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    Wow, cacio, coming up on 4,000 posts. Thanks for your edifying contributions to BN. On another note—so to speak—you've got me curious about Tabu now.

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    Continuing with my notes:

    First a photo of my Weil collection, now travelling to a nose near you (;

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    Back row L to R: Weil lde Weil mini, Weil de Weil PdT , Antilope PdT (1970s?), Antilope EdT , Antilope EdC
    In front L to R: Chunga mini, Padisha mini, Secret de Venus mini, vintage Zibeline
    missing form photo: Bambou mini and the four Aroli vials named in an earlier post

    •First, the Antilopes. Yes, there are four, the EdT and PdT are vintage, as you can see from the bottles, EdC from the aughts, and Aroli's Antilope Pour Elle. The two vintage are quite similar, and they are my go-to fragrance lately, possessing that "lotiony" drydown that seems to belong only to vintage, whether by way of tastes or IFRA. Classic aldehyde, in good company with My Sin and N° 5, with my favorite drydown, lotiony and deep. The EdC in the tall hex bottle is insipid and bears no resemblance. Aroli's Antilope Pour Elle is faint compared to the vintage, and may stand on its own merits. Among it's ingredients is oakmoss.

    Weil de Weil. I didn't send from the mini, as I sent the rntire PdT bottle. The mini is vintage, the other I'm not sure, but they are indentical. Weil de Weil opens with a bitter, bitter green, lots of galbanum. It softens to temperate white flowers with hyacinth and narcissus, follwed by a civety, leathery drydown in which the flowers persist. Launched in 1971, it is a masterpiece. I may have added some to the very missed Hillaire's epic citric/chypric sampler.

    Zibeline then and now. the vint Zib, in the cut glass bottle, packs a punch. I get a mothball (Naphthalene) smell that is off-putting then it settles down just a little into sumptuousness from a different age, one of coriander, heliotropin, civet, and incense. Aroli's modern Zibeline de Weil is a cleaned-up old Zib with a bow to modern gourmand tastes. Good on its own terms, not long lasting. Reminds me of RL Safari for Men a bit. It seems that moder (Aroli) Weil relies on a base that is peachy and vanillic, with some tonka and benzoin; this is what I get from my minis of Padisha and SdV, as well as the modern Zib.

    Secret de Weil (Aroli). Mentholated rose. Again, not long lasting, but an interesting composition.

    Rêve de Weil. Opens powdery citrus ("refreshing", heaven help me!), then temperate (not tropical) floral including violet. It's nice, nice being sometimes the kiss of death in fragrance.

    There you have it, my take on the Weils I've owned. Looking forward to everyone's insights. Happy sniffing!
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    Not much time to smell today, so quick impressions.

    Secret de Venus: this morning. Rather sweet, disappeared before relevant animalics could be detected.
    Now, just before bed:
    Zibeline (recent): no relation with the pdt. For now, just sickly fruity sweetness. May be more interesting in the drydown? I put back on some pdt. I dont' know if it's because the pdt has turned, but there is no fruity sweetness.
    Weil de weil: green, green, vegetal, bitter mossy. Wonderful. Of course, a frag like this could simply not exist right now.

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    The SdV I sent is a recent Weil, doubt there is any animalic ingredient. I found my SdV and Padisha minis, both modern, and the modern (Aroli) Zibeline of my collection to share a fruity vanilla base that bears no kinship with the storied Weils of old. Longevity is definitely a problem. My handwritten notes pronounce these three linear, so don't expect some revelatory drydown, alas.

    I'm glad and not remotely surprised that you like the Weil de Weil. I received some in 1979 from a friend's mother, was heartsick when I dropped that bottle on a ceramic bathroom floor, thrilled to rediscover it. It is what I measure other greens against.

    The old Zib PdT may have turned, are we both talking about the cut glass bottle, are you getting mothball smell? Larimar should be sending you his vint Zib, so hold on for it (:

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    Not much time to smell today, so quick impressions.

    Secret de Venus: this morning. Rather sweet, disappeared before relevant animalics could be detected.
    Now, just before bed:
    Zibeline (recent): no relation with the pdt. For now, just sickly fruity sweetness. May be more interesting in the drydown? I put back on some pdt. I dont' know if it's because the pdt has turned, but there is no fruity sweetness.
    Weil de weil: green, green, vegetal, bitter mossy. Wonderful. Of course, a frag like this could simply not exist right now.

    cacio
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    I received the packet from Civetlady. Zibeline and Secret the venus. More goodies!

    So I just put on the two zibelines, perfume and bath oil. And now I tried on paper as well as skin. The perfume smells similar to jujy's pdt. The parfum perhaps has kept the top better, but we're in similar neighborhoods. On my skin, which tends to eat perfume, they both converge to the same fresh animalic note very quickly, perhaps some type of floral civet. I get a similar vibe to things like tabu and even, distantly, emeraude. But perhaps it's just that the style is so out of fashion that anything older will suggest associations.

    On paper, they retain the top notes much longer. The floral notes in the parfum are especially noticeable on paper, a beautiful clean aldehydic note. The pdt displays some but even on paper it is now in the base.

    The bath oil is quite different. It is stronger, as civetlady was saying. It has a very strong fresh top note, I'd call it mint, though it's not exactly mint. Now, 25 mins in, it is slowly moving towards something sweeter and more floral, but with the minty note still in place, with just a touch of animalic notes peeking through. But it still quite different from the alcohol forms. All very exciting sniffing!

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    Intriguing descriptions, cacio. Can't wait to sniff! And thank you Jujy for organizing all of this, and for letting a novice in on the fun. Currently on the lookout at estate sales for any other Weils to add to the selection. As a newbie, I'm especially curious about:

    1. the bath oil still being fresh(er) smelling. Is this common for vintage bath oil to retain freshness better than other concentrations?

    2. I know Jujy plans to eventually include some history-related links to the thread. Could any of you knowledgeable Weil aficionad(a)(o)s give some brief insider info on the house (history,quirks, and reputations beyond that typically found in guidebooks or databases)?

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    civetlady may know better about oil vs alcohol. To the nose, the Zibs definitely smell different, not just one having kept the top notes better. Modern western bath oils, which are more diluted, tend to be less strong than the alcohol version, and to last less. For instance, in the the labo oils they go directly into the middle and drydown phase. The Chanel is actually richer than the edt, though it doesn't have the crispness and freshness of the parfum. Since I just bought them, I don't know how they will last.

    As for some history of the house, perfumeshrine had a couple of articles (I remember one on zibeline).

    Now, a few more tests:
    Secret de venus, perfume from civetlady and modern edt/edp from jujy. As for Zib, very different. The modern, as said yesterday, is sugary fruity, and with an undistinguished, synth drydown. The parfum is a rich floral, with sweet notes but not cloying, with some resins showing up as it goes, and with a certain thick, oily feel.

    Yesterday, I also tried reve and secret. I don't know if I'm mixing them up, I forgot which arm had what.
    Reve had a citrusy top, more peel than fruit, lemon and citron too.
    Secret had a minty top and was a little sweet. One of the two had an incense feel in the middle, I forgot which one.

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    Trying Antilope by Weil, from a decant the vintage [50 years old] today for the first time, and while I'll note my olfactive skills aren't the best but working on them. after spilling 1/5 of the decant of it all over my wrist and using my wrists to apply it to the crook of my elbows. I set to work with a little sniffing. On the opening it's a big slap of florals, but really sticky and sweet like someone was crushing a bunch of cut flowers [stem and all] and cooking it down in a pot I get a bit of green-ness. When it begins to calm down I get sort of a soapy laundry detergent smell, and can begin picking out a few specific flowers, I get some rose maybe, jasmine, lily,[I'm not good at picking specific notes out but these are what came to mind] There's some soft warm wood stuff in there as well and a hint of chalkyness, not sure if it's dried down on me yet. will update in a little while with a drydown. Also throughout there's something tea-like in it
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    Yesterday, I also tried reve and secret. I don't know if I'm mixing them up, I forgot which arm had what.
    Reve had a citrusy top, more peel than fruit, lemon and citron too.
    Secret had a minty top and was a little sweet. One of the two had an incense feel in the middle, I forgot which one.

    cacio
    My note called Secret de Weil a mentholated rose, if that's any help, cacio.

    Hi, Beaux [everyone, Beauxbatons13 is a young friend of mine, a budding and avid fumista to whom I sent some Antilope],
    glad you have jumped into this thread. Good job identifying the flowers, to which I would add muguet (lily-of-the-valley). Interesting word, chalky, for the drydown. That could be musk or amber. I also detect something anisic, maybe tarragon. Others identify ylang-ylang, and I would agree.

    Anomie et ivoire, thanks for the reminder. Master Procrastinator that I am...oh, I'll do it later today. Promise!
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    I think the 'soft warm wood' I identified could be ylang ylang, I don't get much of an anise/licorice vibe from it I can see there being amber as I'm getting more of a rose-LOTV-jasmine/amber/chalk drydown on my wrists, and more of the flowers are floating to the top in the crook of my elbow still with a hint of the chalk and that tea-like scent.

    Edit- just did a tiny re-dab and the Anise/licorice note is at the top

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    The anise may be anisic aldehydes which would definitely chime in at the top. Good 'fume sleuthing!

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    Here is a comprehensive listing of Weil fragrances from Perfume Intelligence.

    I find their note identification to be accurate as far as those Weils I've experienced.
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    Smelled the last ones in the set, the Antilopes, comparing them, also on paper. Vintage antelopes are aldehydic floral-woody, with a touch of the Weil animalic base in the drydown. The 50s edt of civetlady seems to have more animalics than the other versions. The modern Antilopes are far simpler florals, but they are not, apparently, fruity florals as the other reissues. They also seem very fleeting. In any case, I must say that Antelope didn't wow me. Good, smooth, but there's no sparkle, nothing that makes them memorable to me or make me want to go back.

    In general about the samples. My skin eats perfumes, but the Weils seem to perform worse than most on me. Typically, they're straight to the drydown, no time for topnotes, and even the drydown isn't particularly powerful. I don't know if it's the temperature outside or just the Weil basenotes disagree with my skin. Smelling them on paper gives a different impression, because the middle notes are clearer and the perfume seems much richer. So I resmelled many of them on paper to get the whole story.

    Of the debasement of the modern versions we talked already. Not much else to add. Usually, they're inessential fruity florals.

    Favorites in the set are Weil de Weil, a dark green chypre (not a surprise given my taste) - I may check ebay from time to time. And Chunga, a dry floral. In jujy's link, it is described as a masculine - kudos, one of the few masculine florals ever created, and, as the other, it likely flopped miserably. As said, though, this one is also weak, so it would required Arabian style spraying.

    Then there are the Zibelines, I love the light "fresh animalic" base. But it is rather weak one me. Perhaps more abundant dabbing? I'd also like to see how it performs on furs, its advertised use. Fur keeps scents really well, so perhaps it was intentionally light.

    While they are not my favorites, I see myself wearing also some others. Secret de Venus (in its vintage form) has an interesting citrusy top. Citron but not quite; pine, but not quite, plus some assorted resins. Don't know why I missed it the first time I dabbed, probably I dabbed too little. Today it's clearly there. There is some of the nice animalic base, but not as intense as Zib. I liked also Bambou (nice floral chypre) and Padisha (vanillic oriental)

    The Secret de Venus Zibeline oil is very intense, but it is not the same as Zib parfum. In fact, it is much closer to the first part of the name, Secret de Venus, with a herbal note I described as minty, but now, smelled close, shows its similarities with the top of SdV. Looking around, I saw an old thread on Weil oils, some contributors seem to also indicate that the oil is a different perfume. If I were rich, I'd love to try it in its intended use.

    Sorry to take all this time to go through the samples - so many of them! Sometimes next week I'll ship off to cestrum nocturnum. Big, big thanks to jujy for organizing this wonderful and to me totally new pass the sample, and to civetlady for adding more vintage goodies!

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    Interesting. My vintage Antilope, both the EdT and the PdT, lasts forever on me (10+ hrs), and the drydown is a favorite, to my nose resembling vintage My Sin with less civet. I think the floral notes persist into the drydown which I like.

    In the meantime, I just added to my Weil collection, purchasing the masculine Kipling on ebay, so on arrival I'll send it to cestrum nocturnum, and a bit to you, too cacio. It's a leathery, woody fougere, by it's notes.
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    Strange on Antilope. Perhaps then it's just my nose which is anosmic to some of the base. Who knows. But when I smell it, it does indeed resemble My sin a bit, but with far less civet.

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    hi, everyone!

    Some news, some notes, some links.

    CivetLady was so kind and generous to send me samples of her vintage Weils, the ones she sent to cacio. Now, Weil perfumes started out as perfume for furs—the Weil family being furriers—so I decided to start with Mom's mink. Zibeline vintage pure perfume on the right sleeve, vintage Secret de Venus perfume to the left. Later I would test on skin.

    But, first I tried a bit of pure civet from CivetLady, diluted with jojoba oil. It is sweet, a bit smoky—so this is the fond du ashtray I detect in Miss Balmain!—no urine or fecal smell, just skin and for lack of a better descriptor "clean butt" smell (I really have to thank Chandler Burr for that descriptor). I get how this a platform for perfumery greatness.

    Now back to Zibeline and Secret de Venus vintage perfumes. My first impression is that fur is exactly where these scents belong. I love the smells, but not on me. Vintage Zibeline pure perfume on fur: I don't get the "mothball" accord from my own vintage Zib PdT; what I do get is a blast of bitter almond (heliotropin?) much like cacio's despised Malik al Atoor, could this be the coriander/tarragon top notes? After some luxurious floral emerges, tho I can't suss out specific notes. On my skin the beginning was similar, then fruit and spice, a smell I will encounter again in vint SdV. The civet note is sweet and a bit ashy. I asked my son what he smelled, and he said, "incense." Secret de Venus, as I mentioned is fruit and spice, and maybe a wood, since my notes include "antique store vibe." SdV on skin is more spice than fruit. Both perfumes are persistent, a very little goes along way. Conclusion: I'll save these for the mink. They truly add to the luxury in that venue.

    CivetLady also sent along the confusingly named Secret de Venus Zibeline bath oil. I can't remember where I read this, but the oils were more popular in America than Europe. I get a cool sensation plus ash at the beginning, and then the heliotropin-like bitterness.

    So, my curiosity about Weil is satisfied. For me Weil de Weil and Antilope are two I can't do without. Antilope is a go-to fragrance for me, one of those that I can wear over 50% of the time for 3 or 4 months at a stretch. Right now it isn't that scent, Oscar de la Renta's Volupté is, and come fall—who knows? I think cacio's so-so response to Antilope is actually related to my reliance on it, it is a quiet enough fragrance to wear without feeling overwhelmed. Weil de Weil is a green masterpiece, summed up brilliantly here in one sentence (cacio, you must, must read this!).

    now, as to links: perfume blogs seem to have fleeting histories, and the ones I bookmarked have largely disappeared. Here are a two I did find searching on "Weil perfume history"
    Perfume Shrine's history of Weil
    From The Vintage Perfume Vault
    which refers to the excellent but apparently defunct Scentzilla

    With that I turn it back to you, sniffers. When the Kipling arrives, I'll post some more.
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    Mentioning Zibeline and Malik al Atoor in the same sentence sounds almost blasphemous to me - but after the pass the sample, I am officially in the minority!

    Interesting as usual how we perceive things differently. Zib and SdV (and Antelope) made a rather different impression on me. And they were short lived. So it is really a matter of skin or nose. My skin must find Weils of its taste, because it eats them. Or my nose cancels out the florals there. Or both. The bath oil was more persistent also on me, but to me it had more similarities to SdV, not Zib; but here at least I will agree with cool plus ash (or mint plus dried something).

    And I fully agree with the one liner about Weil de Weil, especially since swamp from this world is instead a definition I've been using for countless perfumes which to me, but not to others, smell this way (Bas de soie, Love in white - not the only one on this-, Eden, now the latest Champagne/Yvresse, etc etc).

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    cacio, you slipped in a bon mot yourself a few comments back, to wit:

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    Of the debasement of the modern versions we talked already. Not much else to add. Usually, they're inessential fruity florals.
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    Hilariously, if unfortunately, that is indeed an olfactive family unto itself.
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    This thread is such a wealth of information! I have been avidly following everything and will enjoy perusing some of the more detailed websites linked kindly by jujy. Sorry for lurking a bit! I have really enjoyed reading the impressions thus far and I am so excited to try all of these rare treasures.

    Cacio, you are such an efficient sniffer and writer! It is truly an art to be concise and still capture the essence and character of a scent. It’s really very impressive! I can only hope to hone my own olfactory and descriptive skills as I experience more.

    Thank you again jujy, for being our fearless leader on this journey of Weil exploration!

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    ——>Revision to pass around participant list.<——

    Larimar has graciously declined, citing a surfeit of scent samples, so *....
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    On another ♪ note ♪:
    cacio, do you experience similarities btw Weil de Weil and Chanel 19? I pulled out my generous sample of the EdP, courtesy of TWolf, and am struck by the common galbanum, muguet, and hyacinth notes. Chanel seems more "seamless"—no swamp here!— and disappears on my skin faster, tho a multi-day test might wake up my nose, as often happens . In contrast to bittergracenotes succinct summation, yesterdaysperfume waxes rhapsodic, in addition to making the N° 19 connection. Among other things, they were both launched in 1971.

    ps cn, lurking is fine! We are all lurkers here!

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    Kipling EdT arrived. A well-behaved tobacco/leather masculine, not as daring or forceful as Yataga, to which it bears some resemblance. Cest, I shall send a decant on to you
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    I had a really long day today, but just a quick note to say that the lovely package welcoming one to the wonderful world of Weil arrived safely today!

    I love, love, LOVE No. 19 and will report back on any similarities to Weil de Weil, and look forward to the new addition of Kipling.

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    Actually, that was assonance.
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    Aha! Although alliteration also allows anterior vowels. lol!

    I started unwrapping some of the vials and the aroma was so delicious combined with the Mollie Parnis and wood of the box! I can’t wait to apply later today, but still deciding how to go about it most efficiently.

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    Indeed, so much stuff to smell. It might be interesting to wear different versions of the same perfume at the same time, to compare. Though it doesn't really make a difference to wear modern versions together with vintage, as the difference is very large. Also, as I wrote, many Weils seem to die quickly on me, in which case it makes sense to put on paper.

    As for Chanel 19, I wasn't thinking about it when smelling WdW, but now that you point out, there are some general similarities. But more in general, I see WdW as more of a green chypre than Chanel 19.

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    and assonance the interior!
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    Hello, I'm hijacking your hilarious yet helpful thread to inquire if anyone is familiar with Weil Eau de Fraicheur?
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    Yes, nothing like a fumehead to put too fine a point on absolutely any- and everything (even that previous hyphen is probably a matter of dispute, to say nothing of whether this parenthetical musing would be better served by an emdash).

    I'm not familiar with Eau de Fraicheur. It seems available and cheap, too. Fleur de Weil is rarer but not expensive on ebay. Now I'm wishing I had thought to scout around for those to include. My mind was on the animalic aspect when I thought this up.

    It would be cool to hear from anyone who has experience with these Weils.

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    I wantd to add that according to perfumeintelllgence.co.uk, Weil's noses included members of the Fraysse family. If anyone would like to flesh out the implications of that it would be welcome.

    Also, in my initial post for this thread I did not mention that the Weil that so captured my attention some 30 years ago was, indeed, the green, bitter chypre Weil de Weil that cacio also favors. It set the bar high for my further explorations in fragrance.
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    Thanks jujy- I went ahead and blind bought the Eau de Fraicheur anyway with the current 20% off promotion on Fragrancenet.
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    After the sniff, I bought on ebay a bottle of Chunga pdt: masculine floral is a must for me. I liked it on paper, though on skin it disappeared within 30 seconds. I hoped that abundant dousing would help. But no. It still disappear within 30 sec. The top is a very nice and oily bergamot floral. On paper, it stays a little longer. On my skin, it goes right away into a faint drydown of honey, tonka and some amber. Very very faint. Slightly better on cloth, but only so much. I read on fragrantica that some people call it a butch Antelope. But evidently my skin does not agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jujy54 View Post
    Yes, nothing like a fumehead to put too fine a point on absolutely any- and everything (even that previous hyphen is probably a matter of dispute, to say nothing of whether this parenthetical musing would be better served by an emdash).

    Aw, I hope I didn’t come across as obnoxious, jujy! I can never resist the musical allure of alliteration, and was just having some fun. I don’t ever want to leave anyone fuming. (Sorry, had to slip in a tacky pun, too.) I love all of your posts and comments, and far be it from me to be a judgmental grammarian. BTW, I went to one of those crazy schools with the supposedly “newest and best” educational methods (however, I think the students are actually just guinea pigs) and at the time, NOT teaching grammar was in vogue. My usage of language is intuitive at best!

    Thank you for all of your witty and informative posts, AND for this ***Fantabulous*** sample pass. (<-And I swear that is a real word!)

    I think I will follow cacio’s suggestion and try various of the same scent at the same time to compare and contrast. Paper sniffing is always something I forget to do! Thank you for the reminder!

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    oh, cn, we are both big kidders. of course, no offense taken, and, likewise, mine was just a reciprocal leg pull.

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    So far I have only seen the Secret de Venus, Secret De Venus Zibeline & Secret de Venus Antilope - mostly bath oils. They all seem to have that unique spicey/minty top note. I just acquired the SDV Antilope & it is similar, but more buttery soft than the other 2 SDVs. SDV Zib has more wood/resiny notes. Please excuse my terminology for the notes, I'm still very much a newbie at this, but i do know what I like!

    On the Houbigant civet oil (copy care of "dusty rose perfumery"), this used to be my Go To scent in my 20s for evenings on the town....probably the closest thing to my signature scent. It is definitely a Long Lost Perfume, and quite honestly not as much Civet in it compared to Bal V or La Nuit for instance, but a very unique and beautiful fragrance from the 70s.
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