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    Default volatile coffee EO

    I've been trying to incorporate some essential oil of coffee into fragrances - smells fantastic, but it disappears so quickly it's amazing. Any suggestions for suitable fixatives? Thanks!

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    I've never come across an essential oil of coffee - are you sure that's what you've got?

    I have coffee absolute and coffee CO2 extract but both are very powerful materials that last quite well - actually burnt toast is what first comes to mind with the coffee absolute - I wonder if you've actually got a fragrance oil?
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    Default Re: volatile coffee EO

    There are coffee e.o. by cold press too, both raw and toasted grains, but it is primarily used in cosmetics and food respectively (and in aromatherapy). The toasted grain oil really smells like coffee drink and the raw grain oil smells like the fruit itself, but I suppose both are not too suitable for perfumery.

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    cold pressed coffee oil is primarily fatty acids, or fixed oil, that are insoluble in ethanol.

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    Here is the link where I purchased it:

    http://www.gracefruit.com/essential-oils

    I assume that they are not telling porkies. It really does smell like a freshly brewed cup of coffee. The burnt toast is an excellent description - my workplace is upstairs from a coffee wholesaler, and when he's roasting the beans it does indeed smell like that...

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    Interesting, thanks. I've never used this supplier so don't know how good their stuff is. Speaking generally though you can't assume things are what they say they are: a great many 'natural' materials are routinely cut, adulterated or just plain faked. I found a "Hyacinth Abdolute" a while back where the MSDS showed it contained hydroxycitronellal, which is not known to occur in nature at all: it was obviously a fragrance blend made with synthetics.

    Returning to this particular case everything I checked on the website seems fine, I looked at a couple of MSDS files & they seem perfectly credible. The thing that troubles me is the price: it's very cheap for such an unusual oil.

    Setting that asside though, if you want to extend its effect, why not try a little coffee absolute?
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    You may be right, but I think it is really essential oil. In Brazil does not usually sell carrier oils in 10 ml bottles, and it is written "essential oil" in the glass.



    I do not know if there is carrier oils obtained from roasted seeds as well. The manufacturer also mentions as being essential oil:

    http://www.linax.com.br/eng/index.php?page=oils

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    Chris, where did you get coffee absolute form? I've been looking aroun for a while but to no avail - only synthetic substitutes. I'm curious

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    Hermitage Oils has coffee absolute:
    http://www.hermitageoils.com/absolut...offee-absolute

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oveis View Post
    Chris, where did you get coffee absolute form? I've been looking aroun for a while but to no avail - only synthetic substitutes. I'm curious
    Sorry, should have answered this before now, in addition to the Hermitage link Trufflehunter has already provided (thanks!) I got my CO2 extract from White Lotus Aromatics.
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    hermitage oils are selling coffee CO2 this weekend for just 1p for 1ml!

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    does anyone know if this Coffe EO from olfactik is reliable? http://www.olfactik.com/index.php?ro...product_id=377
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    I purchased 10ml of coffee eo from olfactik, it is a very viscous material and I paid under a fiver, do you think it fake? I believe olfactik to be very reputable!

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    Good find! Though coffee grounds infused in a carrier oil works for me.
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    I tincture roasted coffee beans, that works alright.

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    Default Re: volatile coffee EO

    I used Palombini (now: Buscaglione) espresso pads from Italy, and tinctured them.
    Just cut the pad open and used it's content (about 7 grams powdered) with about 30 ml of ethanol.
    Shaken every day at room temperature, i started to use it after about 2 months.
    Even so soon, it provided a very elegant, dark, roasted, chocolate spicy touch to some of my fragrance compositions.
    Now, 3 months later it's even more intense.
    The note lasts till the dry down base, where it adds to the spicy part.
    Love it. Give it a try, it's inexpensive and wonderful.

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