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    Default Re: French Perfumery vs Arabic Perfumery

    Quote Originally Posted by hedonist222 View Post
    Thanks for the clarification, hedonist.

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    Default Re: French Perfumery vs Arabic Perfumery

    The closest I've come to Arabic perfumery still has its "feet" in Europe:

    Madini: Some fascinating, eye-opening fragrances (dark, non-sweet, woody, resinous, smoky, green) but many that appeared to be affordable versions of European style perfume. Also, I fault them for trying to cash in on all-natural claims by deceptive marketing.

    Amouage: Modern and expensive, heavy on frankincense, rose, and resin. Darker, more somber and sultry than French.

    Montale: At first, amazing, with its bold rose and oud scents. Then became overdone with iterations. Still, they helped make rose a masculine scent for Westerners.

    Souk market perfumes: Cheap and one-dimensional, like American head-shop fragrances. Most are not worth the money, even though they're cheap.

    Serge Lutens, enabled Chris Sheldrake to feature Arabic ingredients in French perfumery in a way that brought the aromas of labdanum, benzoin, and dried fruits to the attention of the Western public.

    My vote? French with Middle-Eastern influence. They've learned a lot since YSL Opium...
    Last edited by purplebird7; 11th November 2013 at 07:31 PM.

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    Default Re: French Perfumery vs Arabic Perfumery

    What a great and informative thread.

    It reminds me of perfumes I smelt as a child that were brought back from the middle east. Wonder if I will ever smell these again. This thread also reminds me of the message of Arabic perfumes Cavafy wrote about (among other messages).


    As you set out for Ithaka
    hope the voyage is a long one,
    full of adventure, full of discovery.
    Laistrygonians and Cyclops,
    angry Poseidon—don’t be afraid of them:
    you’ll never find things like that on your way
    as long as you keep your thoughts raised high,
    as long as a rare excitement
    stirs your spirit and your body.
    Laistrygonians and Cyclops,
    wild Poseidon—you won’t encounter them
    unless you bring them along inside your soul,
    unless your soul sets them up in front of you.

    Hope the voyage is a long one.
    May there be many a summer morning when,
    with what pleasure, what joy,
    you come into harbors seen for the first time;
    may you stop at Phoenician trading stations
    to buy fine things,
    mother of pearl and coral, amber and ebony,
    sensual perfume of every kind—
    as many sensual perfumes as you can;
    and may you visit many Egyptian cities

    to gather stores of knowledge from their scholars.

    Keep Ithaka always in your mind.
    Arriving there is what you are destined for.
    But do not hurry the journey at all.
    Better if it lasts for years,
    so you are old by the time you reach the island,
    wealthy with all you have gained on the way,
    not expecting Ithaka to make you rich.

    Ithaka gave you the marvelous journey.
    Without her you would not have set out.
    She has nothing left to give you now.

    And if you find her poor, Ithaka won’t have fooled you.
    Wise as you will have become, so full of experience,
    you will have understood by then what these Ithakas mean.
    'When asked what dowry the spartan girl was providing to the noble spartan warrior marrying her, the poor girl said: "my fathers common sense" '.

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