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    Default Le Labo Santal 33 and Rose 31 - What am i missing?

    I ordered samples of santal 33, rose31 and bergamont from Le Labo and tried the santal and rose in next couple of days. Santal 33 has good longevity on my skin but Rose 31 stayed with the skin after the initial 2 hours..

    Now let me come to the point - I am from India and very familiar with the smells of Santal, Rose, Jasmine, Vetiver as these are common out there. Though Rose 31 and Santal 33 smells good (linear) it only reminds me of the much cheaper fragrances and oils available in India. Why are these fragrances highly regarded by most of the basenotes members, Is it because Rose and Santals are not widely used in western fragrance? I could be entirely missing something here, please excuse me. i am just starting with niche fragrance.

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    Default Re: Le Labo Santal 33 and Rose 31 - What am i missing?

    Rose and Sandalwood are very popular notes in any fragrance. I think they have such a big following because they are somewhat used differently in the Le Labo's. For the most part Le Labo fragrances don't showcase what they're named after.

    But, to be honest I'm not sure why Rose 31 is so highly regarded. It is good, but it's not as good as people lead you to believe in my opinion.

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    Default Re: Le Labo Santal 33 and Rose 31 - What am i missing?

    As starshipvelcro mentioned, many of the Le Labo fragrances have names that are somewhat misleading. Rose 31 is not a rose-dominant scent at all, to my nose at least. (To my nose, it is peppery and very, very cedary.) Santal 33 has sandalwood, but to me the most prominent notes are the ambrox and leather. To be honest, I'm not a great fan of either.
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    Default Re: Le Labo Santal 33 and Rose 31 - What am i missing?

    Past experiences will no doubt color your first impressions. When you've been eating bland food for years, a taste of something remotely savory is enough to send you over the moon. While I don't think too highly of Rose 31 and Santal 33 either I suspect it might also be a case of Le Labo not fitting in with your preferred style or what you're accustomed to.

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    Default Re: Le Labo Santal 33 and Rose 31 - What am i missing?

    Thank you ! I could just say Wow and appreciate the pineapple note in Aventus . Have not been able to do so with rose 31 or santal 33. That's what made me post that question. May be i will have to wear it more and give it some time - who knows

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    I tried both of these at Barney's in NYC this summer. I loved Rose 31 and also liked Santal 33. I'd like to have both in my collection as they just reek of quality. Just have not made them a priority yet. I know I like Rose 31 the best.

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    Default Re: Le Labo Santal 33 and Rose 31 - What am i missing?

    I am not a fan of either - I think the standouts of the house are others. That said, you should remember that Le Labo is known for misnaming their perfumes. Often, they're not about what the main name implies. So Rose 31 is not primarily a rose, but a smooth spicy thing. And of course the Santal is not the true Mysore sandalwood, but the woody australian variety - so the scent is about smooth woods.

    Now, for something really striking, the house offers Patchouli (not patchouli, but smoke and tar), Oud (not oud, but a shockingly dirty musk), and Iris (this one, for a change, a beautiful iris).

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    Default Re: Le Labo Santal 33 and Rose 31 - What am i missing?

    Quote Originally Posted by cacio View Post
    I am not a fan of either.
    Same here.

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    Ditto here. I really like Bergamote, but the rest of the Le Labo range left me cool.

    They're all definitely wearable, which is refreshing in modern niche perfumery, but many of them are just a bit too flat to justify the price tag.

    Before I tried any of them, I was most looking forward to Rose - a few sniffs changed my mind quick smart.
    People are right to say that it's a misnomer, it's definitely not the rose scent I was looking for.

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    I particularly love both.

    For the reasons mentioned by StarshipVelcro.

    They've been employed very uniquely and , spectacularly too in these cases, hence are very nice.

    To be frank, I know perfumes from India and Arabia and cannot see any resemblance to them. Nor can I see how they similar to the cheaper perfumes. Those perfumes smell cheap regardless of whether real rose/sandalwood oil is used. They're composed in very bad or amateur ways.

    The way rose and sandalwood used in Indian perfumes is much different than to the way used by Le Labo. Secondly, the sandalwood is different enough too. I personally prefer mysore but the one in Santal 33 is nice too.
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    Default Re: Le Labo Santal 33 and Rose 31 - What am i missing?

    Nothing to add to what have been already said about the Le Labo's labelling "strategy". Besides that, Santal 33 is probably one of their most original releases. I like it, a lot actually but, somewhat, I rarely reach for my bottle. Rose 31 is a nice woody fragrance, no more no less IMO.


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    Not much imo, I too am not a fan of these.

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    Default Re: Le Labo Santal 33 and Rose 31 - What am i missing?

    I've tried their Rose, Santal, and Patchouli and there's some common element that I actually dislike. Don't know what it is, but to me it comes across as a kind of smoky/rubbery note.

    Newbie here, so no clue as to what the actual 'ingredients' might be to cause this. If anyone has a clue, I'd appreciate some guidance to help me avoid this in other fragrances.

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    Isn't it about the wonders of "transparency?" I know I always wonder who would actually buy such frags! LOL.

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    with Santal 33, my immediate impression is unique to any other fragrance i've ever smelled.

    that impression is - imagine swimming in a lake near a mountain. east coast. you know how soft and dense the sand is at the bottom? ever get some of it and smear it between your fingers? Santal 33 has some resinous quality in it that reminds me of this. wet and grainy. muddy yet sparkling. decayed pine needles, rotted wood, brine.

    good stuff tho
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    Default Re: Le Labo Santal 33 and Rose 31 - What am i missing?

    Hopefully your samples allow you several wearings so that you can begin to understand the nuances others have picked up. Rose 31 is beautifully balanced between clean and animalic and uses 4 different Rose essences (none of which smell like our grandmothers' Rive Gauche so I can see why some people cant detect rose), the whole while smelling appropriate for a man. So I seriously doubt the cheap fragrances you mention would make an effort to strike such a balance. I sampled Rose 31 several times before I started to appreciate what was going on.

    In any case, I'm happy to have Rose 31 all to myself.
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    Default Re: Le Labo Santal 33 and Rose 31 - What am i missing?

    Santal 33 is utterly fantastic. One of my top 10 scents. An utter beautiful woody fragrance.

    Rose 31 is one of the worst I've ever tried. It was headache inducing for me.
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    Default Re: Le Labo Santal 33 and Rose 31 - What am i missing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dandy Lion View Post
    with Santal 33, my immediate impression is unique to any other fragrance i've ever smelled.

    that impression is - imagine swimming in a lake near a mountain. east coast. you know how soft and dense the sand is at the bottom? ever get some of it and smear it between your fingers? Santal 33 has some resinous quality in it that reminds me of this. decayed pine needles, rotted wood, brine.

    good stuff tho
    Interesting. I think it's this characteristic that reminded me of the seaweeds/grasses that'd wash ashore on one of the long caribbean beaches I used to visit. A tractor would move it all out the way to eventually burn after a day or two of drying. Briney is a good descriptor.

    As others say, one of the first things I learned about this house is that the naming convention it uses is oftentimes misleading (Patch 24, Santal 33, Rose 31) and then again with others (Oud 27, Labdanum 18, Ambrette 19) not so much.
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    Default Re: Le Labo Santal 33 and Rose 31 - What am i missing?

    I can imagine living in India and being exposed to the abundance of quality, super concentrated oils that make both those Le Labo's pale in comparison. So, I don't blame you.

    Not a fan of Santal but Rose isn't bad. The thing that turns me off with Rose 31 is the fact that it's become really popular in the mainstream. I worked in an office of 12 people and 2 of the girls there wore it. As I said before, it's becoming the Acqua di Gio of the niche world. The popularity of scents don't bug me but I just couldn't wear the same scent as two other people in my office.

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