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    Indeed. Best-sellers and popular crowd-pleasers are seldom 'great', from techical standpoints. All the stars (concept, quality, technique, originality, timing, sales & marketing, etc) probably need to align before we get another Chanel No. 5 or Shalimar phenomenon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilybelle View Post
    p.s. adding...I'm not comfortable calling something "good" or "art" just because it sells well. Sales and markets are manipulative.
    I agree totally, what I was saying is that JUST BECAUSE the masses like something, it shouldn't be looked down on. There are some folks on Basenotes who ridicule and put down every "dept. store" fragrance as garbage. That just isn't right
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    I think the point is if enough people don't like a frag (or art for that matter) then you could say it was overrated, but that would take a huge poll. The sales figures and longevity themselves surely bear out the facts. If enough people like it to make it a success, then either the sales marketing was pretty good or it isn't overrated. If the former, then it just wouldn't last long. If anything has been around for some time, and isn't particularly cheap, then it must be regularly rated pretty well and rated over the competition by somebody holding a purse or wallet.

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    Only have tried it once, not sure which version and if it was in good condition, but +1 No 5.

    Also really can't see the attraction of Tommy Girl which seems to have
    been massively popular and receives good reviews from experienced noses still.

    As for overrated online, on BN and Fragrantica, probably Dirty English. Safari too. I'd even have to add Devin, though it's not a bad scent.

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    I think Mitsouko. I've tried it and I didn't like it. Maybe the vintage one is better but I find Shalimar superior to it.
    I've also tried No.5-didn't like it . No.19 is much better imo.
    Just a curiosity: I've asked many women,ages 25-50, ( including my wife) if they like No.5 and every time I got negative answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondflame View Post
    Indeed. Best-sellers and popular crowd-pleasers are seldom 'great', from techical standpoints. All the stars (concept, quality, technique, originality, timing, sales & marketing, etc) probably need to align before we get another Chanel No. 5 or Shalimar phenomenon.
    +1 Like the planets.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Possum-Pie View Post
    I agree totally, what I was saying is that JUST BECAUSE the masses like something, it shouldn't be looked down on. There are some folks on Basenotes who ridicule and put down every "dept. store" fragrance as garbage. That just isn't right
    Not on the female board! Well, obviously for a fragrance to sell so well over so many years it must have something going for it - other than a name. Except for le Monstre No. 5, which is - IMHO - overrated. I think it is well accepted that it is overrated, but it sells because it is Chanel, le Monstre. But here again, we are talking about marketing and public perception. Not to say that there are not plenty of people who genuinely love No. 5, myself included depending on which day you ask me, but I think there are far more bottles of No. 5 sold than there are people who really love thefragrance. Personally, I'm just as happy - happier in fact - to wear my drugstore Chantilly. It has the same strange metallic note that No. 5 edt does on my skin, except that that note fades faster in Chantilly.

    Ciprian, I do not like to wear Mitsouko. Every time I try I must scrub it off. But I love it anyway. I wish I could enjoy it. I think it is beautiful and evocative of all kinds of things, but I just can't wear it. It is not meant for me. It is alien and does not become part of me. In that case, I wouldn't say it is overrated, just not for me. Again...just my opinion.

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    Any and all fragrances by

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    I have smelled and analyzed all of them and there isn't a single one I feel is worthy of retaining my interest. This, obviously, is merely my own opinion. I do not intend to present it in the guise of fact.

    As it is said in French: Les Gouts et les couleurs ne se dicutent pas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by forfreddie View Post
    Ambre Sultan and Ambre Precieux - whilst they're not the most talked about - they are two of the most overrated amber's. I don't enjoy either.
    I can completely agree.

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    Terre d'Hermes is the most overrated, I think. I just don't get what people see in this one.

    Pure Malt is up there too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MHV View Post
    F****ing A*Men Pure Malt.

    Makes me gag, and is an offense to whisky. Worn by whiners who can't wait for the next reissue, because it's SO RARE that it reeks all over the cheap frag stores.

    A pox on your head!
    THAT'S a definitive opinion!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by le mouchoir de monsieur View Post
    Any and all fragrances by

    CREED

    I have smelled and analyzed all of them and there isn't a single one I feel is worthy of retaining my interest. This, obviously, is merely my own opinion. I do not intend to present it in the guise of fact.

    As it is said in French: Les Gouts et les couleurs ne se dicutent pas.
    I agree with this except I do enjoy VIW, not enough to buy it, but I traded for it and haven't regretted it.

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    Aventus and Creed aren't overrated. At least in my eyes. I also love Pure Malt and Cool Water. But this is just me.

    They don't appeal to everyone, but the people these all appeal to, seem to love it.

    If I had to pick one fragrance that's overrated, it would be Issey Miyake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by le mouchoir de monsieur View Post
    Any and all fragrances by

    CREED

    I have smelled and analyzed all of them and there isn't a single one I feel is worthy of retaining my interest. This, obviously, is merely my own opinion. I do not intend to present it in the guise of fact.

    As it is said in French: Les Gouts et les couleurs ne se dicutent pas.
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    Tobacco Vanille - lovely opening and then a mind numbing relentless vanilla that probably comes staright off the shelf at one of the labs. A textbook case of front loading IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. reasonable View Post
    Tobacco Vanille - lovely opening and then a mind numbing relentless vanilla that probably comes staright off the shelf at one of the labs. A textbook case of front loading IMO.
    Agreed. Tobacco Vanille: The first 5 min. are wonderful...then the dry down I could get from spritzing a bottle of vanilla extract on me.
    As for Creed and especially Aventus...Even if they had longevity, and even if I even half liked Aventus...They are so over analyzed, and over talked about it makes me sick...COME ON...I followed a 3-page thread explaining the variations of the BATCH NUMBERS of AVENTUS!! GAG...
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    I followed a 3-page thread explaining the variations of the BATCH NUMBERS of AVENTUS!! GAG...[/QUOTE]


    You deserve your misery then :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by martinijo View Post
    I followed a 3-page thread explaining the variations of the BATCH NUMBERS of AVENTUS!! GAG...

    You deserve your misery then :-)[/QUOTE]

    True, you can tell I am addicted to Basenotes!!! I get email notices every time someone posts in a thread I post in, so 5-6 times a day I was getting emails about desperate people pleading for any information about batch number RT559565CVC$$#55343434
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    Quote Originally Posted by Possum-Pie View Post
    You deserve your misery then :-)
    True, you can tell I am addicted to Basenotes!!! I get email notices every time someone posts in a thread I post in, so 5-6 times a day I was getting emails about desperate people pleading for any information about batch number RT559565CVC$$#55343434[/QUOTE]

    Another tactic by Creed to make them appear more exclusive.
    Don't believe the hype.
    I think there are many of us out there getting our inboxes flooded all day long.
    We are all addicts...

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    I don't think Aventus is overrated as much as it is over hyped. It's mentioned so often these days that it becomes anticlimactic when people try it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by broxwood View Post
    I don't think Aventus is overrated as much as it is over hyped. It's mentioned so often these days that it becomes anticlimactic when people try it.

    I agree with this opinion.

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    Send me some and I'll tell you.... lol

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    Estee Lauder Pleasures. Chanel No5 is great art.

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    The initial Grossmith line - Hasu No Hana - Phul Na Na - Shem Al Nessim

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    Habanita! Even tho it has been around forever. It is bloody good!!! ♥♥♥♥♥
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    Solara Homme

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    Default Re: What are the most UNDERRATED fragrances?

    Bursch by Acqua di Biella and Coeur de Vetiver Sacré by L'Artisan both top my list.
    Current Top Favorites:
    1) Portrait of a Lady original formula (EdP Frédéric Malle)
    2) Giorgio for Men vintage/V.I.P. for Men (Giorgio Beverly Hills)
    3) Dia Man vintage edt (Amouage)
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    Anat Fritz Original Formula and Classical (Anat Fritz) - tie
    4) Lalfeorosa (O'driù) - tie

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    Les Nombres d'Or Vetyver (Mona di Orio)
    7) Captain vintage (Molyneux)
    8) Tzora (Anat Fritz)
    9) Javanese Patchouli (Zegna) - tie
    9) Monsieur de Givenchy vintage (Givenchy) - tie
    9) Coeur de Vetiver Sacré (L'Artisan) - tie
    9) X for Men (Clive Christian) - tie
    9) Patou pour Homme Privé (Jean Patou) - tie
    9) Oud Shamash (The Different Company) - tie

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    Sales thread here

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    I'm going simple..Armani Mania. Pretty linear Cedar and Cashmere musk but I love it and think its great for work or casual weekends. Clean and crisp.
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    Based strictly on what I know and like, among others: Ungaro II, Loewe para Hombre, Joint by Roccobarocco, Davidoff Relax, Boss Elements, Gucci Nobile, YSL pour Homme, Lanvin Vetiver and many more I can not remember right now, but I do have a feeling of "not getting much love" outside Basenotes.

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    Lalique White. Encre Noir gets all the attention, but White is a beautiful summer fragrance.

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    for the autumn season, my most underrated scent right now is Tilda Swinton Like this. Spectacular pumpkin gourmand. Recalls Autumn smells well.

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    ST Barth Homme. 5 stars fragance
    #TOP 5#: Polo Crest, Romeo Gigli,Jockey Club C&M, Jean Pascal Homme,Floris N 89

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    U know....Van Cleef & Arpels is underrated, cause like MIP smells fantastic, Feerie is an amazing fruity fragrance, Tsar and Pour Homme although not my cup of tea (too masculine) are perfect specimens of their genre and frankly I prefer them to the other ultra masculine classics. All of these are underrated imo.

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    Creed MI. I just don't get why this is one of their most popular frags. I mean, it's not a bad fragrance, but I just don't get it's hype. All I smell is faint melon & sharp, dry saltwater with very poor longevity. Safe summer scent, I suppose, but have a hard time understanding why it's one of their most popular offerings.

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    Many creeds (milesime bla bla) and many Bonds smell so cheap and synthetic.
    Mugler cologne.
    Bleu de Chanel.
    And many more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by le mouchoir de monsieur View Post
    Any and all fragrances by

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    I have smelled and analyzed all of them and there isn't a single one I feel is worthy of retaining my interest. This, obviously, is merely my own opinion. I do not intend to present it in the guise of fact.

    As it is said in French: Les Gouts et les couleurs ne se dicutent pas.

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    Default Name an unnecessarily OVERRATED frag you know or own!!!

    So, this is the opposite of yesterday's thread I posted: http://www.basenotes.net/threads/312...n-Your-Opinion

    This time let's look at some fragrances that haven't lived up to their names. I'm talking about frags that have been highly regarded in the frag community but have not lived up to your expectations (in your opinion).

    I sometimes wonder why AdG is sooo highly regarded.....to me it's a fragrance that basically does nothing for me.


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    DHI and Aventus.

    There I said it. /thread

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    This will be considered blasphemy.. But.. Dare I say it.. Pure Malt!! Luckily my bottle is still wrapped up.. So if the day comes where I fully decide that I don't like it I'll flip it. Have a decant of it that i sniff from time to time but can never decide if its for me or not..

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    Egoiste.

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    Aventus, Green Irish Tweed, Tuscan Leather, Knize Ten, and Black Afgano. I probably have hundreds of people now that want to kill me.

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    In order:

    1. Egoiste (do not like it whatsoever)
    2. Aventus (it's just okay)
    3. Millesime Imperial



    Current top 10 (No order):


    1. Pure Havane
    2. Menthe Fraiche
    3. Tobacco Vanille
    4. L'Air Du Desert Marocain
    5. Green Irish Tweed
    6. Fahrenheit
    7. Musc Ravageur
    8. Tonka Imperial
    9. Gucci Pour Homme II
    10. Dior Homme Intense

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    The Dreamer by Versace

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    DHI and Tobacco Vanille
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    Quote Originally Posted by misterjuiceman View Post
    Aventus, Green Irish Tweed, Tuscan Leather, Knize Ten, and Black Afgano. I probably have hundreds of people now that want to kill me.
    lol....sure!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by del View Post
    The Dreamer by Versace
    I almost added this!!!

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    All of my Avon fragrances.

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    aventus
    1. Dior Homme Original
    2. Musc Ravaguer
    3. Portrait of a Lady
    4. Noir de Noir
    5. L Instant Guerlain pour Homme Extreme
    6. New Haarlem
    7. Pure Coffee
    8. Blu Mediterraneo Sicilian Almond
    9. Rose 31
    10. Spiritueuse Double Vanille

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentrich View Post
    All of my Avon fragrances.
    Are Avon frags overrated? hmm, news to me!

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    It's a tie between Bois du Portugal and Vintage Taberome.

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    Pure Malt
    Pure Havanne
    L'Instant de Guerlain Extreme (Just Kidding)
    Millesime Imperiale
    Tonka Imperiale
    New Haarlem

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    Default Re: Name an unnecessarily OVERRATED frag you know or own!!!

    La Nuit De L'Homme by Yves Saint Laurent is too saccharine and teeters on the feminine side.
    And, to make matters worst, it is a humdrum composition, at best.

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    Bous du Portugal? Gasp!

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