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    Default What is your favorite sunscreen/sunblock for your face?

    I need something more protective than the spf 15 sunscreen I've been using, Aveno (I think? From the drugstore. Or else it's Eucerin. I get them mixed up. ). It is fine for Virginia, but I'm finding I need some better protection here in Florida where the sun is much more intense than I am accustomed to. I don't wear much makeup so I don't have that extra layer of protection. It is also very humid here, so I don't want anything extra moisturizing or greasy. Just trying to get some recommendations. Drugstore/Sephora is fine. If it costs more than $25 or so, I won't buy it. It must WORK! My face is turning red. Thanks very much!

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    I bought La Roche Posay Anthelios Ultra Light 60 Sunscreen Fluid about 2 weeks ago and I love it. I use it instead of a face cream (avoiding the areas around the eyes). It has not given me a rash and it has a matte finish. I was told at Shoppers Drugmart here in Canada that it is currently the number one sunblock on the market. Its average rating on makeupalley.com is 4.1. For the body I use Ombrelle spf 60 with good results.

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    Thanks, Screaming Monkey.

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    lilybelle - I carry Khiel's Super Fluid UV Defense SPF50+ when I travel, and use it if I find myself somewhere really sunny. It's pretty expensive, but it only takes a few drops and it goes on super smooth. It's not pastey at all. It's a liquid and comes in a dropper bottle. Just put a few drops on your face and rub it around. It's $36 for a 50ml bottle, And there's a bigger one too.

    Its a splurge, but it's really good stuff. It feels more like a quality skin care product than a heavy duty sunscreen. I haven't tried many others, though.
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    The standard CVS higher protection creams (30 or 60) have worked well for me so far. As you know, though, if it's humid and you sweat, you have to reapply through the day, no matter what the protection factor.

    If you have makeup on and cannot reapply, on a youtube video I saw a suggestion for a Peter Roth powdery thing you can put on top of make up through the day with spf 25 or the like. I gave it as a gift to my sister, but haven't heard whether and how it works.

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    I have your answer, Dearest. If they have Wallgreens in 'Da, get their generic knock off of "Neutrogena" 70SPF for the face: It's 8.99 for a tube. It's actually better than the original Neutragena--not as greasy--and it WORKS. If they don't have Wallgreens in 'Da, then just try the Neutragena--it's the best: Also, it doesn't give you "Clown Face." (I think it's called "Dry Touch" or something) I'm a PRO at sunscreen as I need HIGH SPF every day regardless of the sun--out or not--it's on me: With SPF technology you must RE-APPLY at least twice a day--better three times a day--and stay in the shade! wear a hat, stay in the shade, and wear that sunscreen all over your body--especially on your hands, face and feet. Remember that you *MUST* re-apply. No SPF works all day, and even casual exposure is lethal. Put it on 30 minutes before you leave the house in the morning and re-apply about four hours later. A little bit of powder on your face and hands helps with the greasiness. Coty Air-spun is good--as it is very absorbant and comes in that fetching Diagliev-designed box. Carry a hanky with you if you need to touch your eyes--if you do so with sunscreen on your hands you'll be sorry! 15-20-25 SPF is NOT ENOUGH. You need 70 at least. Just trust me on this. That powder sunscreen is for the birds. I think CVS does a knock off of Neutragena as well--it's fascinating that the knock offs are better than the original. 70-100SPF sunscreen + Coty air spun powder (apply with brush, not puff) and you should be perfect. Neither are expensive, and both are excellent.
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    For my face, I use Paula's Choice Sun Care Weightless Finish Sunscreen Spray (SPF 30).
    Not sure about the price in $.
    It is clear in colour and light in texture, colour and fragrance free and not tested on animals.

    Rubegon - Gonna check out your recommendation. Sounds cool.

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    Thank you so much for the replies and the good advice! Walgreens and CVS are both just down the street. I could walk over if I wanted to. But I won't until I get my sunblock. I have a big straw hat but the wind blows it off. I need to put a ribbon or string on it to tie under my chin. Lilybelle in a sunbonnet indeed! Kiehl's, I think, is sold in the mall at Nordies or something. That sounds interesting, too.
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    I agree with MdM 100 % about the SPF 70 and his recommendations to slather it all over not just your face.
    My dermatologist also said that SPF 15 is not enough and recommends no less than SPF 70 .
    I use the Neutrogena SPF 70 Face Ultra Sheer Liquid and I use it on my chest ,hands ,feet. This one really does wonders under makeup and is non greasy . I also use Nuetrogena Age Shield Face sunblock lotion in SPF 70 - it's thicker and use that on my legs as well .
    I have not tried the drugstore knock offs but I will now !
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    Hey, Mims!

    I was passing by Walgreens so I went in and bought Neutrogena Age Shield Face spf 110, and Walgreens (knockoff of Neutrogena) Sheer Dry-Touch Sunscreen spf 100+. Each has a long list of ingredients I can't pronounce, which hopefully are less harmful than getting roasted in the sun every day. Interesting that beeswax is in both. The Walgreens one was $11.99 and the Neutrogena was $8.99. I bought both because the Walgreens one doesn't say it's for the face, but with all the ingredients in the "Face" one I don't suppose it matters either way.

    Thank you again! I still want to take a look at the Kiehl's liquid with the dropper that Rubegon recommends. I didn't see the other ones. I have one in a spray can that I bought at a surf/flipflop shop on some beach trip, called Australian Gold, which is for the body, but it isn't strong enough. It smells like pina coladas, though, and makes me feel cheery. I don't even have to drink them to feel good, all I need is to smell them.

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    Hey Lilybelle !

    Oh goodie- I'm so glad you stocked up on the SPF ! The higher the better IMHO.
    Some facialists and beauticians have disapproved of any SPF higher than 25 as they said there is no extra effect and the chemicals are bad for the skin. However, I will take my dermatologist's advice over theirs any day .
    I still use my tinted moisturizer with SPF 15 in it but underneath that is the Neutrogena SPF 70 .
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    In Europe I don't think sunscreens can display more than a certain SPF factor. I think part of the reason is that they don't want people to fall into false impressions, that with 110 one can stay protected the whole day. As others said above, no matter what the protection factor, one has to reapply through the day.

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    Cacio, I suppose higher spf just means extra protection for the length of time that it stays on skin, not that it stays on skin longer (?). I am trying to get into the sunscreen habit, but I don't like it. I am really lazy about skin care, but the sun here is too intense not to take precautions. So...update: I slathered up before walking the dog for her after-dinner walk just now, which is the HOTTEST part of the day here, much hotter than at noon. These new sunscreens I just bought are still too thick and greasy for me, even though the label claims "non-greasy". I suppose I just have to get used to it. Maybe I should go back and get the airspun powder, MdM. I forgot that. I'm still going to check out the Kiehl's when I get a chance, and this gloppier stuff will be good for cooler weather so it won't go to waste. Or maybe I'll get used to it. Maybe I'll get addicted to it.

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    Lilybelle- I also dislike wearing SPF but I have to .The sun here is really very strong - like the desert.
    If I am out and about ,I bring my SPF with me and I re apply every 4 hours or so. Really a nuisance but better than brown spots and skin cancer etc.
    At the end of the day , a good shower and scrub is needed to remove it all. I find SPF lotion picks up a lot of grime and dust .
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    I've been more religious about using sunscreen lately, too..

    I just read something that says we don't apply enough- If you're using all over- use at least a shotglass worth.

    Lines I like:
    Paula's Choice
    IMAGE (a lot of esthiticians push this brand)
    Mission Skincare Athlete Fast Drying 30+ spray
    Neutrogena- the Dry one

    My favorite wouldn't be suitable for the humidity but it's:
    Humphreys' Organic Botanicals witch hazel & jasmine sensitive skin Lotion with spf 18. I use this as a basic moistuizer & apply everything else over it.

    I reapply sunblock to the back of my hands everytime i wash them, so if I've bought something that makes my face break out or feel greasy I save that brand for the "hand job"
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    I'm currently taking Accutane, for my cystic acne, and one of the side effects is that it makes your skin more fragile. Because of that I have to wear sunscreen to go outside, because my skin is more vulnerable to the sun. I like Neutrogena's Clear Face with Helioplex, SPF 55 'Ultra-Light, Oil-free, Waterproof', doesn't make my skin feel greasy and makes my face really soft.

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    Nonsense for the 25 SPF--you need 70-100, end of discussion. In europe, our "100" is their "50." (you divide by two: That's why you won't find 100 in europe) The best is that Wallgreens Neutragena knock off "Dry Touch" -- it doesn't matter if it says face or not--in fact--I don't like the face one, me. Also: the spray ones are useless. Furthermore useless: The khiels ones w/the needlenose dropper. No go. Fine for people with olive skin. Not OK for tighty whities like us. We need the thick stuff. I'm telling you: Go w/the Wallgreens knock off--don't worry if it's the face one or not--put it all over everywhere--remember your shoulders, decolletage, and HANDS & FEET (if wearing sandals) Tops of your boobs. Legs if they are exposed. Upper back. Remember: If you're wearing, say, a white cotton blouse--that's like wearing nothing. Once you've slathered it on, wait a while, then buff out all over with Coty Air Spun loose powder--with a brush--then just make sure you carry a clean soft hanky at all times because you'll be sorry if you touch your eyes. The one Kheils product that IS good--is their under-eye sunscreen--which comes in a tube like chapstick--the tube is black--That's good because it protects that area where you can't really let sunscreen get near because it "creeps" and you end up a mess. (teary eyes) Regardless of all of this: Seek out the SHADE AT ALL TIMES--and re-apply, re-apply, re-apply. As I said above: Just trust me on this one. I've been using high SPF sunscreen since the 70's when it was like chalk paste. (I'm quite allergic to the sun) I've tried everything--and I know what works--and I also know what doesn't. These low dose semi-liquid ones (like the kheil's one rube's into) are NOT for us. Of course, the best product in the world, which I would sooner starve than be without, is Sisley's ALL DAY ALL YEAR. That's a SUN SHIELD--no SPF at all--but 100% sun protection: nothing gets through--all day. Problem is--I would be willing to bet more people spend $490.00 on rent than sun protection--but the unit does last a good three months--it's just for the face, though. I use this every day, and then UNDER the heavy ones if i'm in hawaii or somewhere like 'Da or LA. Last June in Europe I almost died: It was just too much. I hate Europe in the summer. (I live a car (car has sun shield windows) to building life--I'm never outside or near a window when the suns out: My consulting rooms have NO windows--I had them walled over) Nonsense to the derms that say it's too much. ANY SUN is too much when you're thin skinned and fair. Even when I have all that sunscreen on, a hat, and a black cotton "sun coat" on in Hawaii I STILL turn pink--so it just goes to show......
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    I do hear you, MdM. I can't afford the Sisley's, but I am trying to remember to slather up everywhere, and stay in the shade. I DO wear white and light cotton things! My skin is turning pink - it isn't sunburn, it's a reaction to the heat. Stepping outside is like stepping into a blindingly lit sauna. I once saw a dermatologist who told me I must never ever expose my skin to the sun. And I said, "Well, I can't live in the dark like a mole." He said, "Yes, you must live just like a mole."

    Knit, I heard/read somewhere about the shotglass amount too. That's a LOT.
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    Yes it is a lot, but I'm getting better at gooping it on.

    Another idea- you may have seen the sunblock hats at costco?

    There's also travel company named Magellan's. They sell a whole line up of spf clothing. magellans.com their HQ is near me so I haunt their annual sales to buy my walking shoes.


    Quote Originally Posted by lilybelle View Post
    I do hear you, MdM. I can't afford the Sisley's, but I am trying to remember to slather up everywhere, and stay in the shade. I DO wear white and light cotton things! My skin is turning pink - it isn't sunburn, it's a reaction to the heat. Stepping outside is like stepping into a blindingly lit sauna. I once saw a dermatologist who told me I must never ever expose my skin to the sun. And I said, "Well, I can't live in the dark like a mole." He said, "Yes, you must live just like a mole."

    Knit, I heard/read somewhere about the shotglass amount too. That's a LOT.
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    Knit - I wear a sunblock hat ! *LOL* I bought it in LA and it is SPF 55- every little helps ! I wear it everyday walking to and from my gym and at home, outside pottering about. I am sure I look odd but who cares.......
    There is a reason my husband calls me 'Daywalker' as in ......vampire from the Blade series of movies.
    I really do not like the sun .
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    My mother has a costco membership. I am definitely going to look for one of those hats, Knit!

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    The brand that's worked the best for me is Fallene Total Block. They have a clear spf 65 or a tinted spf 60.
    Also, sun protection clothing is great and works very well. Coolibar is a great company that has large selection of clothing and hats. I've used their products for years. (no affiliation with Coolibar)

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    I don't believe in sunblocks (or any health benefits) and don't use them. I try to keep my face out of the sun (shade, hat) and that's it. If I know sun exposure is inevitable it is sun protection spf 15-20 for the face.
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    Hello all - I purchased hats & rash guards (sun shirts that can go in the water) from Coolibar. Very good stuff!

    Lilybelle - I also have used the Sisley in the past. I have very sensitive skin, and the Sisley was one of the few things that worked well for me. It is quite a ways out of your price range, though. (It was a little much for me, too -- plus, I wanted to try something lighter). For the past few years, I've been using a Shiseido line that can only be purchased in Japan (I ask friends and family who are visiting to buy me some! Crazy!). One thing that seems very similar, though -- is the Clarins sunscreen. They usually put a 2-pack on sale at the Nordies Anniversary Sale (going on now, not affiliated). I checked the Nordstrom website, and the 2-pack is there. I think you can also just buy one small bottle. I like the Clarins, 'though I do wish they didn't scent that stuff. If memory serves, the 2-packs would quickly sell out during past Anniv. Sales, but they still have them on their site (so I bet you will be able to find them in the store).

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    I really like BB creams and tinted mat finish moisturizers on my face. SPF 15 or 30. Lancome, Eizabeth Arden, Biotherm have very good mat finish tinted products. Love the cooling ingredients in Lancome and Biotherm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by le mouchoir de monsieur View Post
    Nonsense for the 25 SPF--you need 70-100, end of discussion. In europe, our "100" is their "50." (you divide by two: That's why you won't find 100 in europe) The best is that Wallgreens Neutragena knock off "Dry Touch" -- it doesn't matter if it says face or not--in fact--I don't like the face one, me. Also: the spray ones are useless. Furthermore useless: The khiels ones w/the needlenose dropper. No go. Fine for people with olive skin. Not OK for tighty whities like us. We need the thick stuff. I'm telling you: Go w/the Wallgreens knock off
    I got a couple tubes of the Walgreens Dry-Touch SPF100. It's pretty thick, but seems like it coats well. I've been using it daily when I'm not traveling on my hands, face, and neck.

    A strange thing happened when I applied it all over my arms (short sleeves) as well as face and neck this past weekend. About 15 minutes after spreading it on, my skin was beaded with sweat everywhere I applied it. It says on the bottle to apply it some time before exposure, and I went out into the heat right away. I supposed this spontaneous perspiration had something to do with my going out into the sun immediately after applying. Any ideas?

    The Khiel's is nice for a couple of reasons - it's much faster to apply because it's more liquidy and blends in faster, and it seems to go a long way. This makes it very nice to travel with. It does seem pretty pricey for what it is though.
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    I'm SUPER pale for a person who actually shouldn't be super pale. Teen goth and a love of Retin-A gave birth to sun hate, but I refuse to do the everyday sunscreen thing. That could result in some mutant sun sensitivity like parents over-sanitizing the environment may have given rise to more allergies and sensitivities. But for direct exposure or anything longer than a few minutes ...

    Sunscreen lemming alert: I tried the Neutrogena and Walgreens sunscreens recommended to Lilybelle. Excellent stuff! No breakout reaction (oily-sunscreen hating skin here, oh yes, sexy I know), lightness and not smelly! The Neutrogena Age Shield for face and then Walgreens for body has been a recent EPIC combo for when my well-meaning Midwestern friends force me to sit by pools (satanists! fiends! all of them...sun worshippers ).

    If anyone wants something organic, Badger brand has given me consistently good results over the years, especially the one intended for babies.

    Similarly to ScreamingMonkey: I like La Roche-Posay Anthelios Melt-In Sunscreen Milk, SPF 60, but a few too many bells and whistles, though not too expensive at $15-20/5 oz.
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    UPDATE...

    Well, I couldn't find the sunblock hat at Costco here in Boca Raton, Florida. They had friggin' shearling (faux) lined boots, though, in the middle of Florida high summer(!!). No hats to be found. I'll check out Coolibar, RainDropSparkle. So far, I've been dashing from the car to wherever, and my main exposure is when walking the dog, which is four times a day, so it is actually fairly considerable exposure for me.

    Larimar, lucky you if you don't burn!!

    Rube, I have found that the thick stuff makes my face sweat as well. I've been using makeup over it - the full enchilada (for me) of the thick Neutrogena face stuff, a MAC primer, a light Clinique foundation, and MAC powder. And the Walgreen's Dry-Touch on arms and legs - just the exposed parts. I'm getting used to it, but I really hated it at first. I think MdM's recommendation of a powder over it is a good one, but I can't quite see you embracing the Coty Airspun for some reason. I find if I apply it well before going out it helps reduce the greasy/sweaty thing. DO NOT get it in yours eye. I got some in my eye today. Yikes! Anyway...it is doing the job. I feel like I'm less red looking. I do not tan. Don't forget behind your ears, your ears, and the back of your neck, too.

    Anomie et Ivoire, when I was a little girl all we had was white zinc oxide and that was it for sunblock. Everything else was oily, meant to cook your skin in the sun. I loved the beach, and I had several pretty bad burns as a child. My mother couldn't keep me away from the beach. When we were away on beach vacations together I would go down in the morning to have breakfast by myself in the hotel dining room (my mother has never been a morning person, but I am), go straight to the beach afterward, and I would stay there all day until my mother made me come upstairs. When I became lobster red she would make me stay off the beach and bathe me in vinegar, which was supposed to...??? take the sting out? Eventually the burn would peel and fade but I would never ever tan. I spent a lot of time in cover ups. I suppose I am a prime candidate now for the scary skin stuff. But...I am whistling past the graveyard on that one. I won't think about it.

    I don't do well with retin-A or hydroxy acids or any of that. It always irritates my skin.
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    Nothing like a good, meaty sunscreen pow-wow. I'm in Heaven. I'm so glad that you all have had good results with the Neutrogena/Wallgreens recommendation. I just got back from the MOST beautiful getaway very high, high, high in the mountains--very "the Shining" (minus the snow & the horror)--and, to the absolute amazement of my companion, who is so fair she really can't possibly risk *any* exposure, sunscreen or not, and must cover head to foot, including enormous floppy hat, I morphed into a river-dipping no-shirt-no-shoes-wearing hippie: I even surprised myself. If you could have seen just how breathtaking this area was, and how clean the water--roaring, crashing streams and rivers everywhere--and our abode had balconies and terraces right over one: We did attend all the obligatory parties--however--as soon as everyone's back was turned, nobody could keep me out of that water! (it was a kind of "never before" experience for me) By Sunday--I had shape shifted into an whole other person--once I got the hang of it, there was no stopping me. Plus, there were no icky fish or beasts in the water, or slimy rocks, or anything that was unappealing--the water was so pure you could drink it. I'm not *really* sorry I'm now a uniform medium shade of pink--as everyone has been raving about how this "glow" is becoming, (shocking for me: I'm not quite sure who I am now. My eyes, especially, look strange to me--nothing looks right when I look in the mirror) but i certainly did find out that you burn even after the sun sets, and before it rises, when you're me, because those were the *only* times I was frolicking about in the rivers and streams and sitting on the rocks, while my companion sat and watched, giggling and throwing me strips of smoked salmon while I barked like a seal. During the day, I was layering on 4 and 5 products--and even using the so-called waterproof ones after/before sunset--and still I've turned pink. The discovery of the weekend came in my companion's make up bag: AVENE EAU THERMALE 50 VISAGE. I knew Avene, but i'd never seen it outside of Europe. This is the BEST--it's tinted pink: a sort of soft shell pink, very pale, and actually unifies and makes the skin look beautiful: Also, it does NOT feel like make-up. I'll do a lot, but I can't feel as though I have make up on my face. (I almost died of sun poisoning as a small child. My mother was then so alarmed that I was made to suffer through the old sunscreens from the 70's, which were like chalk and shortening mixed together: It took me up until about 1981 to start loving them, as they made me look whiter, which was chic, and it was then that I discovered the ruse of plastering the whole thing down with bone white powder bringing about kabuki whiteness that was actually convincing. In short--I've *never* had a tan--when I had the sun poisoning incident I must have been 1 or 2. Clearly this complete removal from the sun has rendered me far more sensitive than I ever would have been otherwise) At any rate: This AVENE.......Fabulous. -and not too expensive- It's French, so the 50spf would be 100 on the american scale: The best part about it is that this soft pink colour it has seems to make your skin look so much better! I think I usually look waxy and dead (and unfortunately it's no longer the 80's) and the tiny wee bit of pink just works. I suppose I shouldn't even call it pink: It's actually more of a very pale flesh tone. At any rate--I'm still pink--but I don't regret it because I had so much fun!!!!! Now I want to leave everything and permanently remove up there--however--just *the thought* of snow in that environment is enough to keep me under control. I detest snow. To get up there, there is but one winding torturous road--they filmed "The Shining" in these mountains--so you might imagine what it looks like--Thinking about being trapped up there for six months--snowed in--Ugh! *shiver*
    "...a Chacun son Mauvais Gout."

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    MdM, your mountain holiday sounds like Shangri-La. Perhaps your glow is due to happiness and fun. I'm with you on the subject of snow. If I never saw it again I wouldn't care. Avene sounds interesting. Well, I'm wearing a thick coating today. I have finally managed to make this a part of my morning routine. No wonder people here are late risers (comparatively)...it takes forever to get ready to go out.

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