Feels like winter or at least winter approaching. It was "only" 31 degrees Celsius this morning.
Thread: SOTD: Sunday 2 September 2012
Good morning. It's raining and thundering here in Tokyo. Such a relief from the record breaking, sweltering hot summer we've had in August.
SOTD is Satori by Satori. It's an incense fragrance that reminds me of my grandmother's sandalwood fan and incense we use to burn in the house. It is a beautiful, calming fragrance, but I think it would be more interesting if worn by a non oriental person. If I wear this here, people would ask if I had been to temple! Satori told me that it's popular among people in the fashion industry in the US and Europe.
Have a great Sunday.
Arsenal Black by Gilles Cantuel
Caron Farnesiana Extrait today with a patch of vintage Farnesiana Extrait from the 1950/60s to compare with. They sure smell much alike so far. I also have a patch of very very old Pois de Senteur Extrait (I think 1930s) on my other arm. It instantly smelled very familiarly of Pois de Senteur, although now I feel it resembles more Acaciosa. If it is Pois de Senteur it is sweeter than today's, but then we do not know what these many decades mean, how notes disintegrate and how the fragrance's balance shifts towards something else. In a nutshell, all these smell very much like belonging to today's Caron fountain extrait line-up!
Have a nice Sunday all!
^ Thanks for sharing your thoughts, L. I've never actully read 'the guide', but I understand LT & TS don't think much of today's Carons. From all the the vintage samples you've kindly sent me, I must say I don't find the current extraits inferior. In fact, I think Caron are perhaps alone in having reproduced so faithfully their extraits over the decades. As you say, it is impossible to know how these vintages would have smelled fresh off the production line 50 years ago, but still, not much seems to have changed. Would you agree ?
SotD is Bois des Iles.
Enjoy your Sunday, all.
Good morning all !. SotD is Tom Ford Neroli Portofino.
Sounds like I missed a fair bit yesterday -
(((30 Roses))), thoughts are with you at such a mentally stressful time. Take care of yourself and remain optimistic - you have our respect and admiration for the way you cope under such difficult circumstances.
Commiserations to RHM over the job - their loss IMO.
Vivacious and elegant, Mrs E ?. Business as usual then
Congratulations alfarom - here's to many more
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SOTD: Amouage Opus I
Also tested Chanel Coco Noir, Dior Patchouli Imperial and bought Oud Ispahan.
Tabac Blond - I have received two decants from kind BNers plus the vintage sample I had from TPC.
TPC was the most current. It smelled exactly like today's.
Decant No. 1 smelled like today's plus a clear Knize Ten leather vibe, immediately noticeable, but disappearing again gradually in the heart.
Decant No. 2 smelled like Decant No. 1 plus loads of animalics that are detectable in the heart and very present in the base (think Lanvin classics).
The much hated reformulation of Tabac Blond happened before Fraysse and simply was the overall elimination of the animalics in
perfumery. Why Fraysse got rid of the Knize Ten vibe - I don't know. The real vintage deal is Decant No. 2, of course!
En Avion - they all smell very much alike (1980s extrait, 1930s and today's). The 1930s is too old to say. En Avion does not age well due to its notes. The 1980s has a somewhat 'opaquer' greener vibe, but is practically identical to today's. No relevant animalics detected in any vintage!
My not terribly old Narcisse Noir Extrait smells like today's. However, I was generously gifted with a decant of vintage extrait that had the civety base and it does mean a whole lot of a difference for this subtle, beguiling composition. The floral soapy blend is identical, but it is as if today's lost a 'dimension' minus the animalics. It's a tad dull and short-lived therefore.
Here you have one that I actually prefer in its current formulation The base, albeit not containing the faintly animalic touch of the vintage (I have a tiny 1980s ?? bottle, which is perfectly preserved) is smokier, more alluring today, ergo more wearable for a man, if one can say so for such a hardcore floral indulgement.
Pois de Senteur
If the vintage sample is correct (which I assume given the expert source... you know who I am talking about, G. ), it is very much like today's, but leaning slightly more towards Acaciosa by being more overtly floral vs. today's that feels more 'talced'.
The vintage sample is a stunner as it should come from the 1930s.
starts off identically, but the 1950s extrait gets so faint one me - despite re-application (double layer) - that it is impossible to say, therefore pointless on my skin. Even the current extrait has always been very low sillage on me. Maybe Sugandaraja is on to something (he claims it) that the vintage has a less sweet, pretty thing going on?? I can only guess with my nose pressed to my skin (Farnesiana is weird on me.).
Nuit de Noel
I have no idea of the current, but my 1980/90s extrait smells much alike my old extraits (I have several small bottles), but the vintage smells sweeter, richer and fuller. I assume it is mainly 'concentration' and 'maturing' due to age.
I have a half ounce of vintage extrait, which is almost nothing like today's. I admit I was underwhelmed by it as I felt it was so very close to Or et Noir, just slightly spicier. Today's is a whip lash of spiciness compared, so much more daring. Did Fraysse want to work it out so differently? Must be.
Sorry folks for the long reply! All fragrances mentioned above are extrait concentrations.
Good morning all Today is a beautiful,sunny day.Just too bad I'm having a lateshift. Will go for a walk down to the beach not too far from work before the shift,though. 30Roses: I'm working with people with dementia and I can relate to how you must feel. Please take care of yourself too. Big hug to you.
Sotd is a decant of Daim Blond. Really like this fragrance,but my nose is slightly blocked ( Think I'm about to get a cold) Have a great sunday all!
Wow, thanks for the comprehensive reply L.
TB decant no. 2 sounds amazing. I have a vial here from you simply labelled 'TB vintage extrait'. I'm guessing it is no.1.
As for En Avion - both your '30s and '80s extraits smell, as you say, very much like today's version.
Sorry for the hijack, folks ! You know how it is
You should form your own opinion, so we're working out the so far missing samples, G.!
I'm giving another skin test to Opus V. I still quite like the boozy-woody-iris opening but, after all, this is just a typical norlimbanol bomb a-la Montale/Nasomatto...Something like Aoud Iris could have made a better name for this stuff...
Giving L'Eau Neuve Figaro by Lubin a full wearing.
Hi all. Yatagan for me today, from a sample.
Congratulations to Alfarom!
(30Roses) and (RHM) thinking of you both today.
.from a sample
Congrats to alfarom!
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Thanks to Larimar and Gandhajala for sharing your thoughts on Caron. As a big fan of the house I was mystified by the impressions of LT/TS re the current versions. My own experience with the Carons goes back only as far as 2004 but IMO they remain recongnizably beautiful and complex.
((((30Roses))))) My heart goes out to you.
((((RHM)))) Jon is right, it's their loss. xxoo
Congrats to Alfarom!
SOTD is Crown Heliotrope, tender, powdery-sweet and beautiful.
Have a lovely Sunday, all!
"I felt something so intense, I could only express it in a perfume." - Jacques Guerlain
Z Zegna in anticipation of another hot, humid day.
"Nostalgia just ain't what it used to be"--Anonymous
Hi everyone! Ooooh budge up a bit. Aah, thats better. So, what have you all been up to? Is everyone OK? I haven't had time to catch up yet. The house move was, well, a house move. Enough said. This is a temporary move so we will be doing it all again!!
Most of the collection and samples were boxed up during the flitting. Over the past couple of weeks I have worn three fragrances extensively;
Santa Maria Novella Peau D'Espagne
Santa Maria Novella Pot Pourri
Serge Lutens Tubereuse Criminelle
All very bracing and hardworking, all exeptionally satisfying to wear. They have kept me going.
Oh, and a huge congrats to my dear friend Alfarom on reaching 8000 posts.
28 la Pausa this morning for my tennis. Hope it doesn't go sour with dripping sweat
Good afternoon, all
I'm in Dior Hypnotic poison. It's so creamy and delicious that I think I need to bake something. This, for example: http://totallyloveit.com/braided-cinnamon-rolls/ It's sunday, after all...
Congrats to Alfarom!!
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Bibitry, feel free to send one of those cinnamon rolls in my direction
SotE - Rochas Man.
Bibitry - If there are any buns left over that don't find their way to Jon first, could I be sent some too ? Being half Swedish, kanelbullar (cinnamon buns) were virtually a staple of my childhood diet and I have a particular soft-spot for them. Nom nom nom..
SotE is Eau des Baux.
Best to all.
CH by Carolina Herrera.
SOTE: Opus II
THANKS EVERYBODY FOR YOUR NICE WORDS BUT, MOST OF ALL, THANKS TO JON RODGERS FOR ALWAYS BEING THE FIRST ONE TO NOTICE EVERYONE'S BIRTHDAY AND MILESTONES! THANK YOU!
Good evening fragrant friends. SotM for an hour was the original Armani Mania. Pretty but very short lived. SotA has been what is becoming my current "go to" EL Amber Ylang Ylang. EdP still going strong in all its lovely vanillary amberiness.
Thank you to everyone for your good I wishes recently. They mean a great deal to me. I have changed my medication regime and things are now beginning to settle down, until next time.
Congrats to alfarom on 8k