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    Default Davidoff Zino -- Love, and History

    Davidoff Zino has really impressed me lately. I've been wearing the vintage occasionally for a period of about a year, and it's grown on me tremendously. I liked it at first, but over time I've come to realize this composition is truly outstanding. It's very old-school and I don't necessarily feel that its vanilla is a good representation of my personality, but the composition smells absolutely incredible to me. Very bold, yet smooth and balanced. Addictive, even.

    Bigsly introduced me to this juice, and I'm forever thankful to him for that. Also, it's very appropriate, since he is obsessed with note separation and formulational cohesiveness. Zino is one of the most excellent examples I know of the whole being greater than the parts. One can definitely pick out the lemony bergamot, herbal lavender, woody rose, spiky patchouli, piney cedar, round sandalwood, mild vanilla, hazey musk and HUGE animalic civet, but the overall effect is certainly NOT a mish-mash, or "blob" as Bigs calls it. (The structure is really built around civet imo, which, along with the lavender and vanilla, ties it to the classic Jicky. That's what I mean by old-school.)

    Also, I really enjoy how different facets come out on different wearings. Its performance is top-notch too. The transitions are so smooth and longlasting that I'm even considering getting a bottle of the new juice as an "abridged" version in case I don't have the time or stamina for the full 10-hour+ journey. (Supposedly the longevity of the new formulation is considerably shorter than the vintage.) If I had to sum up that journey in one word, it might be opulent. I can definitely see how this was meant to be worn while smoking fine cigars.

    This is a thread for people to express their love and tell stories about this frag. I'm not at all surprised it's still in production, but I would especially love to hear from people who were around when Davidoff released this, their rookie fragrance, in the mid-1980s. Luca Turin does mention it as an aside in the A-Z Guide, but does not officially review it, which is a little surprising to me. (Davidoff was on fire then, obviously, releasing the completely different and forward-looking Cool Water just a couple years later, which is probably one of the top 10 men's frag sellers of all time.) What kind of impact did Zino make on the scene when it was released? What kind of guys wore it back then?
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    I don't recall Zino being a terribly huge hit when it came out. Certainly not like it's next release from Davidoff - Cool Water. I did buy a bottle back of Zino then and wore it a bit through High School. It is a truly fantastic scent.

    I actually picked up another bottle recently after hearing it would be discontinued and I am not disappointed. Very classy stuff indeed.

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    I recently tried Allure Homme again, and I was thinking that despite their claims about several facets, it's a "blob." Vintage Zino to me is one of the greats.

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    I've only been recently introduced to this frag so I don't have much history nor stories about this frag but I adore it. My first memory of this was buying 20+ plus decants on-line and out of the lot this impressed me the most. That reminds me I really have to stock up on this!

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    Default Re: Davidoff Zino -- Love, and History

    A real classic IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyBars View Post
    ......Luca Turin does mention it as an aside in the A-Z Guide, but does not officially review it, which is a little surprising to me.....
    MonkeyBars,

    It was discontinued before they wrote the book. They didn't review discontinued fragrances (Yohji Homme was an exception). He likes Zino Davidoff a lot. He’s talked about it in interviews and he reviewed back in the nineties.

    Zino Davidoff was made by two great perfumers Pierre Bourdon and Michel Almairac. There are few orientals as good. Easy to wear. Rich, complex, olfactory density and viscosity just right, and never heavy. Like many older designer fragrances it's considerably better than the majority of $200-$300 niches. All of the formulations are good. The older formulations are better: smoother, and without that faint plasticky aspect. Excellent fragrance. I'd much rather wear it than Heritage, which is also excellent, especially the vintage EDP.
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    I have the original release of Zino and treasure it. A Great!
    ointments and perfume delight the heart....

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    Quote Originally Posted by pluran View Post
    MonkeyBars,

    It was discontinued before they wrote the book. They didn't review discontinued fragrances (Yohji Homme was an exception). He likes Zino. Reviewed it in the nineties.

    Zino Davidoff
    was made by two great perfumers: Pierre Bourdon and Michel Almairac. Excellent fragrance. Few orientals as good. Like many older designer fragrances it's considerably better than the majority of $200-$300 niches. The last formulation before discontinuation is good. The older formulations are better.
    Thanks for reminding me plur. I did not know about Turin's review however! Where can I find that?

    I appreciate the heads up on the noses. Had they much of a track record yet at the time of composition?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    I recently tried Allure Homme again, and I was thinking that despite their claims about several facets, it's a "blob." Vintage Zino to me is one of the greats.
    great to see you changed your mind about this one ...
    I remember reading your original thoughts

    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/210...avidoff-s-Zino

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitrios View Post
    great to see you changed your mind about this one ...
    I remember reading your original thoughts

    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/210...avidoff-s-Zino
    That was the reformulation and I haven't changed my mind about that one, I just didn't know about the reformulation until a year or so ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyBars View Post
    Thanks for reminding me plur. I did not know about Turin's review however! Where can I find that?

    I appreciate the heads up on the noses. Had they much of a track record yet at the time of composition?
    Not sure where to find that review. Looking it up on Google isn't revealing it. So much other stuff came up once the book was published it seemed to push a lot of the other out. Turin used to write a lot of reviews long before The Guide.

    Sure, by 1985 Pierre Bourdon had already made Kouros and Green Irish Tweed. He went on to make Cool Water, Live Jazz, Bois d'Orage, Feminite du Bois, Dolce Vita, Iris Poudre, Mark Birley for Men, Cologne a la Francaise, Kouros Fraicheur, many others. Bourdon studied under Jean Carles in the early 1970's. He's also probably the only real protege of Edmond Roudnitska.

    Michel Almairac
    was just starting out. He went on to make things like Gucci Pour Homme (2003), Armani Prive Bois, d’Encens, Rochas Lui, Gucci Rush Pour Femme, Gres Cabaret, Paloma Picasso Minotaure, L'Artisan Voleur de Roses, Chopard Casmir, Bond No. 9 Fire Island, others.
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    I had at least two "moments of love" or, if I may say so, two "bouts of love" for this scent: once when I first discovered it during the late 90s, when it was almost shunned by fragrance industry and almost banned to the bottom shelves of the retail surfaces, due to bigger sales and popularity of Cool Water and Good Life from the same fragrance house, and yet another special moment around late 2006, when, after gradual years of oblivion, I rediscovered this scent and, after repeated testings/samplings found out it still smells equally great.

    However, outside of these two "fragrant turning points", my almost unending fascination for this scent never ceased and it is currently on my "resolutions list" to purchase this one.
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    I love this fragrance as well. But I cannot find any noticible difference between vintage and the last formula To be sure, I wore a vintage bottle yesterday as my SotD and didn't think it was any different than the latest one.
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    Default Re: Davidoff Zino -- Love, and History

    Quote Originally Posted by Surfacing View Post
    I love this fragrance as well. But I cannot find any noticible difference between vintage and the last formula To be sure, I wore a vintage bottle yesterday as my SotD and didn't think it was any different than the latest one.
    Same here. Minimal if any difference. Seems like everytime there's a Zino topic the reformulation theory takes over the discussion.

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    Default Re: Davidoff Zino -- Love, and History

    Thanks for the history lesson pluran! I'm not surprised this one was made by highly pedigreed perfumers. It's very carefully formulated.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Spritzed it about an hour ago and this time I'm really getting that clary sage! Clary sage can be challenging for some folks, with its vegetal-sweaty facet. I think this in combination with the civet is responsible for the "rotting vegetables" comments, not that I get that per se. Love it.
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    And the longevity is still good/equal in the "reformulated" version?

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    I love it. Great fragrance, still quite unique as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyBars View Post
    Thanks for reminding me plur. I did not know about Turin's review however! Where can I find that?

    I appreciate the heads up on the noses. Had they much of a track record yet at the time of composition?
    He calls Zino 'great'. It's mentioned in the Guerlain Heritage review in the guide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexwagner View Post
    He calls Zino 'great'. It's mentioned in the Guerlain Heritage review in the guide.
    I recall he also considers it to be among the most masculine and "square-jawed" frags as well.

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    I love it--Heritage, Zino and Bois du Portugal--all you really need!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviatt View Post
    I love it--Heritage, Zino and Bois du Portugal--all you really need!
    I recently tried BdP and found it more like PdN New York, but with the balance all out of wack. I didn't really like it at all actually. Heritage also did not make an impact on me.

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    My story is one of newbie hubris.

    I live near/(in) a South Florida beach resort area and figured, in 2006, I just knew I could find a bottle of vitage Zino in one of the beach sundry or pharmacy stores dotting the coastal towns, the little mom and pop type of store. I searched all the local ones still open at that time with no success. Had I then been a more knowledgeable Basenoter I might have noticed another gem or two available instead of Zino, but I was focused entirely on finding Zino. I even stopped, on a trip across Florida from Palm Beach to Naples, one I added well over an hour travel time to by checking, via the small cross-Florida road that tops Lake Okeechobee, at least a dozen small mom and pop pharmacy and sundry stores in places like Indiantown, FL with no better luck.

    I finally gave up my real-time search and located a couple of bottles to add to my wardrobe online and from Basenotes some time later. Well worth all the fuss, Zino is a classic in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbe View Post
    I live near/(in) a South Florida beach resort area and figured, in 2006, I just knew I could find a bottle of vitage Zino in one of the beach sundry or pharmacy stores dotting the coastal towns, the little mom and pop type of store. I searched all the local ones still open at that time with no success. Had I then been a more knowledgeable Basenoter I might have noticed another gem or two available instead of Zino, but I was focused entirely on finding Zino. I even stopped, on a trip across Florida from Palm Beach to Naples, one I added well over an hour travel time to by checking, via the small cross-Florida road that tops Lake Okeechobee, at least a dozen small mom and pop pharmacy and sundry stores in places like Indiantown, FL with no better luck.
    Thanks for your report. This one is worth all that fuss. Even to this day the vintage is not all that hard to find. I found 2 bottles here in LA earlier this year -- a 75ml and a 125ml! Those and the ounce decant I got from Bigs should last me a while.

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    Wonderful fragrance. Back in the 80/90's it used to be a more mature fragrance, something your dad would have worn, not very popular in Europe and even less in UK. By that time I remember that Relax was possibly more popular.
    However, Zino and Relax are possibly the classiest fragrances Davidoff ever produced. Nothing to do with the recent tacky Champion dumbells. O tempora, o mores!
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    One of the few...Was 'love at first sniff to far dry down' for me. Still one of my signature frags of all-times. That good it is...
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    Quote Originally Posted by voidvader View Post
    And the longevity is still good/equal in the "reformulated" version?
    I certainly feel it is.
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    Love at first sniff. My favorite.

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    So this thread has convinced me to blind buy zino, feel free to pm me to see if I want to part with it after i buy it, not for free of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpicyPepper View Post
    So this thread has convinced me to blind buy zino, feel free to pm me to see if I want to part with it after i buy it, not for free of course
    Good luck ! I love it, but just be sure to expect a "dirty" element here.
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