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    Default Re: New Kerosene - Fields of Rubus

    No, but $60 more seems a bit exaggerated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auslander View Post
    No, but $60 more seems a bit exaggerated.
    Or it costs him more to produce now and his initial price is no longer viable to continue running his company. It's also not exclusive to MiN, he sells at a few other websites as well. $140 for a 100 ml bottle really isn't outrageous at all to charge for a guy making his own fragrance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by auslander View Post
    No, but $60 more seems a bit exaggerated.
    Do you really not understand the retail business?

    He sells to Min for $70.00 a bottle. MiN sells for normal markup of double the cost for $140.00.

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    I don't understand this continual harping about Kerosene's prices. I think most of us would agree that the jump from $90 to $140 is a bit much. I remember a few years ago when Lorenzo Villoresi's 100 ml bottles went from $90 to $120 (now $135), that seemed like a big leap to me at the time and this is even more extreme. That said, Olivier Durbano's line went from $125 to $190 last year, so a small perfumer selling his perfumes at $140 for 100 ml is not at all out of line with what is going on out there in perfume land. L'Artisan is $135-$165. Serge Lutens is $120-$140 for 50 ml bottles and we aren't spending all of this time complaining about that. Yes, Kerosene is new and not "professionally" trained. So what? If you don't like his fragrances, or don't think they're worth what he's asking, don't buy them. I'm not a huge fan of his work so far, but I certainly don't think he's ripping anybody off.

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    Default Re: New Kerosene - Fields of Rubus

    Just put this on my "next to try" list.

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    I was just about to post regarding the price. Looks like I was beaten to it.
    Would you guys say his fragrances are "niche quality?"

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    There's no way he can do what what was accomplished by the perfumers in the 80s, IMO, so I don't have much interest, but that's true of all new releases. They all lack at least one major element, so the best would be something like Acqua di Gio, which doesn't have any major flaws but I wouldn't pay more than perhaps $25-30 for 100 ml. The reason? I would rather go to Perfumer's Apprentice and buy ingredients, then try to put together the kind of frag I'm seeking. And that way ingredient quality won't be an issue. However, right now I've got so many frags I like and hardly ever wear that I see no point in trying to concoct a frag that might be a little different than something I already have and enjoy. Others, of course, may be in a very different position and wiling to pay at least double what Kerosene is asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auslander View Post
    I remember when Kerosene first announced R'Oud Elements on YouTube. He was selling it and another one through Etsy at $80 a bottle, if I recall well. Now his perfumes are exclusive for MiN and they go for $140. Now don't tell me that MiN charges $60 for featuring your creations, cause I don't believe you.

    "My first official fragrance release, all handcrafted myself, R'oud Elements, with notes of Oud, Sandalwood, Amber, Vanilla, Lavender, Iris, and Orange Bitters.

    Woods. Warmth. Man.

    3.4oz bottle for $90 shipped in U.S. - $95 shipped International."
    Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if MinNY did take a chunk of it similar to that amount...that's the cost of business. You're not really thinking it though, most stores mark up their items 25-50% in order to make a profit, otherwise it's not worth their time.

    I think everyone should stop complaining about prices when they have no idea what the story is, just &$^*ing enjoy the fragrance or not.

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    Have no idea what MiN's mark-up is, but anybody who knows anything about the cost of doing business in Manhattan and/or anybody who has seen the cash the owners have dropped on making it an inviting store will know that they need to charge a significant amount on top of whatever it costs them to buy fragrances to stay in business. Furthermore, I don't know John, but I have found all of his fragrances that I have tried well-crafted (if not all "me") and the bottles are quite attractive and unique. $140 seemed not in the least out-of-line.

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    Definitely interested in trying Fields of Rubus.

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    I now have a bottle of FoR. Unlike anything I have smelled before (not that my experience is encyclopedically wide)--it's heavy and warm, and the raspberry is there, but with no resemblance to the "fruity" note in cheap contemporary feminines. Smells more like actual fruit, and it harmonizes surprisingly well with the wood/patchouli/tobacco elements that background it. FoR puts me in mind of a sort of 1970's post-hippie aesthetic (a general aesthetic, that is, not a fragrance one)--weathered barnboard, herbs, blackberries overrunning an old orchard. It's sweet, obviously, but not at all cloying: for all its domestic associations it says more "outdoors" to me than "inside."

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    I have to admit, this fragrance was pretty cloying to me. Scored a 5ml sample. Used it sparingly. Found myself annoyed by it. Sugar dipped raspberries is right.

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    Default Re: New Kerosene - Fields of Rubus

    Had the chance to smell the whole line this evening, as my sister had just received a sample set.

    Everyone to their own taste of course, but after some backing and forthing, this was the one that I found most interesting.

    ...Aside from Whips and Roses that is, but I REALLY wanted to smell that one on a woman.

    Or what I mean is....maybe I just want to meet the particular kind of woman who would wear it.

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