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    Default Chocolate based Fragrance: I need help!

    Hello basenoters!

    This is my first time here in the DIY forum. Reading the topics here has made me want to do a fragrance for myself (Yes, I've read the Primer).

    I'll try to make a fragrance with the following essential oils: Chocolate, Sandalwood, Vanilla and Musk.

    I've never made any fragrances before. How long would a fragrance like this last on me?
    Any tips for a starter?
    Last edited by Rod; 20th August 2012 at 09:24 PM.

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    Default Re: Chocolate based Fragrance: I need help!

    I'm pretty sure it's a base note. I've never tried to make a chocolate based fragrance myself though. I feel like it would be a tricky note to work with. I know it blends well with patchouli! (that combination is a major part of Angel if you like Angel at all)
    Currently wearing: Rush by Gucci

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    Default Re: Chocolate based Fragrance: I need help!

    Thanks Lauren, I'll try to mix it with patchouli too.
    Also, how can I make a chocolate scent last longer with a powerful chocolate base? (Sort of like Angel Men)

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    Default Re: Chocolate based Fragrance: I need help!

    I think it will actually last pretty long on its own if you use the ingredients you've mentioned because they're all base notes.
    Currently wearing: Rush by Gucci

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    Default Re: Chocolate based Fragrance: I need help!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rod View Post
    Hello basenoters!

    This is my first time here in the DIY forum. Reading the topics here has made me want to do a fragrance for myself (Yes, I've read the Primer).

    I'll try to make a fragrance with the following essential oils: Chocolate, Sandalwood, Vanilla and Musk.

    I've never made any fragrances before. How long would a fragrance like this last on me?
    Any tips for a starter?
    I should have picked up on this earlier - sorry - but you need to know that there isn't an essential oil of chocolate or musk and essential oil of vanilla is incredibly rare (though it does exist).

    I think what you have are in fact fragrance oils, not essential oils: that is to say they are blends of aroma chemicals made by someone else to imitate those scents. They may be more or less powerful depending on what they were intended for and may include top and middle notes as well as base notes.

    There is an absolute of cocoa available, but that is solid at room temperature and very powerful smelling.

    To advise you properly we really need to know exactly what it is you are using.
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    Default Re: Chocolate based Fragrance: I need help!

    Thank you very much, Chris! I'll go to the chemicals shop and ask what kind of oils they sell. Then I'll report back here

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    Default Re: Chocolate based Fragrance: I need help!

    You can make a tincture of chocolate, but it isn't terribly strong. Well mine isn't anyway. I can't imagine needing much of it unless you are a chocoholic.
    Currently wearing: Poivre by Caron

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    Default Re: Chocolate based Fragrance: I need help!

    Quote Originally Posted by mumsy View Post
    You can make a tincture of chocolate, but it isn't terribly strong. Well mine isn't anyway. I can't imagine needing much of it unless you are a chocoholic.
    Well, I am a little bit chocoholic
    But what I wanted to do is a fragrance with a chocolate base similar to A*Men...a super strong chocolate base (ooh that chocolate note).

    I imagine that A*Men must have a lot of other components (synthetics and naturals) to form its chocolate note besides cocoa absolute(if it has cocoa absolute).

    Does anybody know how to make a chocolate note like that?
    Chris, I read in another thread about your creation(Tuesdays). Did your chocolate note turned out to be similar to A*Mens?

    PS.: I still need to go to the chemicals shop...Im a little out of time lately

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    Default Re: Chocolate based Fragrance: I need help!

    Try to start here:
    http://www.perfumersapprentice.com/p...te_accord.html

    I am afraid a standard chemicals shop nearby will not be able to help you, unless they are specialized to fragrances.

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    Default Re: Chocolate based Fragrance: I need help!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rod View Post
    Well, I am a little bit chocoholic
    But what I wanted to do is a fragrance with a chocolate base similar to A*Men...a super strong chocolate base (ooh that chocolate note).

    I imagine that A*Men must have a lot of other components (synthetics and naturals) to form its chocolate note besides cocoa absolute(if it has cocoa absolute).

    Does anybody know how to make a chocolate note like that?
    Chris, I read in another thread about your creation(Tuesdays). Did your chocolate note turned out to be similar to A*Mens?

    PS.: I still need to go to the chemicals shop...Im a little out of time lately
    The chocolate note in Tuesdays is of bitter chocolate - you'd need to sweeten it with ethyl maltol, methyl laitone and more vanilla to get to something more like the one in A*Men.
    Battle cries and champagne just in time for sunrise..
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    Chris Bartlett
    Perfumes from the edge . . .

    Fine fragrances hand made in The Shire
    Quality perfume making ingredients
    Twitter: @PellWallPerfume
    If you are looking for a perfumery consultation Im happy to quote: if you want free advice, thats what these forums are for
    You can also join my blog for more info about perfumes and perfumery.

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    Default Re: Chocolate based Fragrance: I need help!

    I appreciate a lot Il Profvmo Chocolate Amere, a kind of baroque/decadent chocolate's rendition.
    Currently wearing: Eight & Bob by Eight & Bob

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    Christine has a delicious chocolate blend
    http://perfumersupplyhouse.com/produ...xclusive-item/

    Isobutavan (featured in Mugler perfumes like Muse paired with Filbertone--yummy hazelnut-- per se). You can try a mix of patchouli, isobutavan, vanilla and ethyl maltol - it's quite delish.

    There is also perfumery base called Chocovan.
    Last edited by perfectscent; 6th October 2016 at 09:20 PM.

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    Default Re: Chocolate based Fragrance: I need help!

    Jean Claude Ellena's Diary of a Nose suggests:

    Chocolate: isobutyl phenylacetate and vanillin (for dark chocolate, add patchouli; for cocoa powder, add iris concrete)

    If that is of any help. I haven't experimented with it much, only on blotter, so I can't tell you anything about proportions.

    Good luck! :-)

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