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    Quote Originally Posted by PuddleMonkey View Post
    so basically you'd rather have your opinions formed for you?

    to be honest, seems like you have an axe to grind.

    for someone who clearly has no interest in Kerosene fragrances you sure are hellbent on trying to discredit them. this thread had ill intentions from go.

    I smell previously banned member, and not a very bright one at that.
    Please, you seem very attacking against the fellow. He has expressed interest by saying he wants to order Kerosene samples. Also, just because he looks at reviews to see if something generally is received well doesn't mean he wants his opinions decided for him. I often cannot sample fragrances, so I also read many reviews to get a feel for whether or not a fragrance has met people's expectations, and to gauge if I would enjoy it enough to blind buy.

    Relax man, I think OP is just wanting a regular discussion on peoples opinions of an independent perfumist (and his pricing haha)

    As for myself, I would not pay upwards of $100 for a bottle unless it was good stuff. To do that I would have to sample, and I'm not willing to shell out $5 to get a sample of something that's not already well established. I don't have all that much money to piss away. If I weren't a student, then I probably wouldn't have a problem with ordering samples from Kerosene. If Joe thinks his stuff is good, then the guy must be fairly talented at making perfumes.

    Just my .02

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    Quote Originally Posted by PuddleMonkey View Post
    so basically you'd rather have your opinions formed for you?
    No, I like to have an idea if a product is good or not before buying into it...I like to research into it beforehand and see if it meets those expectations or does it fall short of the hype. I like to gather information/opinions before just throwing my money out without any direction.



    to be honest, seems like you have an axe to grind.




    for someone who clearly has no interest in Kerosene fragrances you sure are hellbent on trying to discredit them. this thread had ill intentions from go.
    If I had no interest, then why would I make a thread for it? Why have I inquired about samples in the past? Clearly, for better or worst...I have an interest

    I smell previously banned member, and not a very bright one at that.
    I was never on the forum before...nice shot though.



    Just because I'm hesitant to jump on the bandwagon and I have my doubts...doesn't mean much and theres nothing wrong with being skeptic of something new. I really don't understand your hostile demeanor and your need to get defensive....

    I've even had my own interest in fragrance making and have even asked John before of how he goes about such but never got a reply either.
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    I have only tried R'oud Elements and it is really good. As good or better than most of the Montales that I have tried. I am very honest and would tell you if it was terrible/cheap/amateur. Its not.
    Since you said you never buy full bottles of niche frags I suspect you wont think any are fbw. And since you are skeptical you are probably not going to listen to anyone on here that has purchased full bottles. Some people on here buy 4-5 $150+ bottles per week so their idea of "worth it" is going to be vastly different from yours.

    Yes he may have a few buyers just off of his name, but him making yt vids is not going to convince MiNNewyork to sell his frags.
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    Just because MIN sells it doesn't really mean much to me personally...with all due respect.

    Not sure what you mean by FBW either?

    Like I said though at the moment there are few who seem to love some of his scents and a few that believe its not for them...but like I'm reemphasizing its only a few, considering its a relatively new company that has only been open to the market for a rather limited period of time.

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    It may not mean much to you but it is meaningful.

    Quote Originally Posted by yteek View Post
    Like I said though at the moment there are few who seem to love some of his scents and a few that believe its not for them...but like I'm reemphasizing its only a few, considering its a relatively new company that has only been open to the market for a rather limited period of time.
    So... they are exactly the same as every other fragrance in the world. Some like them, some dont.

    Like everyone has said, you are going to have to try them for yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yteek View Post
    Just because MIN sells it doesn't really mean much to me personally...with all due respect.

    Not sure what you mean by FBW either?

    Like I said though at the moment there are few who seem to love some of his scents and a few that believe its not for them...but like I'm reemphasizing its only a few, considering its a relatively new company that has only been open to the market for a rather limited period of time.
    FBW = Full Bottle Worthy (an abbreviation common in the fragrance-lovers' world)

    MiN is a pretty high-end place. The fact that they sell Amouage, Miller-Harris, L'Artisan Parfumeur, Frapin, as well as a bunch of very trendy new brands like Carner Barcelona, and generally stay away from many smaller brands similar to Kerosene, but picked him up anyway, tells me that his stuff must have impressed Mindy and Chad more than a lot of other stuff which I don't find all that wonderful or exciting (no names). I agree that being carried at MiN means nothing to anybody's nose, personally. But I took it as a bit of validation - it made me think that Joe and I weren't totally crazy in liking R'oud Elements.

    You're definitely wise to be careful, IMO. Especially with something like Creature. $140 or whatever is a lot of coin. You don't want to drop that on something you would not be happy wearing repeatedly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heperd View Post
    I have only tried R'oud Elements and it is really good. As good or better than most of the Montales that I have tried.
    Wow, anyone else agree?

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    Honest opinion here. I like R'oud Elements a lot. It is the easiest to wear Oud fragrance I've smelled so far. It actually does smell like a $140 fragrance from a high end house and not like something a guy made in his basement. Not only does it smell incredible, but it projects well and lasts a very long time. I get at least 10-12 hours every time I wear R'oud. It dries down to a very nice and delicate vanilla that lasts til the end. It has niche quality in that it doesn't smell like your average scent, however it doesn't smell weird and WTF like some niche companies who try to push the envelope too hard. As for the bottle, yeah it's just a generic atomizer, but the craftsmanship he put into making them look unique is top notch. The automotive paint is much more beautiful in person than the pictures lead you to believe. I have a 50ml of the "vintage" R'Oud bottle and I actually prefer it over the newer one. The new one is still nice though. I agree that the prices are a bit high for a novice, but the overhead to start up your own fragrance business is expensive I'm sure.

    That being said, I have also tried Creature and Copper Skies and wasn't a fan of them. The level of quality ingredients is apparent in them, but they're not for me. Copper Skies is ok, but it's too medicinal to me. I ordered a sample of Whips and Roses and Santalum Slivers from Min NY recently and I'm looking forward to trying them.

    Here's my bottle of Kerosene R'oud Elements for good measure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mesaboogie View Post
    Honest opinion here. I like R'oud Elements a lot. It is the easiest to wear Oud fragrance I've smelled so far. It actually does smell like a $140 fragrance from a high end house and not like something a guy made in his basement. Not only does it smell incredible, but it projects well and lasts a very long time. I get at least 10-12 hours every time I wear R'oud. It dries down to a very nice and delicate vanilla that lasts til the end. It has niche quality in that it doesn't smell like your average scent, however it doesn't smell weird and WTF like some niche companies who try to push the envelope too hard.
    I recently got a sample and agree with every word of this. I don't like most oud scents, but this one is very appealing. I get a coca-cola note too which is very nice. That said I am unlikely to buy a bottle as M7 and M7 Fresh fulfill my limited oud requirements already. Nonetheless, this one is a winner. One minor caveat - those craving an avant-garde niche scent should look elsewhere IMO; there are no hard edges here, it just smells damn good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stew View Post
    Wow, anyone else agree?
    Most of the Montale Aouds that I have tried I have found to be unwearable. Too dry and overpowering, I feel like I am suffocating with them on. I love Aoud Musk because it has some sweetness to balance the oud and woods. The sweetness is what makes R'Oud so good.
    Though it is Top 10 worthy, I never have been able to find the oud in M7 so i dont include it in any comparison of ouds.
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    Wow, where to start?

    I agree that the tone of the OP feels a bit off. Don't know if this was intentional but it seems unnecessarily negative to me.

    Anyway, I've tried his first three fragrances and they're all very good.

    I have no issues with the quality or cost. I feel that $100ish is quite cheap for a 100ml fragrance from an independent perfumer that pours their time and love into a creation and into the presentation of every bottle.


    Onto the fragrances:

    R'oud isn't oudy really, it's more about sweet red woody notes. No idea why it's being compared to M7 which is far more ambery and complex. Too different scents IMO and both good.

    I like Creature the best so far. I'm going to test this and Lush's Dirty more so I can work out which of these two will fill my need for a bombastic minty scent. Maybe I'll end up with both - we'll see.

    Copper Skies I'm not sure about. It feels a bit heavy on the a spice or two which flattens the smell more than I'd like. Frustratingly it's also growing on me more than the others so who knows


    I hope you will try wearing them yourself yteek. I'd like to hear your impressions if you're able to thoroughly test the line.

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    I've tried and reviewed all of Kerosene's fragrances on my Youtube channel (bpwool). I do consider John(Kerosene) to be a friend, but I still believe I can be objective in reviewing his fragrances. I think John can hold his own with many other perfumers in the niche markets. I recently tested Kilian's Asian Tales line, and thought they were both overpriced and rather generic scents. As for Kerosene's fragracnes, R'oud Elements is a bitter orange incensey oud fragrance that I find to be slightly exotic, but more wearable than many other niche fragrances. Creature has a slightly harsh opening, but overall, much more interesting than Heeley's Menthe Fraiche. I'm not really into ambers, so Copper Skies was not something that excited me much. But it was nice to test an amber that had an american feel to it. Whips and Roses was alright. Kinda like a fresh garden smell. Probably the most unisex. Santalum Slivers is maybe the best sandalwood scent I've tried. I believe it is more exciting thatn Tam Dao. So those are some of my thoughts on Kerosene's fragrances

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stew View Post
    Wow, anyone else agree?
    ABSOLUTELY agree with Hep on that comment. Producing something better than Montale doesn't seem to be that hard to accomplish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradW View Post
    I think John can hold his own with many other perfumers in the niche markets.
    Creature has a slightly harsh opening, but overall, much more interesting than Heeley's Menthe Fraiche. Santalum Slivers is maybe the best sandalwood scent I've tried.
    Good summation BradW. His Santalum is one of my two favorites from his line. My skin reflects it back as a sort of woody leather.
    Good stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoGent View Post
    ABSOLUTELY agree with Hep on that comment. Producing something better than Montale doesn't seem to be that hard to accomplish.
    The first release beats Dark Aoud, Oud Cuir d'Arabie, and Red Aoud...sounds like a must own.

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    Other than MIN, where can these be bought or tested?

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    Kerosene: wrong name! This sounds not as a perfume house, but as a marketing joke...Diesel/Kerosene, Giorgio Armani/Bruno Banani?
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    If anybody likes Copper Skies, send me a PM.

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    I'm still reserving any judgement and will continue to do so until I've properly sampled them...

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    I've only tried R'oud Elements, and found it to be just mediocre. It did sit closer to the skin, lasted a while, and reminded me of Gucci Envy. I would love to try the rest of his line.

    As for PuddleMonkey attacking the OP, just ignore him, he is always negative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Cologneist View Post
    As for PuddleMonkey attacking the OP, just ignore him, he is always negative.
    I'm not convinced Monkey Puddle was all that out of line.

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    How so? I'm free to have my doubts and opninions and if I question it and I'm skeptic...theres no problem with that.
    Just because my opinion doesn't fall on the same side of the argument doesn't warrant getting defensive.

    There is no reason to lash out against someone just because their viewpoint differs from yours.

    I have intrest in homade perfumery myself, maybe it'd be different if I were in the same position but in comparison to veteran perfumers who charge a similar price....I was questionable if it was up to par with such.

    Personally, it seemed rather highly priced for someone coming right out the starting gate...and hints why I asked for people's honest opinions...thanks to those who did so without making it an argument.

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    I bought R'Oud Elements when he was selling on Etsy and had 1.7 oz bottles. They were cheaper then. I really enjoy it and it lasts forever. I haven't tried the others but I think his prices fall in line with a lot of niche prices. Yes if you like the fragrances they are worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yteek View Post
    ...Personally, it seemed rather highly priced for someone coming right out the starting gate...and hints why I asked for people's honest opinions...thanks to those who did so without making it an argument.
    I agree, and again, Smell Bent is the obvious company to compare Kerosene to, AFAICT. If this person had something else to offer, other than a nice-looking bottle, I might have a different opinion. However, to some people $140 per bottle is something they don't even think twice about, so I think it's important to keep in mind that $140 does not mean the same thing to different people, whereas $35 means about the same to most people, when buying a frag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Cologneist View Post
    I've only tried R'oud Elements, and found it to be just mediocre. It did sit closer to the skin, lasted a while, and reminded me of Gucci Envy. I would love to try the rest of his line.
    If this thing is between M7 and Envy now I definitely need to try it.

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    R'oud Elements is well worth the price for me. Personally I think most of the positive reviews dont even do it justice. The Oud note is handled with the same skill as M7 and even some Montales(the softer ones). Longevity is exactly where it should be for the price tag...I can still smell it on my shirt thats been in the hamper that I wore close to a week ago; 8+ hrs. on my skin; Silliage is typical of an EDP, with a huge projection for a few hours and then a long lasting closer to the skin scent. The bottle is definitely not the quality of a Niche brand but still not bad. I got one of the ones with the engraved copper plate which was a nice touch. Its not an everyday scent for me and I dont mind paying that much since one bottle will probably last me for quite some time. Apparently samples are pretty reasonably priced and easy to get if you know where to go.

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    I'd like to see him upgrade the style of his bottles once his house becomes more well known.

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    I don't get what all the hubbub is about concerning his bottle. That is his shtick. Sort of a maverick. Killians bottle has been mentioned several times, what is the big deal about his bottle. Same darn one for every frag, just a different stick on label. To me, I am buying the juice, not the bottle. Look at MDCI, same juice, but if you want the head on it! $125.00 more, no thanks.

    To the OP, you won't know if you like it, until you try it. If you are not even willing to spend $10.00 for a few samples plus some others ($10.00 gets five samples from MIN) you may be interested in, then why all the negativity without being willing to even give it a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PalmBeach View Post
    I don't get what all the hubbub is about concerning his bottle. That is his shtick. Sort of a maverick. Killians bottle has been mentioned several times, what is the big deal about his bottle. Same darn one for every frag, just a different stick on label. To me, I am buying the juice, not the bottle. Look at MDCI, same juice, but if you want the head on it! $125.00 more, no thanks.

    To the OP, you won't know if you like it, until you try it. If you are not even willing to spend $10.00 for a few samples plus some others ($10.00 gets five samples from MIN) you may be interested in, then why all the negativity without being willing to even give it a chance.
    I know it's a part of the theme to his house, but I just don't care for it. Every bottle doesn't have to be super classy, but it looks a bit cheap and makes me curious if the juice is worth it since the presentation is less than desirable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stew View Post
    I know it's a part of the theme to his house, but I just don't care for it. Every bottle doesn't have to be super classy, but it looks a bit cheap and makes me curious if the juice is worth it since the presentation is less than desirable.
    I fell the same way. Let the bottle represent the juice it holds in terms of class and sophistication.
    Is the juice worth the squeeze?

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