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    Whitefluffy, I absolutely agree with you that Annick Goutal does great job with citrus scents. I'm owner of a bottle of Eau d'Hadrien but I'm thinking of reselling it - I've got an EdT version which disappears from my skin after 30 minutes and I wish it lasted longer on me. EdP version is out of reach in Poland which is too bad because I would like to try it and see if it does better than EdT.

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    Very interesting that Annick didn't care for gardenia. Props. Obviously Goutal liked the citrus though! I read that Passion was her own personal perfume? So..looks like she liked the tuberose.

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    Oh, Lucas, it's too bad that Eau d'Hadrien doesn't last on you. It lasted good 3-4 hours on me. It must be the difference between male and female chemistry. My husband's skin burns off citruses fast too.

    Kalli, do you like tuberose? I do
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    Oh goodie, more gardenia and tuberose coming my way soon! Just kidding. I like RHM's suggestion of layering these. That's something I've never done & will try some experimenting.

    Good reviews Whitefluffy! Sounds like there's something for everybody in this pass. I'm looking forward to trying out the citrus scents. Eau d'Hadrien seems to be a popular choice!

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    Not really. Not in most cases. I think as an accent note and not as a main note maybe idk. I am saying that cause I notice Jo Malone's Vanilla and Anise has tuberose in there and I like that one..I don't smell a lot of tuberose though. Though, last time I wore V&A..I found something annoying about it..probably the tuberose! So now, idk about that one. Ugh. I'd have to wear it more to see. Fracas I could never do. I do kind of like Poison(sort of!)..I mostly like it cause I used to wear it all the time back in the day. I think also I can smell many notes with Poison...like honey, cinnamon..so it makes it better. A tuberose soliflore? Blech. Pass. Not really a fan..I have no scents with that note except for Poison...which in the end I may have gotten it mainly cause I used to wear it all the time and it's just such a classic. The tuberose, yes, I find annoying in Poison, makes it hard to wear. Last time I wore it..it was just too much, probably the tuberose. I wanted to fully like it as I used to wear it all the time. But tastes change and I really can't do tuberose. I appreciate that scent a lot..I just may not be able to wear it anymore or very often. I will try again in very cold weather...my guess it will wear much better. I noticed I dabbed on some Juicy C a couple times last winter..and I don't know why! Maybe cause it was colder..idk. I was trying to have an open mind I think and try something different. But in the end..Juicy C. scents are the worst. I still have no idea why I dabbed some on..cause ya..it was annoying to wear a bit but wanted to wear something different. At least I tried.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kalli View Post
    Not really. Not in most cases. I think as an accent note and not as a main note maybe idk. I am saying that cause I notice Jo Malone's Vanilla and Anise has tuberose in there and I like that one..I don't smell a lot of tuberose though. Though, last time I wore V&A..I found something annoying about it..probably the tuberose! Ugh. Fracas I could never do. I do kind of like Poison(sort of!)..I mostly like it cause I used to wear it all the time back in the day. I think also I can smell many notes with Poison...like honey, cinnamon..so it makes it better. A tuberose soliflore? Blech. Pass. Not really a fan..I have no scents with that note except for Poison...which in the end I may have gotten it mainly cause I used to wear it all the time and it's just such a classic. The tuberose, yes, I find annoying in Poison, makes it hard to wear. Last time I wore it..it was just too much, probably the tuberose. I wanted to fully like it as I used to wear it all the time. But tastes change and I really can't do tuberose. I appreciate that scent a lot..I just may not be able to wear it anymore or very often. I will try again in very cold weather...my guess it will wear much better. I noticed I dabbed on some Juicy C a couple times last winter..and I don't know why! Maybe cause it was colder..idk. I was trying to have an open mind I think and try something different. But in the end..Juicy C. scents are the worst. I still have no idea why I dabbed some on..cause ya..it was annoying to wear a bit but wanted to wear something different. At least I tried.
    And I made you try the Fracas!! I like your idea of trying the tuberose scents in the winter to see how they wear. Of course, it never gets cold here like it did when I lived in D.C. & used to appreciate that note. Maybe that's key. Worth a try!

    Sorry for the hijack!!!

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    I opted to try the Fracas! You didn't make me! LOL. Again, I was trying to have an open mind and make sure I really disliked tuberose. Fracas closed the deal for me. I tried several tuberose..and yep..I know I don't like it! Thanks for letting me try it though!
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    My apologies to CN for continuation of tuberose hijacking, but I wanted to add my two cents. I find tuberose cloying and annoying too, but I don't dislike it as much as I dislike gardenia. I, too, like the tuberose blended with other things to keep things interesting. I found three tuberoses from Histoires de Parfums that fit the bill. They are complex and have other things going on. Maybe, I need to do mini-pass of HdP Tuberoses, if there is interest...? Kalli, I think you might like Tubereuse - 2 Virginale.
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    I probably won't like it, lol. If I can't smell tuberose..that's when I like it! LOL. Way far back there, like gone.

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    I don't know...I still have a feeling that you might like it

    Well, I am not done wit the pass yet, sorry Genie Jeanie, it will be a little while yet...It's a monster pass and my sniffer is getting major workout. Goutal-o-rama, indeed

    Folavril - First, let me say - I LOVE the smell of tomato plants, but Folavril? EEEKKK!!! My skin no likey, no likey at all. Even jasmine is weird and ugly. Scrubber....

    Grand Amour - Now this is a perfume for ladies! Ultra feminine and grand (In comparison with other feminine Goutals). Still, a bit too proper. I do like the hyacinth and lilies, but something in there is just not me...
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    No rush Whitefluffy!! There are a lot of scents to test in this pass. Have you tried layering any of them like RHM suggested?

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    No, I haven't yet. But I worry that there won't be enough left for the rest of the testers. I might try one combination or two.

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    Also I wanted to add that RHM is generously adding extra Goutals to the pass and I am waiting for the package from her to arrive. Meanwhile, I will be adding some too and as my package arrived today I tested all three today. (Mr. WF is hogging the TV with all the football games).

    Duel - another nice citrus. Notes are: holly, musk, petit grain, leather, iris, gaiac wood. It's all about citrus, really, despite the nice line up of notes. I can't detect leather in there for the life of me. It's well done, but not for me. To my nose it smells exactly like lemon iced tea.

    Mandragore - this one is a limefest! Minty limefest! It's too bad the summer is over, it would have been great refreshing mojito inspred scent .

    Ce Soir Ou Jamais - a complex name for what is basically a rose soliflore with some amber thrown in. Old fashioned, prim, and proper - exactly in Goutal's style. I heard many refer to some rose heavy smells as possessing a smell of urea. Well, smelling is believing - I see now how rose can turn to urea on people. Will NOT be on my wish list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitefluffy View Post
    Duel - another nice citrus. Notes are: holly, musk, petit grain, leather, iris, gaiac wood. It's all about citrus, really, despite the nice line up of notes. I can't detect leather in there for the life of me. It's well done, but not for me. To my nose it smells exactly like lemon iced tea.
    So funny and so interesting. On my skin Duel smelled mainly of hay and wheat and I didn't like it at all, unfortunately, as I was expecting to love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucasai View Post
    So funny and so interesting. On my skin Duel smelled mainly of hay and wheat and I didn't like it at all, unfortunately, as I was expecting to love it.
    I wish it smelled like hay and wheat, at least it would be interesting.
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    Skin changes everything.

    Thank god we both LOVE Iris Pallida

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucasai View Post
    Skin changes everything.

    Thank god we both LOVE Iris Pallida
    Yes we are lucky (or not so lucky) that it works on both of us.

    I received a package with another Goutal goodies from RHM! Extremely, wonderfully generous of her!!! Thank you so much!!! I tested all five yesterday and today I am giving them another go:

    Rose Absolu - much more pleasant rose than the one in Ce Soir Ou Jamais. But sill, it's quite straightforward and not unlike one in Tea Rose. It's lighter than Tea Rose but unfortunately I can smell a whisper of urea on my skin. I guess Goutal roses and I don't mix very well.

    Le Chevrefeuille - another citrus, but quite romantic. Polite honeysuckle and jasmine take lemons on a walk through spring meadows where gnomes and fairies live and nothing bad ever happens.

    Neroli - Starts out exactly like neroli essential oil I use in my face lotions. But it's more delicate and flowery than the real deal. The orange blossom comes eventually to forefront, but it also delicate and pretty. I don't know if I could consider having something like this, but I can see this appealing to fans of neroli and orange blossom.

    Le Muguet - I don't have much experience with LOTV perfumes other than one Russian one I smelled long time ago. All I can say it smelles almost exactly like it, and it does smell like real flowers. Unfortunately it's a bit strong and a bit chemical. All I can think of is soap, soap, soap. Pretty, once again, but not as a perfume.

    Vanille Exquise - this one I was waiting to smell for a long, long time. For something that has "Vanille" in it's name it's quite tame. I had to hunt for vanilla in this perfume. I don't care for the woods and musk combo, but I can see Vanille Exquise appeal to many. It's truly is the sheerest vanilla fragrance I have ever came across.

    Well, I believe it was all of them. Whew! Thank you so much CN, RHM, 30 Roses, Genie Jeanie, cacio for sharing your favorites with us. I always was curious about the house of Goutal, and now I got my wish .

    The overall impression I got was well mannered, but not stiff. Light not just in style, but also in spirit. There is no darkness, no pain, no anguish in Annick's perfumes and I like that. If I had one word to describe her line, it would be "precious." Not in the sense of being extra valuable but in the sense of cute little girl with pink ribbons in her hair squishing most adorable yellow lab puppy. The men fragrances have that feel of "true gentleman" who will always do what is morally right. Annick Goutal's line is infinitely romantic but in a quiet, most endearing way. I must have something from this line, to remind myself from time to time that beauty and light and good people are not an exception, but norm.

    Most likely I will get a couple of her citrus ones, my faves being: Eau d'Hadrien, Mandragore, Le Chevrefeuille. Also, Songes from white flower category. Sables for Mr. WF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitefluffy View Post
    Le Chevrefeuille - another citrus, but quite romantic. Polite honeysuckle and jasmine take lemons on a walk through spring meadows where gnomes and fairies live and nothing bad ever happens.
    Love your rescription as well as the scent.

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    Thanks for the write up WF. I was really interested in trying that Vanille until I saw it had muskiness to it.

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    WF, you have such a way with words! I love the many images and ideas your writing evokes! Fairies and gnomes, girls with ribbons and puppies??? Even touching upon human nature??? I LOVE IT! Thank you for all of the wonderful reviews and observations.

    Ooooh, this Goutal-o-rama has really grown! RHM, thank you for sharing so many treasures for the good of Goutal explorations!

    And no worries about white flower or tuberose discussions being off topic-- it sounds perfectly related and interesting to me! These discussions often have so much substance as well as fun, you will never hear me complain.

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    You are all very, very welcome. I have learned a new appreciation for Annick Goutal fragrances. There are some I like, some I love, some that I love layered with other scents and some I dislike altogether.

    This exploration of Annick Goutal fragrances has allowed me a wonderful overview of the line. I am delighted to pay it forward.
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    Thank you, Kalli, CN, and Lucas for your kind words. Goutals were absolute blast! I just shipped the package to Genie Jeanie. Sorry, it took me a while to pack everything up. Once again, many thanks for this pass, it was a great adventure!!!
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    Thank you, Whitefluffy! The Goutals are here with me & I'll start the testing tonight. What a huge lot of samples!! I hardly know where to begin, so I'll just grab one of the packages & dab away. Impressions to follow...

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    Sorry for the hold-up here. As they say, life got in the way for a few days. But things are back on track & the sampling has begun! I had to create a Word doc to keep all of this straight, as we've grown to 23 scents to test!! So, not to waste any more time... Let's roll!!

    EAU D'HADRIEN - This one opens with a strong, juicy burst of fresh-cut lemons. There is also a hint of grapefruit, but the lemon definitely takes center stage. Very bright & uplifting. As the scent transitions I detect ylang, which softens it considerably. (I love ylang! Yum!) The drydown is just gorgeous. The citruses & ylang meld into the most wonderful, soothing scent. Though it lasts a good 4 hours on my skin, I just wish the sillage was stronger. The body cream may give it the boost it needs. A definite thumbs on Eau D'Hadrien!!

    LES NUITS D'HADRIEN - Les Nuit opens with a fresh lemon scent, but is more subdued than the zing of Eau D'Hadrien. It develops quickly as it transitions to a mix of citrus notes, with amber, wood & spice evident in the final drydown. Though very fleeting, Les Nuit is a pleasant, warm scent. 2 hour max & it's all but gone. Nice, but unremarkable.

    MANDRAGORE - Annick Goutal seems to love her strong citrus openings & Mandragore is no exception. This one is quickly joined by a strong, camphorous blast of mint. I couldn't help but think of toothpaste here. (Pepsodent anyone?) As it settled on my skin it lost it's citrus notes & turned into an unsettling mix of mint, spice & wood. While I love the smell of fresh mint, it's not a note that I enjoy on my skin. This one is not for me.

    EAU DU SUD - My notes on Eau Du Sud are short & sweet. "Basil! Lots of lime & basil!!" BTW, I like both of those notes quite a bit. It evolves into a pleasant, aromatic scent with dry earthy qualities. Very nice, but one that I would prefer to smell on a male counterpart.

    FOLAVRIL - From my very first sniff I knew this was going to be something different! Fruit & flowers - yes. Jasmine - most certainly. But what the heck else am I smelling? (scratches head) I had to check Goutal's website for this one. The notes listed for Folavril are: Tomato leaf, mango, jasmine, Boronia flower. Yeah, that's different alright. I had to just forget about picking out the notes & let this one progress without my constant interference. At one point I detected a familiar smell. Is anyone familiar with Nivea skin cream? (Not a bad association, just unexpected here.) It dries down to a scent that's somewhere between intriguing & odd. I'm still totally undecided about this one. Think I need to withhold judgement & try it again later. It just might grow on me!

    LE CHÈVREFEUILLE - Now here's something I like! The opening is lemony, but with the addition of floral notes. Goutal lists the notes as "Wild narcissus, lemon petitgrain, green notes, hint of jasmine", but (like Whitefluffy) I get the distinct scent of honeysuckle! We had a hedge of huge honeysuckle bushes at my childhood home & my friends & I would pluck the flowers at their base to suck out the sweet nectar. Heavenly! I also detect a note of tea, which rounds out the scent & creates a beautiful composition. Quite a refreshing scent for the warmer weather!

    Well, it's time for a stretch break!! Sniffing will continue tomorrow so I can keep the ball rolling.

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    Update:

    After a longer wear the Folavril & Eau d'Hadrien are the only scents still standing, but ever so slightly. I've decided that Folavril also deserves cudos, but it's frustrating that the best part of the scent fades away so quickly!

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    Great reviews Genie!

    I can't say I am a huge fan of honeysuckle, in smaller doses but not big doses probably.

    Mandragore, I've sniffed it before, anyone get a chocolate type note? I thought I smelled something chocolate-y but not listed in the notes. Probably star anise+another note. I got something velvety cocoa like.

    Anyway, good reviews!

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    Moving right along, I have a few more reviews to add.

    SABLES - Whoa! Sables certainly wears the pants in the Goutal household! This powerhouse opens with a strong, peppery amber note & takes on the notes of curry & tea. The longevity & sillage are fierce. Testosterone required with this one. A very dry, dense & masculine scent indeed!

    DUEL - Duel opens with a clean scent of citrus & tea. Lots of tea! As it evolves it takes on a smokey suede effect while the citrus notes fade out. At drydown the scent becomes rather flat, with nothing more than musty tea in evidence. A safe but boring scent.

    VANILLE EXQUISE - I had high hopes for this one, as I'm searching for a warm, rich vanilla scent. It opens as a very sheer vanilla, which is quickly joined with a lovely almond note. There is definitely benzoin here, (I recognize the note from my Mauboussin) & wood. I don't find the musk that was evident to Whitefluffy, so kalli, you still might want to give this a try! In the end Vanille Exquise is a perfectly nice, cozy little scent, but the vanilla is too overpowered by the other notes to be a real winner for me.

    More to come...
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    Genie Jeanie, thank you for the great reviews! I am so excited that the Goutal-o-rama grew so much! I think the sample number doubled??? Wow! Thank you again to all who kindly and generously contributed!

    Le Chevrefeuille *is* very beautiful, and one that is on my list to buy in the future! It really is all about honeysuckle, but I have no idea why the French name for honeysuckle literally means "goat leaf!" Maybe goats like it too! I loved your recollection of sipping the nectar from the ends of blooms-- I did that as a child too!

    I'm pleased you liked Folavril as well! The unique elements in it captured my heart, (especially the tomato leaf!) and although it is light, it does last longer than some of the others, as you noticed.

    I've tried Vanille Exquise from a sample as well, and it didn't quite make the cut for me either. I think I also smelled some of the musk that Whitefluffy sensed, but overall, it was a pale vanilla and wood. It was not impressive enough to make me run out and buy a bottle, especially since I already have Un Bois Vanille by SL, and that satisfies any desire I have for a less foody vanilla.

    Thank you for sharing your wonderful observations!!! I'm looking forward to reading more!

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    Yes, great reviews, Genie Jeanie! I am so happy to see that you liked Eau d'Hadrien and Le Chevrefeuille! These two on my must buy list. And I am super happy to join honeysuckle anonymous club. Guilty!!! It's great childhood memories and it makes me want to find honeysuckle bush like right now and attack it mercilessly

    Yes, vanilla is overpowered in Vanille Exquise which is almost oxymoron, nothing overpowers vanilla in my humble opinion, but something in Vanille Exquise did. The vanillas on my buy list right now (off topic, sorry) are Felanilla by PG and Myrrhiad by Huitieme Art. Come to think of it, they both done by the same guy - Pierre Guilleume (I probably, most likely, misspelled his name, hope he will forgive me). These two stole my heart, so if you are looking for good vanilla, Genie Jeanie, do check them out .
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    Hi kalli, CN & Whiteflully! Nice to have all of you join me while I make my way through this mountain of scents. This has to be the grand dame of all passes!

    Will need to take a break from the sampling today. I woke up with a monstrous sore throat & stuffy nose. When I couldn't smell anything from a dab of Gardenia Passion, I knew that any attempts to review today would be pointless. Covers back over my head for now. Hope to get back to business tomorrow!

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    Continuing onward....

    UN MATIN D'ORAGE - I was expecting another nice citrus scent with this one, but after a brief wave of lemon it turned into a harsh, green gardenia. Ewww, not a good smell. I've learned to be more patient with the big white flowers & my perseverance was rewarded by a gentle taming from the sweetness of jasmine. A spicy touch of ginger rounds out the scent as it softens to a much more pleasant finish. Nice. Not for me, but a must try for gardenia lovers!

    GARDENIA PASSION - Saccharine sweet opening & then it hits. Tuberose! Full-bodied tuberose in all of it's boisterous, stinking & decaying glory. Sorry but patience only runs so deep. This one got scrubbed.

    EAU DE CHARLOTTE - At this point my nose needed refuge, so I turned to a comfort scent. Eau de Charlotte is in my collection & a scent I turn to when I'm looking for something soft & easy wear. The sweet jammy black current note is joined by a touch of lily, producing a very unique & beautiful opening. Hints of chocolate & vanilla complete the scent as it mellows into a scent as cozy as a big warm hug. This one I love!!

    PASSION - Passion is a big-boned white floral that opens with the sweetness of jasmine & ylang. Tuberose is also in this big bouquet, but acts in more of a supporting role rather than being the leading lady. Oakmoss is evident in the drydown as well as a touch of patchouli, which tame the sweetness & add earthiness to the scent. After such a strong opening, Passion becomes a much smoother scent at drydown. I own & like this one. While it's not a scent I reach for often, it has a place in my wardrobe.

    Just an additional note: My first sampling of this was a dab from the sample bottle & I didn't like the way it was progressing AT ALL. After spraying from my own bottle the scent behaved much differently. The scent was the same but just seemed too loud & concentrated in the dab. Idk...maybe I'm nuts.

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    ROSE ABSOLUE - The name says it all. A very soft rose scent, like a beautifl flower kissed by the morning dew. Light and unassuming, this would an excellent scent for layering.

    CE SOIR OU JAMAIS - This scent opens with a beautiful burst of fresh rose that is quickly joined by a sharp synthetic note. It’s like a fruit of some sort. Pear maybe? Not sure, because no fruit is listed in the notes, but I’ve smelled it somewhere before. It reminds me of a pear & apple candle that I burned once. (and only once) The scent takes on an ambery note in the drydown, but the fruity note is persistent & disturbing. Don't care for this one at all!

    LE MUGUET - Do not sniff this one for a while unless you’re a true lover of aldehydes. Yikes! Once the scent settles down a bit very distinctive notes of lily of the valley & rose come shining through. I know I’ve smelled this somewhere before. Yep, it’s Coty’s Muguet de Bois that I wore when I was 16 years old! A nice, true LOTV scent, but for the price I'd stick with Coty.

    GRAND AMOUR - Grand Amour opens very sparkling & green. Rose is the predominant floral note, but I also detect honeysuckle. There's a lot going on with this scent - lots of florals that form a bouquet rather than individual notes. Amber is present in the drydown as well as a touch of suede. Very different. I'm not sure how I feel about this one. Perhaps a little too busy & too green for me.

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    More great reviews, Genie Jeanie. I see, I am not the only one who was hit with the tuberose over the head in what supposed to be a Gardenia Passion . And I also agree with you that Un Matin D'Orage would be great for gardenia lovers. I was really impressed with that one, even considering a decant!
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    Great reviews! Lol, I didn't even sniff Gardenia Passion..tuber and gard? No thanks. I've been going back and forth on Eau de Charlotte. Now, I really like it again.

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    LOL. Whitefluffy & kalli, you two crack me up! We're definitely a tough group to convince when it comes to the gardenia/tuberose scents. I'm trying to give them a chance & some work better than others.

    I really like Eau de Charlotte, but it's something I need to be in the mood for. A bit too powdery & sweet for everyday wear.

    Well, I have 6 scents left to go before packing them up for Cacio. Hope to get it done tomorrow!!

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