny- i mean really really funny! i made myself crazier looking for more VT. i was told ( seriously now ) that the last batch of this was made like 4 years ago, and there would not be any more. i can hope that someday a run of this will be produced and we can all quench our VT's. i had sales people crawling around stockrooms looking for this- and i did get lucky but that was 18 months ago. try using this only occasionally and only one spray- who cares if anyone else gets to smell it- you will still enjoy it completely. VT is somehow like smelling great secrets. can you smell a secret?> in this case yes. the real reason VT is discontinued is because Tabaromes are now protected by law, and there are only a few in captivity. creed said they never before had reactions from all over the world like they did over the discontinuation of this scent. that is why they sold off that last bunch after they put it into smaller leather atomizers. i think i will spray some now- Count Tabarome rides again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now i wont sleep. this stuff- nothing like it ever not ever.
    thanks guys, perhaps the silver lining here is knowing im not alone in this. i am grateful. Possum7

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    Quote Originally Posted by possum7 View Post
    hey-
    the one on ebay was listed as private collection vintage tabarome millesime. the new (millesime) - totally disgusting version was at a time available in 8.4 flacon. this may have been millesime version. wouldnt that be funny- i mean really really funny! i made myself crazier looking for more VT. i was told ( seriously now ) that the last batch of this was made like 4 years ago, and there would not be any more. i can hope that someday a run of this will be produced and we can all quench our VT's. i had sales people crawling around stockrooms looking for this- and i did get lucky but that was 18 months ago. try using this only occasionally and only one spray- who cares if anyone else gets to smell it- you will still enjoy it completely. VT is somehow like smelling great secrets. can you smell a secret?> in this case yes. the real reason VT is discontinued is because Tabaromes are now protected by law, and there are only a few in captivity. creed said they never before had reactions from all over the world like they did over the discontinuation of this scent. that is why they sold off that last bunch after they put it into smaller leather atomizers. i think i will spray some now- Count Tabarome rides again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now i wont sleep. this stuff- nothing like it ever not ever.
    thanks guys, perhaps the silver lining here is knowing im not alone in this. i am grateful. Possum7
    I'm glad you enjoy the fragrance. The listing was for "Private Collection Vintage Tabarome" the one we like. The seller knew what she had. I called and spoke to Sarah when searching for it in December and at least brought VT to her attention. She has access to a few mom ad pop stores in her area including Indiana and Ohio that sell Creed as she quickly found discontinued Creed Bois de Santal in 75ml size. I do not know what really happened on eBay and in the big scheme of things it doesn't matter. I was just excited about the possibility of a purchase of an elusive flacon of VT. A different eBay Creed vendor I spoke with today said he heard from someone at Bergdorf Goodman that Creed had a reserve of the last batch made, that it was not released in its entirety to Creed USA. A future limited release at higher prices than previously is speculated for sometime in the future. Interesting, but I'd be surprized if this came to pass. I'm just keeping my eyes open, not really in active search mode for VT.

    Martin

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    If you can't find or afford VT, I suggest trying Worth Pour Homme Haute Concentration. I did a side-by-side sampling the other day (a dab on each wrist), and there are a lot of similarities. WPHHC starts with more of a soapy lavender, but then they seem to get more similar. Because it was just a dab, though, I may have missed some of the complexities.

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    Addendum: Trying to leave no stone unturned and looking for a few other discontinued Creed fragrances, I called several more official Creed sellers about 2 weeks ago. Some of the stores I contacted were not in major metropolitan areas. I was very fortunate to find an exceptionally kind Creed specialist who had an unused Private Collection Tabarome tester she was willing to include with a Creed fragrance purchase. I gladly bought a flacon of Citrus Bigarrade to get the tester (and will make another Creed purchase down the road). All in all the VT search was not a lot of work. It amounted to phone calls made mostly while driving to and fro. Hats off to the resourceful Creed specialists I spoke with.

    Martin


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    Great story!! I've never lusted after something so rare, and hope I never have to. Not that I have choice in the matter.
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    I can't decide whether I'm more envious of your Tabarome tester or your flacon of Citrus Bigarrade! Great purchase! Just out of curiosity, is the Citrus Bigarrade Flacon in green or clear glass?

    I love both these scents - have about half a tester of Citrus Bigarrade and ~60ml of Private Tabarome left...

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    Quote Originally Posted by StewartGallacher View Post
    I can't decide whether I'm more envious of your Tabarome tester or your flacon of Citrus Bigarrade! Great purchase! Just out of curiosity, is the Citrus Bigarrade Flacon in green or clear glass?

    I love both these scents - have about half a tester of Citrus Bigarrade and ~60ml of Private Tabarome left...
    The Citrus Bigarrade is in the more recent clear Pochet flacon. It appears as though recent changes in regulations on the use of natural citrus oils contributed to the demise of Citrus Bigarrade, Bois de Cedrat, and Selection Verte. Also a way for Creed to cull their relatively lesser priced fragrances and replace them with higher priced scents in a similar genre (e.g., Original Cologne).

    Martin

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    I love vintage tabarome too, I did a sample trade with a bn member a year ago to smell it and fell in love with it. Bought two 1.7 oz bottles from the boutique and I have tried to find more but to no avail. One of my favorite scents, I want more but I have no idea where I could find it at this point. I just hope the boutique can get some more of it even though they may not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidBond007 View Post
    I love vintage tabarome too, I did a sample trade with a bn member a year ago to smell it and fell in love with it. Bought two 1.7 oz bottles from the boutique and I have tried to find more but to no avail. One of my favorite scents, I want more but I have no idea where I could find it at this point. I just hope the boutique can get some more of it even though they may not.
    It's great you appreciate VT and snagged the VT filled atomizers when you could. 100ml of VT will go a long way. It is a complex, distinctive and extraordinary scent--well worth the effort to round up. Prior to going on my hunt, like you, I bought more than a few of the VT filled atomizers as a hedge. If you're inclined to make phone calls to Creed specialists, you might be able to locate a VT tester that could be included with a Creed purchase. I do think there are a few more out there and in years to come finding VT will not get easier. Although some are dismissive, many Creed specialists I have spoken with have been exceedingly helpful and happy to put a discontinued tester in the hands of someone who will appreciate it providing you buy something. At this point it looks very unlikely that Olivier or Erwin will attempt another batch of VT. I do wonder if they have an unbottled reserve from the last batch that could be bottled at a later date--but that probably is not the case. It is just incredible how the Creeds have formulated so many great scents over the years. It's perfectly okay with me if they embellish their history too. God bless Sir Winston Churchill!

    Martin

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    sounds like there are two different versions of "discontinued" to Creed.

    One is true cancellation of a fragrance. I think this is the case with VT and Green Valley due to lack of source of ingredients or IRFA regulations.

    the other is not really discontinuation, but "shelving". this is what i think is happening to most of the old school line. They have to do this because they simply don't have enough "vats" to make all their past frags along with all the new ones they're coming out with. I think Vetiver 48, Citrus Bigarrade, etc are in this camp. They were slooow sellers, so they got the shelf in order to make Windsor/Aventus/Spice&Wood/SublimeVanille/OriginalCologne/WhiteFlowers/JardinD'Amalfi.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see a re-release of Vetiver 48, CB, and others on the "discontinued" list after about 10 years. They'll bring it back in limited edition at a premium, and those of us who have fallen in love with them in the past will buy them again.

    just my guess...

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    Wow, you are really into VT, I tried it once but it was just a dab from a friend of mine who is a Creed SA, I liked it but it wasn't enough to test it in its full power; and you are lucky to have enough so you don't have to worry about running out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topsail View Post
    sounds like there are two different versions of "discontinued" to Creed.

    One is true cancellation of a fragrance. I think this is the case with VT and Green Valley due to lack of source of ingredients or IRFA regulations.

    the other is not really discontinuation, but "shelving". this is what i think is happening to most of the old school line. They have to do this because they simply don't have enough "vats" to make all their past frags along with all the new ones they're coming out with. I think Vetiver 48, Citrus Bigarrade, etc are in this camp. They were slooow sellers, so they got the shelf in order to make Windsor/Aventus/Spice&Wood/SublimeVanille/OriginalCologne/WhiteFlowers/JardinD'Amalfi.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see a re-release of Vetiver 48, CB, and others on the "discontinued" list after about 10 years. They'll bring it back in limited edition at a premium, and those of us who have fallen in love with them in the past will buy them again.
    just my guess...
    Maybe you're spot on here and we'll see some of the discontinued Creeds down the road in a limited edition. What you suggest seems plausible to me--only time will tell.

    Martin

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    It's great that the people who love and cherish Tabarome can still find it, albeit without much ease, from people on BN, Wiki, Crystal Flacon, etc... at prices more reasonable than Creed.

    Re-marketing the Tabarome 50ml with the leather atomizer of Tabarome they "found" was a dirty move, in my opinion. Why re-package it in the expensive atomizers and mark it up so much? Maybe it's just that I still see it as rather odd to think of Tabarome as being rare and truly scarce, especially since online discounters had them for $280/flacon or less not so long ago.

    Tabarome is an important fragrance and represents what I love about Creed, same with many of the fragrances they've discontinued or are discontinuing. It's a house that will not appeal to many perfumistas if they cut out all of the classics (EdTs) and never re-introduce any of the Private Collection. I still enjoy BdP and Virgin Island Water is fun, but they're not Tabarome or Angelique Encens...

    My quest is to try Les Floralies, but I will have to live with the fact I'm not going to pay a premium to get the leather atomizer and 50ml of juice from Creed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazznpool View Post
    Martin, can I ask you something? Is the juice in the tester the crème de la crème of a Creed batch? In other words, the juice here is a double-score because not only do you get some VT, but you get some excellent quality VT to boot?

    Oh and one other thing - is that Tabarome label a sticker on there? I notice on my grey cap there's a sticker of the name on the bottom. I wonder why they don't just print the name of the scent on the bottle like they do with the Millesime line?

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    What a great story Martin!

    I remember buying various Creed in 2.5 ml testers from Creedirect in 2006/7 but not a Vintage Tabarone as I had previously purchased a tester with ~55 ml left in it, from a Basenoter. I find it a definite and unmistakenly powerhouse frag that I love to wear only a couple of times a year and one that sillages from me like a ten foot diameter aura. That 55 ml will last an awfully long time as often as I wear it.

    (Unfortunately the spray mechanism went south early on and I had to remove it and decant the VT into a few 15 ml atomizers).
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOONB View Post
    Martin, can I ask you something? Is the juice in the tester the crème de la crème of a Creed batch? In other words, the juice here is a double-score because not only do you get some VT, but you get some excellent quality VT to boot?

    Oh and one other thing - is that Tabarome label a sticker on there? I notice on my grey cap there's a sticker of the name on the bottom. I wonder why they don't just print the name of the scent on the bottle like they do with the Millesime line?
    There is a slight difference between the juice in my partial VT tester and what is in the filled Creed atomiser I also use. I believe the tester is from an older batch but I can't be sure. I actually have another partial VT tester on the way and I'm eager to compare. I wouldn't say one is better than the other, but the partial VT tester has a hint of a positive mustiness to it. One of the advantages of having the VT testers is that it allows me to divest myself of a few of the VT filled atomizers I purchased as a hedge. Unless I stumble into a full or partial flacon, I'm thinking 250ml of VT will probably last me 20 years.

    Quite honestly, it looks like Creed makes the tester labels with a Dymo label maker and apply them by hand. That allows them to use one type of bottle for many different fragrances. I have no problem at all with their bottles but they spray heavy compared to their atomizers which break the spray up into a finer mist and use less juice per spray.

    Martin

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    Quote Originally Posted by kbe View Post
    What a great story Martin!

    I remember buying various Creed in 2.5 ml testers from Creedirect in 2006/7 but not a Vintage Tabarone as I had previously purchased a tester with ~55 ml left in it, from a Basenoter. I find it a definite and unmistakenly powerhouse frag that I love to wear only a couple of times a year and one that sillages from me like a ten foot diameter aura. That 55 ml will last an awfully long time as often as I wear it. (Unfortunately the spray mechanism went south early on and I had to remove it and decant the VT into a few 15 ml atomizers
    Thanks for chiming in. I totally agree VT is extremely rich and robust. When I first began the hunt, I actually thought about contacting Laurice Rahme to see if she might have flacons of VT stashed away! (I have tremendous respect for her bringing Creed here to the USA in a big way. She has to be one of the brighter minds in worldwide fragrance). Basenoter AZsmells says he bought a few VT flacons for $200 each from Creeddirect during the massive inventory sell off.

    Martin

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    Great read Jazz,

    I'm looking at all I can right now. I'd be interested to hear your take on VT. I'm certainly interested in buying this fragrance and have heard mixed reviews. Can you give me some thoughts on sillage, longevity, what do you smell and get from this scent- other thoughts? Many thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by koala501 View Post
    Great read Jazz, I'm looking at all I can right now. I'd be interested to hear your take on VT. I'm certainly interested in buying this fragrance and have heard mixed reviews. Can you give me some thoughts on sillage, longevity, what do you smell and get from this scent- other thoughts? Many thanks.
    Thanks Koala. I suggest you search Private Collection Tabarome in the BN fragrance directory if you haven't already. There are many reviews going back several years. There is a pleasantly wild and powerful fragrance cacaphony happening that I experience with VT. It has great longevity and is unlike anything else I've smelled. At first whiff I realized that this was a very special and complex scent that I liked and it got better from there. VT is not a casual fragrance IMO but it is appropriate for work ocassionaly and for going out. I seem to use it about once every 2-3 weeks lately. I sort of cast VT in the same realm at Amouage Jubilation XXV in that regard. Superb fragrance but not suited for everyday use...unless you work in the House of Lords

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    Thanks Martin,

    I have read the reviews but when I can get another opinion I always try to get an up to date one.

    This seems a fascinating scent- I'm going to try it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazznpool View Post
    Thanks for chiming in. I totally agree VT is extremely rich and robust. When I first began the hunt, I actually thought about contacting Laurice Rahme to see if she might have flacons of VT stashed away! (I have tremendous respect for her bringing Creed here to the USA in a big way. She has to be one of the brighter minds in worldwide fragrance). Basenoter AZsmells says he bought a few VT flacons for $200 each from Creeddirect during the massive inventory sell off.

    Martin
    Yes but back then I was a relative newbie and didn't love it like I do now. Unfortunately I decanted out all of one flacon and sold
    the other flacon to a fellow Basenoter at my cost ($200!). Fortunately in the past year I have been able to find 2 full testers. One a SA gave to me free without even a purchase, another a SA sold to me for $200.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazznpool View Post
    There is a slight difference between the juice in my partial VT tester and what is in the filled Creed atomiser I also use. I believe the tester is from an older batch but I can't be sure. I actually have another partial VT tester on the way and I'm eager to compare. I wouldn't say one is better than the other, but the partial VT tester has a hint of a positive mustiness to it. One of the advantages of having the VT testers is that it allows me to divest myself of a few of the VT filled atomizers I purchased as a hedge. Unless I stumble into a full or partial flacon, I'm thinking 250ml of VT will probably last me 20 years.

    Quite honestly, it looks like Creed makes the tester labels with a Dymo label maker and apply them by hand. That allows them to use one type of bottle for many different fragrances. I have no problem at all with their bottles but they spray heavy compared to their atomizers which break the spray up into a finer mist and use less juice per spray.

    Martin
    I didn't know their atomizers were gentler than those on the bottles. Interesting. I want to get an 8.4 oz bottle of something sometime soon, but won't use a Creed atomizer in the decant process. Probably just some cheapie atomizer from Bed Bath & Beyond.

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    I snagged one of the last remaining retail-price flacons of VT about two years ago, and I am still head-over-heels for it. At that time the store had one other left, and I decided no, don't need to be greedy about it. Damn. That greed is beginning to seem not so bad, especially when I see the prices this stuff is going for these days. I continue to wear it, but I secretly thrill to the idea that it could reach absurd five-figure price levels, or more, as one of THE collectible colognes.

    At this point, I will immediately pounce on any flacon of VT I find. I'd be especially thrilled to find it in the older, dark green flacon. Mine is in the lighter glass. I love love love it, but I've heard the older batches are (unimaginably) even better. . .

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    Addendum2: I received the VT tester on the right this week when I purchased a flacon of something else Creed. It's 90% full. Pictured is my VT trio, about 180ml altogether. I am currently using the one on the left with the gold cap. Sadly, there was a fourth partial bottle of VT that was mailed almost 3 weeks ago but has yet to arrive and I'll be surprised if it does.

    Martin

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    yes there is vintage tabarome and vintage,vintage tabarome in the green flacon. i wonder how the retail prices were on this 50 years ago. is there a creed " museum " in Paris? one can hope that if the recent leather atomizers were priced the same as the original limited edition windsor release leather atomizers at $405, tabarome in new brewing would cost the same- $605 for 8.4 flacon. sure- there has to be some tabarome in storage at creed, however this was last produced like over 4 years ago and released in the clear flacon. obviously the likely difference in ingredients along with aging would cause green bottles and old testers to be different/ finer. i have not yet opened a clear flacon, and unless ireally get a bug up my ass, its not likely to happen for quite some time. ive cut down on VT in a huge way, and i no longer drink any of it. this also makes me wonder how long the first release of windsor was sitting (perhaps years) - and that is perhaps part of the reason for the difference between that and the newer windsor. enough windsor. keep looking for v. tabarome. its around. all those bottles that got bought up last few years didnt get used up. even I coulndt have gone through that much. there also must be some in a shop somewhere. try Europe. tabarome is absolutely in a class by itself. let this again remind everybody to buy a a few of something you really like and replace that as you use it so you always have a supply, because there will be plenty more 'discontinuations' etc. believe it. also Martin- the Tabarome in your photos is old. the clear flacons reveal the perfume to be considerable lighter in color. the older the Tabarome the more amber colored it is, and also more rings around its tail and paws.
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    I received a partial VT tester with a little better than 30ml a few weeks ago from my most favorite Creed specialist. Unlike the other VT I have, this tester is of the more recent batch as it is lighter in color. Still smells great though. I'm hopeful that eventually Olivier and Erwin will challenge themselves to round up the needed ingredients for another batch of Private Collection Tabarome. Had to work a bit on the phone and make purchases of other things Creed that I wanted to receive all the VT testers. The search has been worthwhile and fun.

    Martin


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    Addendum. More than a year later I purchased a green flacon of Royal Scottish Lavender and lucked into full and partial testers of Private Collection Tabarome as gifts with purchase. Now I can wear VT a bit more often. The second photo shows my group of VT testers. I don't think we'll see this one again from Creed, and if we do, I expect it to be in a degraded form. Most of the discontinued Creeds are now difficult to nearly impossible to source. Another discontinued Creed I like a good deal is Baie de Genievre--but it took an older bottle (90's) to make me fully appreciate it.

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    Very nice indeed!

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    I like creed's powdery and more antique-smelling stuff like Chevrefeuille and Royal English Leather. Would this be considered part of this genre, Jazznpool?

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    Jazznpool,

    Excellent story. Congrats, well done.

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    A great story, I'm happy that you've managed to find a few bottles of your favourite fragrance. It just goes to show if you really set yourself in wanting to find something, then you will. Havent smelt Vintage or the new tabarome and honestly don't know if I want to because the process and thought of fishing out huge amounts of money for something I want is.....well hard to swallow. Thanks for a great story!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovingthealien View Post
    I like creed's powdery and more antique-smelling stuff like Chevrefeuille and Royal English Leather. Would this be considered part of this genre, Jazznpool?
    Absolutely, in the sense that Creed excelled at making fragrances in an antiquity style.

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    Do you happen to have any pics of the boxes the 2.5oz from the Creed Boutique came in?
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