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    Default Re: At What Point Do You "Own" A Fragrance?

    Good reading. Many different takes... reminds me of the recent thread about "where do you put your minis"

    Some scents come in sizes less than 30 ml- although they might call it a travel size. (Hermessence & JHAG for example) To me that's still a bottle.
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    Default Re: At What Point Do You "Own" A Fragrance?

    for me personally when i own the bottle no matter what amount of juice =P

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    Default Re: At What Point Do You "Own" A Fragrance?

    For myself, "owning" a particular fragrance describes a certain mental state of mind, more than being based on how much of the stuff I possess.

    From a practical standpoint, if I sample something, and then like it enough to make the effort to get more (even if it's a 5-10 ml decant) simply the fact that I went to the trouble to obtain that extra amount shifts it into my mental "own" category.

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    The moment it is in my possession.

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    I used to be in the group that followed the school of thought that one has to own the actual bottle to say they own a fragrance, but then I started to consider what would happen if someone bought say a bottle of Aventus with 5 ml left. That IMO would not constitute owning a fragrance.

    To me, if you own at least 25 ml of juice in a bottle, you got yourself a fragrance. After all, it's the juice that matters in the end.
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    Hmm, I'm in the 25 ml camp, regardless if it's an original bottle or decant. I'm more conflicted on how much I need of a frag to take it off my wish list.
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    Default Re: At What Point Do You "Own" A Fragrance?

    Of course, the category "Own" is simply an arbitrary artifact of the way the Basenotes wardrobe feature happens to be set up. There is no "College of Fragrance Wardrobes" setting standards here.

    On another thread, mentioned above, a Talmudic discussion like this one which dealt with how to classify mini's, a 7 ml. cut off for an "own" was proposed. On my personal, off-line spreadsheets, I put everything in a single list and note the sizes (of which there are often two or more, or several bottles) which I own of each fragrance so I can keep track of them. But on Basenotes I list anything that comes in a bottle as an "own" and everything that comes in a vial as a "sample." I don't buy splits or decants so that doesn't come into it. I usually think of an "own" as a lifetime supply, even if it is just a mini.

    Unless Basenotes decides to become dictatorial about this, what you list as an "own" is really up to you. I've noticed that some people are already asking for a "decant" section to the Basenotes Wardrobe template.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buysblind View Post
    30 mls in my opinion, unless you're talking about Puredistance M, in which case 15 mls applies.

    I have a few 50ml decants that were part of a split, and I claim to "own" those frags, but feel a little funny about it. I'm kind of with the "original bottle, original packaging" crowd.
    I feel almost the same way about splits. In general, any extrait that is an original bottle - 7.5ml and up - I count.

    If I have a 10ml decant or larger I list it as a sample. Vials I don't count at all.
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    1oz for me, enough fragrance to not have to worry about conserving. The vessel it comes in doesn't matter to me, only the juice does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hedonist222 View Post
    How about if your decant gives you 20 proper wearings. I'd say that is a perfume you own.
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    Man, some people take this way too seriously...my system is way less rigid. If I feel like it should be in the sample category it is, if it's something I consider owned well that's where I put that.

    If you do it by the amount of liquid you have, well then when you get down to the last few sprays are you going to count that as a sample? If you pay $50 for 5mL of Vintage Tabarome did you not pay more for that then the $5 bottle of Nautica Voyage you claim to own? If you break a bottle and save the liquid, is that now a sample because you don't have the original bottle anymore?

    I count all my 15ml Hermes bottles as owned, I count my 10ml travel sprays of Frederic Malle as owned, I have a bunch of 9 ml Creed decants I count as samples, I have 10ml travel refills of The Different Company that I count as owned. My cutoff must be 10ml, although I did buy a bottle that had less than 10ml left and it's on my own list

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    Quote Originally Posted by starshipvelcro View Post
    Man, some people take this way too seriously...my system is way less rigid. If I feel like it should be in the sample category it is, if it's something I consider owned well that's where I put that.

    If you do it by the amount of liquid you have, well then when you get down to the last few sprays are you going to count that as a sample? If you pay $50 for 5mL of Vintage Tabarome did you not pay more for that then the $5 bottle of Nautica Voyage you claim to own? If you break a bottle and save the liquid, is that now a sample because you don't have the original bottle anymore?

    I count all my 15ml Hermes bottles as owned, I count my 10ml travel sprays of Frederic Malle as owned, I have a bunch of 9 ml Creed decants I count as samples, I have 10ml travel refills of The Different Company that I count as owned. My cutoff must be 10ml, although I did buy a bottle that had less than 10ml left and it's on my own list
    I see what you're saying but......
    Let's say you tell someone that you own Vintage Tabarome, he or she is mighty impressed, says that's really interesting, could he or she see it?
    You pull out your 5mls of Vintage Tabarome, he or she starts laughing.
    Do you really own it?

    Or would you have instead said you own a sample of Vintage Tabarome in the first place?
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    Default Re: At What Point Do You "Own" A Fragrance?

    I don't show my perfume bottles to anyone anyway-- they're in a mini fridge, not on display-- so there is no one to be impressed, or to laugh.

    If I am looking at another member's wardrobe to get an idea of their taste and what they like to wear, the "own" list is the one that tells me that. Their "samples" list may tell me what they are curious about, which they may not turn out to like at all.

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    Only (big) bottles for me.
    Another interesting question: At what point do the fragrances own you? ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renato View Post
    I see what you're saying but......
    Let's say you tell someone that you own Vintage Tabarome, he or she is mighty impressed, says that's really interesting, could he or she see it?
    You pull out your 5mls of Vintage Tabarome, he or she starts laughing.
    Do you really own it?

    Or would you have instead said you own a sample of Vintage Tabarome in the first place?
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    Anyone that you tell that to would understand the price. I'm not saying people don't think differently, but I would claim that I own that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by easyfish View Post
    Another interesting question: At what point do the fragrances own you? ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master-Classter View Post
    200ml Cuir De Russie.... I do whatever the hell it tells me to
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    Default Re: At What Point Do You "Own" A Fragrance?

    The ownership begins when you reach for it often. Be it in full bottle, mini or decant. Even sample, if you plan to buy it ASAP.

    To define "ownership" with the relationship, not with the display of various sizes.
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    Default Re: At What Point Do You "Own" A Fragrance?

    Slightly off topic, but another little nuance along similar lines that bugs me is, when you 'de-list' a sample here on BN, it automatically flips over into your 'I used to own this' list! NO! I didn't used to own this; I used to have a sample of it.......!

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