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    I've been collecting designer frags for the last 4 years, i'm now looking to start out on the niche frags. Can anyone recommend good houses to start with?

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    Welcome

    I started with Lutens after an introduction to Ambre Sultan. Big, sweet and spicy in style in the early days. Now getting more diverse. In the UK relatively easy to find. Also Tom Ford is worth exploring

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    Welcome!

    So much stuff to choose from. I second Ali with Lutens: probably the most famous and talked about niche house. The style tends to be opulent, oriental, saturated. Examples would also be Arabie (herbal bitter), Tubereuse criminelle (tuberose), Muscs Koublai Khan (dirty musks), Feminite de bois (woody fruity).

    If you live in London, you could also check the local perfume brand Ormonde Jayne. More classic in style. My favorites are Tiare and Tolu, but also, closer perhaps to mainstream styles, Ormonde Woman and Ormonde Man.

    If you want quirkiness and avantgarde sensibilities, you can check Etat Libre d'Orange whimsical style (faves: Rien animalic leather, Je suis un homme classical woody-incensy, Tom of Finland saffrony suede). Easier to find, CDG is also famous for its avantgarde style.

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    What are some in your current collection that you particularly enjoy?

    Some idea of your tastes, preferences might help in recommending where to look . . .

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    Most people I know of will usually mention Creed. I am personally not a huge fan of niche fragrances, but if I had to choose 1 house it would probably be Creed.

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    I've liked Histoires de Parfums, particularly 1828 and Ambre 114. What I've tried from Tauer has been really solid stuff. And Creed, which is probably the obvious choice (and not for no reason).

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    In my experience Creed seems to be the first niche house most are drawn to. In all honesty I think this is a shame. Nothing against their quality, but I know too many people who think non-mainstream fragrances begin and end with what Creed has to offer. That said I do think they have a more user-friendly vibe than many other niche houses. This makes them a little more mainstream and a little safer in my opinion, but the sheer cost probably offsets that. Still, worth considering.

    I've really clicked with Annick Goutal personally, and CDG to a lesser extent. Though I couldn't tell you whether they're 'niche,' or not - I simply know they're difficult to find and are not linked with any designer brand that I'm aware of. The former has a rather classic vibe to me and is quite French, and that suits me fine.

    I believe in the 'romance,' of perfume, and I don't like to buy decants or samples. So it should come as no surprise I find niche scents troublesome. Exploring some of Montale's and Lutens range cost me a lot of money, and though there's a few things of Montale's I really love (Lutens not so much) I always find vintage stuff to buy which takes priority over exploring any niche company further.

    Have you looked into designer exclusives and vintage fragrances? These are valid alternatives to niche. Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to steer you away, but as I said romance plays a big part for me and I can't imagine wanting to explore a certain fragrance unless I already felt captivated in some fashion by something in particular.

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    Creed - Easy to love fragrances and they have a good range.
    Acqua Di Parma - This house has a really good range and their scents are bright citrus based with quality ingredients.
    Comme des Garcons - They have a very good range from the familiar to the unusual but not to weird or far out.
    Amouage - Stepping now into the slightly exotic but they have great stand outs like Jubilation.

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    cheers yeah i've seen tom ford in Selfridges also had a brief look at creed, i'll certainly check out the Luten house i heard good things about Chergui as well. Thanks for the suggestion much appreciated!

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    Cheers , @Miket: yeah that's an interesting new perspective, certainly gives me some food for thought. I haven't considered vintage fragrances never really heard much about them! Much appreciated!

    @mr reasonable: As to my collection so far I enjoy for summer L'eau D'issey by Issey Miyake, Acqua di gio, YSL l'homme, Givenchy play intense, 212 men

    Then in winter: Givenchy very irresistible, paco rabanne 1 million, dior homme intense, Armani code
    Other than that i've got a bunch of others I use as and when, hope that helped

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    Start with the Creed house try some Aventus, MI, SMW, VIW, Jardin D'Amalfi, Santal and Vetiver. Then move on to Bonds try New Haarlem, NYC for all, Bleeker street, etc. Then move on to some Guerlain, Heeley, ByKilian, Acqua Di Parma, LeLabo.

    You can find some of the offers from the houses above here in the split board or if you don't want to 20-50ML's on youtube you can find a few Splitters that offer 5ML's and that's good way to try out a lot of different houses.
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    I'd say Parfumerie Generale and L'Artisan Parfumeur

    L'Artisan are easy to discover becuase generally their main note is in the title of the fragrance. They have a wide range of fragrances that very from classical and safe, to complicated and exotic. It's a huge range, but you can pick up your knowledge of individual notes and the like through them with ease

    Parfumerie Generale have a wide range of fragrances, most of which are really easy to enjoy (yet again - with the occasionally complicated and challenging piece of work).

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    Quote Originally Posted by hednic View Post
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    This as well as L'Artisan and Penhaliigon. Both are decent niche houses without having to break the bank

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    Apart from the exclusive lines or Dior, Armani, Chanel, Guerlain etc.

    Also, Creed, Comme des Garcons and Serge Lutens might be worth a try.

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    I'd say somewhere between Creeds (light and fresh generally), to L'Artisan (low sillage, ambient smells) to Tom Ford Private Blends (heady rich) you'll get a good sense. All three houses have a LOT to choose from and are "niche" but accessible.

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    creed
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    great advice cheers much appreciated!
    Quote Originally Posted by LoPsOrange View Post
    Start with the Creed house try some Aventus, MI, SMW, VIW, Jardin D'Amalfi, Santal and Vetiver. Then move on to Bonds try New Haarlem, NYC for all, Bleeker street, etc. Then move on to some Guerlain, Heeley, ByKilian, Acqua Di Parma, LeLabo.

    You can find some of the offers from the houses above here in the split board or if you don't want to 20-50ML's on youtube you can find a few Splitters that offer 5ML's and that's good way to try out a lot of different houses.

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    Default Re: Good niche houses for beginners?

    Serge Lutens and Comme des Garçons are quite exotic.
    By Killian is mesmerizing. Tom Ford and Le Labo have great fragrances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forfreddie View Post
    I'd say Parfumerie Generale and L'Artisan Parfumeur

    L'Artisan are easy to discover becuase generally their main note is in the title of the fragrance. They have a wide range of fragrances that very from classical and safe, to complicated and exotic. It's a huge range, but you can pick up your knowledge of individual notes and the like through them with ease

    Parfumerie Generale have a wide range of fragrances, most of which are really easy to enjoy (yet again - with the occasionally complicated and challenging piece of work).
    Agree with these two. Very diverse, and fun.

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    I'm still quite the newbie to Niche and these have been great for me.

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    KSG, are you near London? I'd say don't worry about "beginner" niche - just go smell some stuff. If you're near London I'd suggest stopping in Les Senteurs to find most of the brands people here are talking about. If you go to the Sloane Square branch, you can try Creed, MPG, ELd'O, Tauer, Villoresi, Lutens, Amouage, and lots of others. Then you can walk to Harrod's to try the Bonds, MDCI, Ormonde Jayne (though there's an OJ actually in Sloane Square), and some others. You'll then also be near Santa Maria Novella and Nicolai.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alvus View Post
    Serge Lutens and Comme des Garçons are quite exotic.
    I'd go with these two. Widely influential, reasonably priced and with a huge offering....


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    Cheers , @Miket: yeah that's an interesting new perspective, certainly gives me some food for thought. I haven't considered vintage fragrances never really heard much about them! Much appreciated!
    What you need to do is grab a 30ml bottle, or a sample of 'Nina,' by Nina Ricci. Then grab a decant of 'Caline,' by Jean Patou. Then compare.

    Nina is a modern scent for young girls. It makes one smell like candy (admittedly I actually enjoy it >.>)

    Caline is a vintage scent for young girls. It makes one smell like a pornographic wood-nymph.

    Vintage fragrances can be amazing to explore, and often just as challenging and complex as niche fragrances, and while the expense-factor can leave niche for dead it can also be much more economical as 'vintage,' in the fragrance-world can in many cases simply mean pre-2000. For me the vintage experience is superior because I'm something of a bottle fanatic, and niche houses fall down in a big way when it comes to bottles. Oh, the quality is there (Montale, not so much) and they're usually well designed (Creed, not so much) but variety is sorely lacking.

    Of course you might love the Creed/Montale bottles, or maybe this sort of thing is no concern to you. Just offering food for thought. Ideally, though, you could look into both. Since they can be explored inexpensively via decants.

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    L'Artisan Parfumeurs
    Commes des Garcons
    Serge Lutens

    Between these 3 a lot of ground gets covered imo.

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    L'Artisan Parfumeurs
    Commes des Garcons
    Serge Lutens

    Between these 3 a lot of ground gets covered imo.

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    I don't know if this is an appropriate example, but if niche houses were compared to drugs, creed would be marijuana. The gateway niche house for beginners. The perfect house to start at.

    Ps: don't do drugs, do niche instead




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