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    Default Basenotes Las Vegas Meetup October 2012 Itinerary *UPDATED*

    After matildaben and I posted the previous thread on interest in a 2012 Basenotes Meetup in Las Vegas in October 2012, many of you responded positively towards attending. It is coming up soon (October 5, 6 & 7, 2012), so we thought we would post some suggested preliminary itineraries of the schedule and places that we hope to visit as a group during the weekend.

    NOTE: Below you will find me referring constantly to the Las Vegas Strip. The Strip is approximately 4.2 mile street (Las Vegas Boulevard South). Most of the most popular hotels, casinos and resorts are located along The Strip, although there are many others that are a short (5-15 minute) walk to The Strip.

    • First of all let’s talk about flights/airport information: The principal airport in the city is McCarran International Airport (Link here). It’s only about 5 miles south of the “Strip”. The actual address is 5757 Wayne Newton Boulevard, Las Vegas, Nevada 89119. NOTE: This summer (June 27th to be exact) the airport is unveiling a third terminal (Terminal 3) that supposedly will handle all international airlines as well as Alaska Airlines, Frontier Airlines, JetBlue Airways, Sun Country Airlines, Virgin America Hawaiian Airlines and United Airlines. Details can be found at the above link. Transportation from the airport is available via taxicab, public bus service (RTC Transit, link here) or the Consolidated Rental Car Facility (link here). I am not renting a car when I arrive in Vegas, I plan on just staying on The Strip, where having a car is sort of unnecessary.

    • Hotels in Las Vegas range from affordable, economy corporate-chain motels all the way to luxury 5-star suites. A list of the Top 10 Las Vegas hotels, from Trip Advisor, as of today are:
    - Four Seasons Hotel Las Vegas
    - Mandarin Oriental, Las Vegas
    - Staybridge Suites Las Vegas
    - Platinum Hotel & Spa
    - La Quinta Inn & Suites Las Vegas Airport South
    - Desert Rose Resort
    - Red Rock Casino Resort & Spa
    - Signature at MGM Grand
    - Wynn Las Vegas
    - ARIA Sky Suites
    Of course, as wonderful as the ‘reviews’ of these hotels are, most likely your budget will justify which hotel works for you. From the above list, the Four Seasons, Platinum, La Quinta, Desert Rose, Red Rock, Signature @ MGM, Wynn & Aria are not actually on The Strip, but they are very close. Prices for the above hotels range start at $83 (Desert Rose) to as high as $558 (Wynn) – and prices may vary according to exact dates, # of people in the room, etc. I personally plan on staying as close as I can to The Strip, so it’s easy for me to get to the perfume stores, however for those that do not, most hotels offer free shuttles to-and-from The Strip.

    • The Basenotes Meetup Schedule takes into consideration a few factors: 1) We cannot please everyone; 2) Due to the large numbers of different venues that offer fragrances for sale, we cannot (realistically) tour all of them in one weekend due to nose fatigue, physical exhaustion, etc; 3) Not everyone attending the Basenotes Meetup wants to spend ALL of their time in fragrances stores. Taking these factors into consideration, we’ve outlined three itineraries for the weekend below. Take a look at them and let us know which one you prefer. Please post your comments to this thread. ALSO, please confirm in this thread if you are DEFINITELY attending, or maybe possibly attending, so that we can get a definitive number of people in our group. This will help us in planning the itineraries with the shops and the days/time that we want to go. From the previous thread we posted, the BN members who mentioned they would like to attend were: matildaben, petruccijc, knit at nite, Nersh, Warum, Grottola, mr. cologneguy, drseid, Leesee, Brian Chambers (?), Haunani, , gabeinstyle, lilybelle, YEAHBUDDY, OVincze, rubegon, cello, Redneck Perfumisto, AutumnLeaves, Al Gae, greycaptain, Jawill101, lionheart, Nersh (?), docluv45, QVT, thatmakesscents, autumngleeman, NYC Boy...did I forget anyone?? If you did not respond to the last thread, feel free to let us know on this one, that you plan on attending. The more the merrier!

    • Details on the shops we will visit are below (times are suggestions, at this point, until we contact the stores directly):

    Skins 6 / 2 at The Cosmopolitan. Since most attendees will be arriving Friday, there is only time for an evening meetup. One of the newer venues in Las Vegas, Skins 6|2 at The Cosmopolitan (link here). This shop has a nice assortment of brands from many niche lines (Creed, Serge Lutens, Maison Francis Kurkdjian, Diptyque, By Killian, Juliette Has A Gun, Tokyo Milk & others). It is a beautiful shop (photo here) and we think it will be a great starting point for our first night in Vegas. The Cosmopolitan is located on the west side of The Strip, just south of The Bellagio (map and directions here). Our plan is to meet here at 6:00 pm through 8:00 pm, which will allow us ample time to meet each other, sniff/shop for fragrances and head from here to dinner, gambling, shows on your own or as an informal group.

    Barney’s at The Palazzo Shoppes (link here). This fragrance-friendly department store has a wonderful selection of designer and niche lines (Acqua Di Pharma, Antonia’s Flowers, Arquiste, Bois 1920, Byredo, Carthusia, Cereus, Comme de Garcons, Costume National, Escentric Molecules, Frederic Malle, Heeley, L’Artisan Perfumer, Le Labo, Les Parfums de Rosine, Nasomatto, Odin NY, Parfums Del Rae, Serge Lutens, The Different Company, Yosh & more!). The fragrance section is in the basement, picture here.

    Guerlain boutique, is located at The Palazzo Shoppes. Of course, this features many ‘exclusive’ scents in the fragrance line along with the normal retail line. Picture here.

    Christian Dior boutique, is also located at The Palazzo Shoppes. The boutique features the La Collection Prive line of exclusive fragrances. Picture here.

    Chanel is located in the Wynn Hotel. Like the Guerlain boutique, you can purchase the Chanel Les Exclusifs as well as the normal retail line. Picture here.

    Hermes, also at The Wynn, you can smell/sample the Hermessence series of fragrances as well as the regular retail line of fragrances. Picture here.

    Fashion Show Mall is actually a mall located on The Strip, with normal designer/outlet stores and also a Neiman Marcus and Saks Fifth Avenue. Link here.

    Finally, feel free to let us know if there are any other stores that you are strongly interested in seeing (or if there are any on the list that you are NOT interested in seeing).


    Itinerary #1 (standard plan)

    Friday 10/5
    6:00- 8:00 - Skins 6 | 2 - Cosmopolitan

    Saturday 10/6
    10:00-11:30 - Barneys - Palazzo Shoppes
    11:30-12:15 - Guerlain - Palazzo Shoppes
    12:15-1:00 - Dior - Palazzo Shoppes
    1:00-2:30 - Lunch
    Afternoon - Free time
    Evening - Free time

    Sunday 10/7
    Morning - Free time
    12:00-1:30 - Lunch and Sample Swap - Fashion Show Mall Food Court
    Afternoon - Free time / Neiman Marcus, Saks, and Nordstrom are located in this Mall for all interested

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    Itinerary 2 (leisurely plan)

    Friday 10/5
    2 hours before close - close - Skins 6 | 2 - Cosmopolitan

    Saturday 10/6
    10:00-12:00 - Barneys - Palazzo Shoppes
    12:00-1:30 - Lunch - Palazzo Shoppes
    1:30-2:00 - Guerlain - Palazzo Shoppes
    2:00-3:30 - Dior - Palazzo Shoppes

    Sunday 10/7
    Morning - free time
    12:00-1:30 - Lunch and Sample Swap - (check to see where is a good place at or near the Wynn to do this)
    1:30-2:30 - Chanel - Wynn
    2:30-3:30 - Hermes - Wynn
    Afternoon - Free time

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    Itinerary 3 (ambitious plan)

    Friday 10/5
    2 hours before close - close - Skins 6 | 2 - Cosmopolitan

    Saturday 10/6
    10:00-11:30 - Barneys - Palazzo Shoppes
    11:30-12:15 - Guerlain - Palazzo Shoppes
    12:15-1:00 - Dior - Palazzo Shoppes
    1:00-2:15 - Lunch
    2:15-2:30 - travel time to Wynn
    2:30-3:15 - Chanel - Wynn
    3:15-4:30 - Hermes - Wynn
    Evening - free time

    Sunday 10/7
    Morning - free time
    12:00-1:30 - Lunch and Sample Swap - Fashion Show Mall Food Court
    1:30-2:15 - Neiman Marcus - Fashion Show Mall
    2:15-3:00 - Saks - Fashion Show Mall
    Afternoon - Free time

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    Default Re: Basenotes Las Vegas Meetup October 2012 Itinerary Discussion

    Looks great! Not sure which schedule I would follow - nice to have some options.

    I will probably also choose to stay on the strip somewhere. Red Rock is nice, but it's far enough away that it's hard to pop back into the room on a whim, whereas that's much easier if you're staying on the strip itself, or just off the strip.

    There's really something for every budget. Beyond the nice ones you listed, there are some good, intermediate-priced places on the strip that aren't as expensive, but are still pretty nice, and very conveniently located for fragrance shopping. Monte Carlo is just one example. And some of the older places (Tropicana, Flamingo, Circus Circus) are downright cheap, and have a bit of an historic feel, even if they're a bit worn out. I'm actually kind of glad that I stayed at the Sahara before it was closed.

    Starting to get excited!
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    Fabulous job on the schedule Mike and Kathleen!

    I will have a car. The Fashion Show Mall is across the Street from the Wynn and I have parked at the mall and walked over before.

    As if there's not enough on your ambitious schedules, the Wynn also has an apothecary type boutique with Penhaligan's full line in it.

    My reservations are at the Cancun Resort, slightly off the lower end of the Strip. I'm checking in Thursday late afternoon.
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    Doubt I will be able to make it, however, I have been to vegas and stayed at 3 hotels on the strip. Based on what I have experienced, I will never stay at Treasure Island or MGM when I return. Rooms are too small, and not worth the price you pay. My favorite is The Mirage - High Top 5 review on that hotel, and not expensive. Get the "deluxe room" better view, and the exact room I stayed in. Very contemporary.

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    It may interest some so I'll go ahead and mention that there's outlet malls on both the north and south sides of town. If you wanted to be thorough in scouring the city for frags, there's I think four discount garden-variety frag shops in the south side outlets. Personally, I found the south side offerings weak and wouldn't recommend wasting your time, but thats just me. I'm yet to recon the north side outlets for frags.

    As for the palazzo, Dior, Guerlain and Barneys are all very close to each other. Barneys has frags on two floors, the better of the two being downstairs ground level, but the upstairs has got good stuff as well. Dior and Guerlain are fairly small stores and would probably be bordering on packed with 10+ in either of them. Just an FYI.

    Overall, the agenda looks solid for frag shopping. The only conceivable change I might (granted might) make is while you're at 6/2, it's very close, like 5 minute walk over a sky bridge to Crystals, which has Tom Ford, Prada, Dior, Hermes, and other stuff. According to a SA there, Tom Ford "doesn't have samples" so just a heads up on that. They did have the chromed out bottle of Lavender Palm though which might interest somebody somewhere and the other new TF frags should be out around that time as well.
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    I just wanted to add a bit of info concerning hotels. I live about 5 hours from Vegas and go down about 2 times a year...for the past couple of years my wife and I have used priceline.com to book our hotels. We have had some awesome success getting rooms for a low price by making our own bid. If you have never used price line you should check it out...and no, I definitely don't work for them. Anyway, one of our stays was last August, and, for those of you that aren't familiar with how priceline works as far as making your own bid...you choose location and the star rating of the hotel that you would like to stay in, and then you name your price and see if they accept it. If they do you will not be able to back out, they will charge your card, so it is a bit of a gamble...which is ironic seeing that it's Vegas. So, my wife and I tried our hand and we got the Trump Tower which is a 5 star AMAZING hotel for $70 a night. There is a resort fee also of $15 dollars per night so it did end up being $85 a night, but that was a steal for the room we got. It was luxury like no other. It was a huge room with all the bells and whistles. Then when we went this past April we tried it again and got Treasure Island for $60 a night. They don't have a resort fee so it was $60 and, while it wasn't as great of a room as the Trump, it was still a great room for an exceptionally great price. To put it in perspective, we decided that we might want to stay for a 3rd night so we called to see how much it would cost to stay for one more night and they said that because it was going to be busy that next night that it would cost us $189 dollars. We said no and went home when we planned on going home.
    SO, I just thought that I'd recommend priceline.com. It is a great way to go. There is one problem though, to get the best deals I would try booking a room about 1-2 weeks in advance, which can be a little scary if you like things planned way in advance, but they won't give you as good of deals much farther out because they are banking on people paying the normal price and filling up their rooms. 1-2 weeks out they are a little nervous that they won't fill up the rooms so they would rather have you pay something rather than not get anything from the room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loudsight123 View Post
    Doubt I will be able to make it, however, I have been to vegas and stayed at 3 hotels on the strip. Based on what I have experienced, I will never stay at Treasure Island or MGM when I return. Rooms are too small, and not worth the price you pay. My favorite is The Mirage - High Top 5 review on that hotel, and not expensive. Get the "deluxe room" better view, and the exact room I stayed in. Very contemporary.
    Yes, The Mirage is great! Excellent price-to-quality ratio, and very convenient, too.

    I may try priceline, too. Thanks for the tip!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
    Yes, The Mirage is great! Excellent price-to-quality ratio, and very convenient, too.

    I may try priceline, too. Thanks for the tip!
    Yeah, I forgot to say that priceline is great in Vegas because they have so many rooms there are a lot to fill and so I have gotten on priceline is in Vegas. I paid $100 for a crappy hotel in a city in northern Utah, and $70 for an absolutely amazing room in Vegas, just saying'.

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    Great tips everyone.

    Which itinerary is everyone leaning towards?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post
    Which itinerary is everyone leaning towards?
    Too much fragrance shopping is *just enough*!

    Count me as a vote for "ambitious"!
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    Ambitious plan is best. Very good work on the itineraries. Exactly the itinerary I had in mind.

    My Vegas advice: it's all about spending money. Do not try to enjoy Vegas on the cheap. You can find a lower-priced hotel room, and might be able to find some reasonably-priced food & beverage. . . but anything truly in the budget category is likely to be pretty horrible. You're surrounded by monuments to wretched excess in Vegas, and if you're not really indulging in the "live it up" fantasy, you'll be sorely reminded of it at every turn.

    I share this advice completely in the spirit of a) been there, done that, don't want to do it again, b) everyone I know who ever went to Vegas and came back saying "it was just ok" made the mistake of trying to go on the cheap, and c) I like the basenoters too much not to share this advice. Vegas is the original "go big or go home" destination.

    I might add: nightlife in Vegas is considerably less costly for young, attractive women. They get in free to all the best clubs, and guys buy them drinks all night long. Everyone else: if you're thinking of going clubbing, better come well-equipped with a large wad of cash.

    Shows in Vegas: yee haw, they are lots of fun. Try to see at least one Cirque du Soleil, or something big and tacky, like "Jubillee" at Bally's. Worth the money, and no doubt far less costly than hitting the tables, especially on a weekend evening, when the minimums at casinos on the strip go much higher.

    Not trying to discourage any ready-and-willing basenoters. Just want to share my own personal POV. Suspicious knowledge on display here. . . sign of a misspent youth. . .

    Have to say this, too: I am in awe of Mr. Mikeperez23's work on this. Very well done.

    I am trying to engineer my own great escape to this meet-up. Love to see you all there. Thank you, Mr. Mikeperez23.
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    Anybody want to get married while we're there?

    BTW, another plus of staying at the Mirage is all-you-can-sniff access to Kim Kardashian's True Reflection at the Kardashian Khaos boutique.

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    (giggle)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Chambers View Post
    Anybody want to get married while we're there?

    BTW, another plus of staying at the Mirage is all-you-can-sniff access to Kim Kardashian's True Reflection at the Kardashian Khaos boutique.
    Well, that seals the deal for me! I was inches from buying the Khloe & Lamar scent in Perfumania. That signed bottle is calling!
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    Those who are voting for the ambitious plan, keep in mind what those of us who were in New Orleans learned, that your nose and brain (as well as back and feet) can get tired when doing too much sniffing in a limited period of time.

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    Yes that was certainly my experience at all meet-ups. And in NOLA we specifically learned that taking a little break for a drinkie and people watching in a nice location can be very reviving!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by matildaben View Post
    Those who are voting for the ambitious plan, keep in mind what those of us who were in New Orleans learned, that your nose and brain (as well as back and feet) can get tired when doing too much sniffing in a limited period of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Chambers View Post
    Anybody want to get married while we're there?

    BTW, another plus of staying at the Mirage is all-you-can-sniff access to Kim Kardashian's True Reflection at the Kardashian Khaos boutique.
    LOL well, I can be a maid of honor if required. I've had lots of practice
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrcologneguy View Post
    ...Have to say this, too: I am in awe of Mr. Mikeperez23's work on this. Very well done.

    I am trying to engineer my own great escape to this meet-up. Love to see you all there. Thank you, Mr. Mikeperez23.
    You're welcome mrcologneguy. I hope you can make it.
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    Sigh - two years too late for me! Lived there for 13 years and probably won't be going back anytime soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bark View Post
    Sigh - two years too late for me! Lived there for 13 years and probably won't be going back anytime soon.
    On the lam now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by knit at nite View Post
    Fabulous job on the schedule Mike and Kathleen!

    I will have a car. The Fashion Show Mall is across the Street from the Wynn and I have parked at the mall and walked over before.
    FYI, the parking at the Palazzo is easier to get to than it is at the mall, believe it or not. If you're going down Spring Mountain towards the strip, just cross it (the strip) - around the bend and to the right there's an entrance for underground parking. There's always been plenty of parking when I've gone and it's super quick in and out. The elevators take you right into the lobby and Barney's et al are close by and you're still across the street from The Wynn without having to cross The Strip.

    The mall tends to take a lot longer to both navigate and find a spot.

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    On the lam now?
    Yep - Vegas broke me, lol. Well... not in the way one might expect. I worked on the Yucca Mountain Project nearly my entire time there and Harry/Obama cut the budget and closed the project at the absolute worst possible time when unemployment was 15%+ and my condo lost 85%... yes, 85% of its value within three years.

    Oh well, life goes on.
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    Thank you for this insider's tip, The Bark. Taking notes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by knit at nite View Post
    Thank you for this insider's tip, The Bark. Taking notes.
    Hopefully this works so you can see it

    https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid...00851,0.015836

    The attachment is a shot looking west, toward the strip. As you can see, the Fashion Show Mall is right across the street to the right and the entrance is on a slight bend in the foreground.
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    What service! Merci mille fois.
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    Yeah, The Bark is dead on about the parking and location, it couldn't be easier. Well, it could be, but it's pretty easy as it is.
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    So where are you all staying?

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    I'm staying here: http://www.cancunresortlv.com. Not exactly on the strip but I've stayed there before and since it's part of my timeshare resort system, it's not costing me (any extra)
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    I'm this close to booking at The Cosmopolitan
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post
    I'm this close to booking at The Cosmopolitan
    Good call. I am hatching a plan to somehow make this into a business trip. . . heh heh heh. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post
    I'm this close to booking at The Cosmopolitan
    The Cosmo is hella nice and centrally located.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrcologneguy View Post
    Good call. I am hatching a plan to somehow make this into a business trip. . . heh heh heh. . .
    Same here - I'm thinking I'll try to work it into the tail end of a climbing trip with my buddies. Doubt they'll want to stick around for the sniff, but who knows.

    Time to start looking at prices.....

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    Well, that was fast. I'm all in, guys - and so is Perfumista-san. The lovely Mrs. Redneck will be joining us!

    Now - I'm counting on y'all to help me out. When I'm fixing to buy something, she's gonna need lots of distraction, to help me score the juice when she's not minding my wallet.

    Are we good? Or at least, good to go?

    (And it's The Mirage for us! Nice location, painfully close to Guerlain and Hermès. Feel free to join us there!)
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