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    Default Re: Why do so many men not like Chanel's Blue de Chanel?

    It's generic, synthetic mess, and made for most men, who do not know anything about the art of fragrances.

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    Default Re: Why do so many men not like Chanel's Blue de Chanel?

    Quote Originally Posted by NewHaarlem View Post
    It's generic, synthetic mess, and made for most men, who do not know anything about the art of fragrances.
    I do not agree with the last point but I do agree with the two first points.

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    Default Re: Why do so many men not like Chanel's Blue de Chanel?

    My feelings about it have nothing to do with how popular it is. I just find it muddled and dull, nothing more, nothing less.

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    It is not a bad scent, But I have a lot nicer fragrances in my wardrobe to ever want to touch this one. It just honestly reminds me of way too many mid to late 90's designer scents that have some citrus in it. So yes it definitely is generic and I do find it synthetic, but it is not a scent that would offend anyone around you when you wear it. Funny part is if I decided to buy cologne as a gift for a friend not into fragrances and not knowing what he liked I would either get them Bleu or Guerlain homme since they are so safe. perfect example of mainstream/generic fragrance.

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    People resent the success and resurgence of "pop" music but still it is great to listen to - almost addictive. The beats, the repeating rhthym, the auto tuned vocals that soar with repeating hooks - it's addictive to listen to without really being great, but it is effective. This is Bleu de Chanel to me - an auto tuned, big fragrance formula for success with the masses. Bleu de Chanel is the designer fragrance equivalent of a "pop" Auto Tuned Top 10 Hit. It is effective and works for what it was designed for.

    I have more resentment for the acceptance of the marketed image of the fragrance formula and how well people have accepted this "look" and marketing story for Bleu and associate this image with the way the fragrance smells. Doesn't smell dark and blue or mysterious at all to me. The dark blue bottle, mysterious "Bleu" and the image of the face model in the ads is very "bleu" and mysterious, but the fragrance itself is a generic perfectly tuned modern light aromatic woods. But the public bought the marketing story, totally. Its a huge hit. It smells very good, but nothing too special to me. When I want to smell in this general genre of fragrance pleasantness I usually reach past my Bleu bottle and grab Frapin's L' Humaniste instead, which is such a much better alternative. But I do occasionally wear Bleu and it is definitely fine as well. Nobody notices the Chanel on me because they are used to my more aggressive fragrant habits.
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    Default Re: Why do so many men not like Chanel's Blue de Chanel?

    I love Cartier Declaration Bois Bleu--I rarely hear anyone mention it. It's so rich and unique to me.

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    Default Re: Why do so many men not like Chanel's Blue de Chanel?

    I ask myself the same question. It has what many look after - complexity, sillage and longevity.

    As to complexity, there is a paper - like top note I really enjoy, the citric top notes are realistic, diverging significantly from the woody base. I can get vetiver (which I love) somewhere between the journey. Now, this citric / acquatic / woody proposal has been done ad nauseam, so yes, it can be described as generic.

    Moreover, many BNoters are very conservative when it comes to scents - Blue smells contemporary, which can be a bad thing for many. For comparison's sake, the original Antaeus, Egöiste and Monsieur are much more to many BN's liking (which is my case).

    However, I think it is better than many other ones that are blended after the same template. The case reminds me of Egöiste Platinum, there are many blends like it, but Chanel`s is, I think, better. I guess this applies to Blue.

    Two digressions: it has not been a success down here. Terre is a hit among lawyers and high-end managers, 1 Million (and its knock offs) has been a hit among youngsters. As to Blue, sales are "decent" according to a stockist. Asked about points in common with Bvlgari Men and Guerlain Homme, he told me consumers are not aware of this.

    My second digression is... don't ask me why, I have the hunch it will be end up being a classic some years from now.

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    Default Re: Why do so many men not like Chanel's Blue de Chanel?

    Simply down to taste. It's nothing more. Everyone's senses are different and some people find what to you or me find pleasant, smells offensive to them.
    It's a fragrance that has grown on me. And I will always have (finances allowing) in my collection.

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    Default Re: Why do so many men not like Chanel's Blue de Chanel?

    A combination of a) suffering from high expectations of Chanel, and b) lack of originality. Whenever I smell Bleu, I am reminded of Ben Stiller's "Blue Steel." An exercise in excess and a caricature of its genre.

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    Default Re: Why do so many men not like Chanel's Blue de Chanel?

    On here or in the real world? On here it's considered a generic fragrance with some thinking it's too chemical smelling. In the real world (and the one that matters), it sells extremely well and is extremely well liked by those that smell and wear it. I think the question you should ask is "Why does a designer fragrance have to live up to niche tastes."


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    I think it's an okay scent for work perhaps. I don't own a bottle but I've tried in a store once or twice.

    The reason I think it is so disliked is not really down to the fragrance itself (it's pleasant but generic) - it's more of a backlash against Chanel.

    For many people on Basenotes, it is simply not worthy of their name.

    I wish Chanel would take more risks - that's where their classics came from in the past.

    Clearly, we live in a different age and that's not going to happen when so much money ,marketing and advertising is at stake.

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    Default Re: Why do so many men not like Chanel's Blue de Chanel?

    I have given it several tries, but I don't like it for the following reasons...

    Smells very "chemically" synthetic, like the very worst sort of cheap drugstore fragrances.
    Is certainly not the usual high standard of quality ingredients associated with Chanel fragrances.
    Lacks personality and character. Is much too generic.
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    It's not a bad scent, but I don't consider it a great scent either. If I was to score Bleu on a scale of A to F, I'd give it a solid "B." I don't own it because I've never been drawn to it... I have sort of fallen out of love with the contemporary Chanel line at this point... The Chanel scents that I gravitate to are the vintage versions Allure, Egoiste, Pour Monsieur and and Pour Monsieur Concentree.

    For the money Chanel is charging for their scents now-a-days, there are a number of scents equally as good that cost less.
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    I think there is a difference between hate and just not working, Bleu should be just up my alley. It is something I've worn in the past and enjoyed,,,,,ala Cool Water, GIT, etc. I purchased a bottle but overall it made me a little allergic, didn't progress on me like others explained on here and was just something I ended up returning, Weird but it reminded me of Guerlain Vetver...something that looks attractive and should be a staple but I couldn't get myself to feel good with.
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    Default Re: Why do so many men not like Chanel's Blue de Chanel?

    I suppose it's just a matter of what you like. I, for example, like to wear colognes with oakmoss, such as Polo or Safari or YSL pour homme, and if I'm in a mood for something sweet then it's kokorico or Cartier Must pour homme. Everytime I re-visit Blue de Chanel it's just, "meh." It bores me, but that's just me.
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    Default Re: Why do so many men not like Chanel's Blue de Chanel?

    Bleu De Chanel will always be part of my rotation. So well made, and does'nt smell sythetic to me ( not sure what synthetic smells like). Have yet to see this house turn out a disappointing fragrance.
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    Default Re: Why do so many men not like Chanel's Blue de Chanel?

    I was just reading through the Fragrantica reviews of BdC because the last time I tried it was at least around 18 months ago and I wanted to compare it to Lomani's Body and Soul, which to me is definitely a similar idea/composition. Anyway, one thing that struck me is how few of the reviews described how BdC actually smells, other than to say things like "nice citrus and pepper." Instead, it seemed like there were a lot more comments about how versatile it is and/or what a great office scent it would be for most guys. And I agree, but what does it have to offer me? My favorite scents include strong notes of leather, tobacco, certain spices (not pepper), herbs, sandalwood/incense, and certain kinds of resins, as well as complex ones that seem more consistent in composition than BdC does. Even this Lomani scent, which is pleasant and I think I like better than BdC, has the same problem, which Is that I can't imagine reaching for it, other than times when I know I won't be paying much attention to the scent for most of the day (and so I don't want to use up something that is more valuable). So there's a major issue, which is that BdC is expensive (to most people, I'd guess), and if it's not coming across as "special," why not buy something that really "hits the spot" on a particular note or quality, along with a $9 bottle of Body and Soul, for when you want to "smell nice" but won't be able to spend much time appreciating it? And I didn't even need to buy the Lomani, because I already have plenty of "that smells nice" type scents that I can wear for those occasions.
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    Default Re: Why do so many men not like Chanel's Blue de Chanel?

    You know when you walk into Macy's and head toward the fragrance section and as you get close you pick up that I'm getting close because I can smell the blend of sprays in the air? That is what BdC smells like to me. Kinda nice but too many better things out there for the money.

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    Amazing how Chanel can make something as great as Sycomore and then make something that could easily be the the paragon of banality. Maybe the change to Olivier Polge will also include a new creative director, because other than Sycomore they haven't made anything worth a crap since Egoiste. One thing's for sure, if Coco Chanel was alive things would be a hell of a lot different.

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    Default Re: Why do so many men not like Chanel's Blue de Chanel?

    It's a well blended combination of notes that's a workhorse. I like the smell of it, my wife likes the smell of it, and pretty much everyone I've ever come into contact when I've been wearing it likes the smell of it. This is a fragrance that's made to actually be worn on a daily basis. It's not meant to set on a shelf and look pretty. Bleu de Chanel is bearing the torch now and has taken it from others who have held it such as AdG and Cool Water. Honestly, I can't tell you why I find it so pleasing and exceptional, but the fact is that I just do and that's good enough for most people. To complain and bash it is pointless. If you don't like it then don't f*****g buy it or wear it. People can complain about it all they want, but it's here to stay guys. Might as well save your complaints for the EdP coming out because I'm sure that's going to piss off everyone all over again with people bitching that it's not complex enough. Meanwhile others will enjoy it for what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentrich View Post
    It's a well blended combination of notes that's a workhorse. I like the smell of it, my wife likes the smell of it, and pretty much everyone I've ever come into contact when I've been wearing it likes the smell of it. This is a fragrance that's made to actually be worn on a daily basis. It's not meant to set on a shelf and look pretty. Bleu de Chanel is bearing the torch now and has taken it from others who have held it such as AdG and Cool Water. Honestly, I can't tell you why I find it so pleasing and exceptional, but the fact is that I just do and that's good enough for most people.
    Without having a sample now, I can only go from memory but I did try it a few times spaced out over months. Undeniably, Cool Water was incredibly popular for a long time, yet to me the composition contains a horrendous note clash, so the only interesting question for me (since I agree that personal preferences vary and that this is fine) is what would have happened if Chanel had put some other concoction in that bottle? Let's say Black for Men by Kenneth Cole had been abandoned but then found it's way into that BdC bottle? Would everyone who said they like it, such as yourself, have then said it's mediocre or bad? This sort of question reminds me of that time when some top fragrance company executives'/"big wigs" got together to discuss a scent they were about to release and there was a bottle of it present to be tested. They said it smelled great but the bottle actually had water in it (I think this was in a book by Chandler Burr).

    I can't wear any fragrance two days in a row without boredom or irritation in most cases, but there was a time that I didn't pay much attention to the scent during the day so I can understand that people seek different things. I would spray it on, say "that's nice," and then I'm not even sure if I could smell anything in the drydown. It was a professional context so I wasn't interested in compliments, but now I have to feel that I really want to wear a scent or else I have no interest in them (other than when I sample something new, of course). So I can understand how some people appreciate BdC but I wonder how much of a role the Chanel name is playing here, among at least some of those who really like it.
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    Default Re: Why do so many men not like Chanel's Blue de Chanel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    but I wonder how much of a role the Chanel name is playing here, among at least some of those who really like it.
    None. And not for my wife had no idea what it was when she complimented me like crazy the first time I wore it after buying a bottle. Also, the other times I have been complimented while wearing it people asked what it was -- the compliments were before finding out... not after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dougczar View Post
    None. And not for my wife had no idea what it was when she complimented me like crazy the first time I wore it after buying a bottle. Also, the other times I have been complimented while wearing it people asked what it was -- the compliments were before finding out... not after.
    Well if this is true then it begs the question, "what is it about a scent that has great mass appeal?" What could they have put in BdC to make it so special in this context? I have never read any claim that it contains anything special, in terms of something like an expensive ingredient that has hardly ever been used before. So, that might lead one to conclude that the composition is somehow extraordinary, yet no "expert" seems to think this, and even many "amateurs" argue that it is "generic." Could it be that throwing in a bit of this and a bit of that, then "amping it up" with iso e super.(assuming this was done - again, I don't remember for sure), is the recipe for success? From what I do remember, it came across as having too much of at least one aroma chemical I found unpleasant and not having any note or accord (in large enough amounts) that I did find pleasant, so I'm really curious about why this one is so popular. I can understand why AdG has been very popular, and to a lesser degree Allure Homme, and with Cool Water it may have been the large amount of dihydromyrcenol used for the first time in a scent that for some reason began to catch on with the public, but I have to say that the appeal of BdC, relative to all the other choices people now have, is puzzling, and has led me to think that the Chanel name might be a factor for at least more than a small number of people
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    Default Re: Why do so many men not like Chanel's Blue de Chanel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    Without having a sample now, I can only go from memory but I did try it a few times spaced out over months. Undeniably, Cool Water was incredibly popular for a long time, yet to me the composition contains a horrendous note clash, so the only interesting question for me (since I agree that personal preferences vary and that this is fine) is what would have happened if Chanel had put some other concoction in that bottle? Let's say Black for Men by Kenneth Cole had been abandoned but then found it's way into that BdC bottle? Would everyone who said they like it, such as yourself, have then said it's mediocre or bad? This sort of question reminds me of that time when some top fragrance company executives'/"big wigs" got together to discuss a scent they were about to release and there was a bottle of it present to be tested. They said it smelled great but the bottle actually had water in it (I think this was in a book by Chandler Burr).

    I can't wear any fragrance two days in a row without boredom or irritation in most cases, but there was a time that I didn't pay much attention to the scent during the day so I can understand that people seek different things. I would spray it on, say "that's nice," and then I'm not even sure if I could smell anything in the drydown. It was a professional context so I wasn't interested in compliments, but now I have to feel that I really want to wear a scent or else I have no interest in them (other than when I sample something new, of course). So I can understand how some people appreciate BdC but I wonder how much of a role the Chanel name is playing here, among at least some of those who really like it.
    Of course the name recognition exists. The same thing can be said about every fragrance on the market. If you blind folded me and asked me how much I would pay for a fragrance like this I would say around what it costs which is about $60. Then again GIT is one of the most popular fragrances on here and smells like Cool Water yet people continue to buy that and it's still extremely popular and it's not as complex as BdC in my opinion. For myself I know what kind of fragrances I like and wear. If you don't like or wear fresh, citrus, or the more well liked fragrances, then you have to know going in that you're not going to fully appreciate it. Fact is that I've yet to smell anything that replicates BdC. The closest thing I've smelled yet is Dior Homme Eau which is basically Dior Homme combined with a watered down BdC. As far as the cheap clones I'm really not interested considering this isn't expensive to start with. With the new EdP coming out at least they're trying to improve on the formula. This might be just what your looking for.
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    Its a nice fragrance. I can see people disliking it because it has a crushed smarties candy vibe to it. Masaki Matsushima M*C is a similar scent but a bit lighter and fresher. I like both.

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    Ladies and guys seem to love it i liked it alot when i first got it as it is a compliment getter. I do find myself not reaching for it hardly at all unless im on the prowl for women


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    Quote Originally Posted by silentrich View Post
    Of course the name recognition exists. The same thing can be said about every fragrance on the market...
    I totally disagree with this and I'm really surprised that you would say such a thing. However, if you want to think that Chanel's name recognition is even somewhat similar to Yacht Man, Parlux, Gres, Lapidus, Lomani, etc. I can't stop you!

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    A lot of talk about how the ladies love this cologne but when I used this cologne myself in high school, my teacher(and maybe she was exaggerating) began to repeatedly yell "WHO SPRAYED THAT?! It's choking me!" to which I sunk my head down in embarrassment. No one else seemed to have a problem with it though, but that put me off from this cologne more than I already was, as I also found it somewhat generic and overly sweet.

    But when I think I about it, I might have overdid it, I splashed about 1/3 of a 1mL vial which I'd think is about 3-4 sprays. Meh..

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    Default Re: Why do so many men not like Chanel's Blue de Chanel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    I totally disagree with this and I'm really surprised that you would say such a thing. However, if you want to think that Chanel's name recognition is even somewhat similar to Yacht Man, Parlux, Gres, Lapidus, Lomani, etc. I can't stop you!
    So I guess those members that say Bleu De Chanel doesn't live up to the Chanel name are basing that on what exactly? I've never said or heard it compared to anything made by any of these houses except by you in this thread http://www.basenotes.net/threads/384...Bleu-de-Chanel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentrich View Post
    So I guess those members that say Bleu De Chanel doesn't live up to the Chanel name are basing that on what exactly? I've never said or heard it compared to anything made by any of these houses except by you in this thread http://www.basenotes.net/threads/384...Bleu-de-Chanel.
    Now I am not sure what your point is, so let's begin with this question: do you think that some percentage of the praise is due to the Chanel name, as opposed to if it was made by Lomani, Gres, Yacht Man, or Parlux? Whether that percentage is 2% or 80% is unclear. Moreover, Chanel has sales people providing what I consider to be a kind of propaganda about it, unlike most fragrance companies (as you said, there are a huge number of companies making these kinds of concoctions in these kinds of bottles, and only a small number of them have sales people in major "high end" retail outlets). There is no doubt in my mind that somewhere between 2 and 80% of the praise on the major fragrance sites comes from the Chanel name. If you think otherwise, then we can simply agree to disagree. This is not related to your enjoyment of the scent or how many compliments you have received. I dislike pepper and grapefruit, and there's nothing else in BdC to make up for that, even if it smelled entirely natural to me. I'll be publishing a post on my blog on this subject within the next few days, in case you want a more detailed account of my opinion at this point.

    NOTE: To be clear, what I mean is that if the people heaping praise on BdP had been given a blind sampling of a bunch of similar scents, I think at least 2% but probably a lot more would either praise a different scent, praise none, or praise more than one (the other scents would be less expensive ones, such as Body and Soul). In some cases it might be necessary to adjust the amount used because some scents may be similar but weaker. If the claim is that BdC is great because it is similar but stronger than others, that's not something I remember reading anywhere up to this point, suh as, "it reminds me of Black by Kenneth Cole but BdC is so much stronger that I'd rather buy it, though otherwise it wouldn't matter that much which one I bought."
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