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    Default Visa by Robert Piguet AND Peach frustrations,thoughts

    I feel a peach kick arising in my soul, folks ! I have always loved peach from my first Mitsouko days and I have Fresh Sake and Tresor . Mitsouko too , of course.
    I blame Clive Christian's X for women for my kick coming on .X for women is a peachy chypre sort of scent . However I question a lot about Clive Christian - not least the price.

    So I have read Visa is peach - vanilla- patchouli - as a rough sketch .

    Can I have your thoughts ,please ?

    Cacio - I think you love fruit !
    Kewart - if you are around - I think you love Visa too .
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    Default Re: Visa by Robert Piguet

    Yes, current Visa is fruit over leather, woods and patch. Clearly a post-Angel product. Not everybody perceives the leather though (I do). Peach is prominent, but it's not only that, it's more complex fruity (plum, apricot, some berries), and it's definitely sweet, not bitter as in Mitsouko. But the overall effect is not cloying because of the leather and woods base. It's the same perfumer as Chinatown and certainly there is a common plush gourmand effect.

    If you want more classic peach, I think you should rather check into things like Enlevement au Serail, or, more subdued, $$$ Promesse de l'Aube or 31 rue Cambon.

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    Its more of a boozy peach, kinda like semi-flat peach champagne.

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    Default Re: Visa by Robert Piguet

    Thanks for the replies !

    Cacio - I was actually disappointed with Enlevement au Serail and I have yet to try Promesse de l'Aube .

    L'eaulita
    - I love peach -actually semi - flat peach champagne sounds good ! I also tried Peche Cardinale but was also disappointed with it because the coconut note was so forefront on me.
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    Default Re: Visa by Robert Piguet

    I love Visa. Definitely sweet, and I get a peachy-melony vibe from it, plus patchouli. The leather in it to me is like shiny black handbag leather. I actually don't get the comparisons to Angel, but maybe I haven't smelled enough.

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    Default Re: Visa by Robert Piguet

    Kagey - the comparisons with Angel are really plentiful but I am ready to take Visa on its own merits . I actually adore peach and I adore melon and I really dislike Angel !
    ( I mourn the loss of New West for Women which if I remember correctly ...was a good melon - this was before my perfumista days though ! )
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    Default Re: Visa by Robert Piguet

    Hi Mimi. For me, Angel is all cotton candy, chocolate, and patchouli, and I do like it on occasion. Visa is more fruity. Maybe it's the healthy fruit salad version of Angel

    Will be interested to hear your take on Visa.

    Peach leaves me a bit stumped. I know it exists in Mitsouko but I can't really detect it. I probably need more practice.

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    Default Re: Visa by Robert Piguet

    I think with Angel - my main concern is that it will trigger one of my dreaded migraines. It does smell good but it's far too intense and dense for me. "Healthy fruit salad' sounds good, Kagey . I look forward to trying out Visa.

    Mitsouko - the peach is in the heart notes of the modern extrait . The EDP is also very good but a little more aggressive on the cinnamon to me . I detect more dry peach skin as it dries down before the vetiver hits with the bloody thin moss they put in the drydown instead of the chockful of oakmoss Mitsi once had. ( Sorry , Mitsouko is my heartbreak perfume since it has changed. There is NOTHING bar NOTHING like the original Parfum de Toilette - my first Mitsouko. )

    Peach when done well can really meld with my skin for some reason ...or I am just completely brainwashed with loving peach from my Mitsouko days...... *LOL*
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    Mimi- these are my comments on Visa during cacio's "pass the sample fruity" last weekend.

    Visa Yummy YUM. I really need to explore the Piguet house more. I have vintage Fracas (in spades and I rarely wear it because it's just so overtly bombastic.
    Visa is understated, classy, yet rich in the fruit and spice. I don't get the Angel comparison oft made- it's not overtly bombastic enough for that Plus no chocolate note.
    This is wearable anywhere by anyone.
    I do see a similarity to two fruity/spicy faves I have- Mauboussin, which is drier, and Silences Purple, which is sweeter. I may need to get a bottle of this at the LV Meet-up.
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    Default Re: Visa by Robert Piguet

    Knit- thanks for dropping in !
    Mauboussin is lovely- a kind basenoter sent me a bottle of it .
    I am so glad to hear there is no chocolate in Visa , Knit. Chocolate done realistically as in Musc Maori is great but most of the time, I dislike chocolate in perfume . ( The one note in Black Orchid I don't like ! )
    I am so glad to hear that you don't get an Angel comparison either !

    Fruit, spice, classy ,rich ,understated- oh yeah baby . (( Knit))
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    Mimi, I looked at The Guide and LT/TS say it's a fruity floral leather.

    The leather gets me interested!

    I have only the Piguet Fracas and Bandit and have never tried Visa.

    I also would have liked to have tried the Piguet Cravache, but I hear they took the leather out. And "cravache" means "riding crop" in French! That is like having Cuir Ottoman and taking out the leather!

    Off the top of my head, I think D&G The One has a lot of peach.
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    Default Re: Visa by Robert Piguet

    Primrose !

    I know- every time I read 'leather' I think of you !
    Some review I read ,said, that Visa reminded them of Boxeuses by Uncle Serge.
    Plum / peach - I am all in .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimi Gardenia View Post
    Primrose !

    I know- every time I read 'leather' I think of you !
    Some review I read ,said, that Visa reminded them of Boxeuses by Uncle Serge.
    Plum / peach - I am all in .
    Mimi, Boxeuses is an interesting plum/leather scent, but I can't recall a pronounced peach note. It's not in the export line, sadly.

    For plum/leather, I like 1889 Moulin Rouge by Histoires de Parfums. Lasts all day and I got a compliment!
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    That's true Primrose- that Boxeuses is plum leather !
    I also have heard 1969 by Histoires de Parfums is a peach .
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    Default Re: Visa by Robert Piguet

    1969- An acidic peach top quickly morphs into cocoa and patchouli / musk on my skin. It's really fun!
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    Mims, I personally find Mitsouko PdT not terribly different from the modern extrait, which is - if one wanted to fault it for something - too bright and 'easy-going' in mood.
    Boxeuses is a plush plum with a very redux cuir-de-russie leather in the background. I perceive it best when dabbed. Overall it's a rather low sillage fragrance with moderate longevity, a bit watery in feel...
    I do not like Visa, but then, fruit and leather hardly ever entices me.

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    Late to the party as usual! Yes, you are very observant Mimi - I adore Visa.

    Aurelian Guichard reformulated this and was also responsible for China Town,
    which it is a kissing cousin to. The bottle is very classy and the scent is totally
    elegant. Nearly every perfume I fall head over heels for has a touch of immortelle
    in there somewhere, and Visa is no exception. It also contains bergamot, benzoin and
    peach notes that I also love.

    Visa is somewhat like Angel to begin with then morphs into something altogether more
    enchanting. It is quite sweet, but the leather and immortelle seem to stop it veering
    off into "toothache" territory.

    I think you will love it if fruit and leather are your thing. They sure are mine!
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    Knit- I will get around to trying out 1969 !
    Larimar- I will go wear Mitsouko extrait again and see what I get. I think the main problem for me is the iris note in the extrait and the base as well .
    Kewart- yay ! Mmmm, fruit and leather sounds delish .

    I would actually break my rule and buy this blind but luckily a very sweet Basenoter is sending me a sample so I will have to control myself till I get it.
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    Mimi, I really enjoy Visa -- I wear it a lot, especially in the autumn and winter when many florals just don't "feel" right.

    Visa for me is peachy/fruity, some nice leather, sweetness, and spice. I personally get a lot more spice than woods. In fact, I have it categorized in my collection as a spicy floral.

    I don't find this particularly reminiscent of Angel -- which is a good thing as I don't care for it, either. I think on me the patchouli presents through the sweetness and leather.

    Enjoy! I'm looking forward to hearing what you think.

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    Default Re: Visa by Robert Piguet

    Here's what I wrote on cacio's thread:
    Enjoying this. Fave so far is Piguet Visa. I applied before bed and woke up to a cherry pipe tobacco vibe. Overall these are candied fruits, and even range into marzipan or loukhoum territory, at least to my nose.
    I may have to buy this. It was wonderful. Cacio's fruity sample pack was loads of fun.
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    doop. oops.
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    Mimi, how do YouTube Amouage Ciel? Other than expensive obviously! I was looking for something else but read the notes. A gardenia opening with a peachy heart... Well who else would immediately come to mind?

    I'd love to hear your views after finally finding my own Amouage love

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    Default Re: Visa by Robert Piguet

    Quote Originally Posted by Alityke View Post
    Mimi, how do YouTube Amouage Ciel? Other than expensive obviously! I was looking for something else but read the notes. A gardenia opening with a peachy heart... Well who else would immediately come to mind?

    I'd love to hear your views after finally finding my own Amouage love
    Hehehe ! Yees, Ciel did cross my mind- I will have to sample it too ...............
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    I don't get the Angel association, I would probably call out Gucci Rush before Angel- anyone else get Gucci Rush from it? Its definitely underrated, its such a well done scent, very glamourous and befitting if its name/inspiration. A jet-setting glamourous woman in designer attire, sipping champagne on her private jet. No doubt off to Paris to go shopping!

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    Oh the lemming has intensified ! I can't wait to try Visa .

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    You'll definitely have to let us know how you experience it Mimi!

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    Coming late to this thread. I love Visa? Do you still need someone to send you a sample? I have enough to spare.

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    Hi Mats ! Thanks for the offer !
    I've got a sample coming soon . I'd love to hear your views on Visa though .

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    Quote Originally Posted by kewart View Post
    ... Nearly every perfume I fall head over heels for has a touch of immortelle
    in there somewhere, and Visa is no exception.

    Ooooh! I've been curious about Visa for awhile myself. Now that you say the immortelle is detectable makes me even MORE curious. I might have to rustle up a sample too.
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    Default Re: Visa by Robert Piguet

    Welcome Santalgal ! If you get a sample- I would also love to hear your views on it. On such a peachy kick right now.
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