I think Hermes is my favourite house. For quality, if not for prices!
Thread: My thoughts on Dior and Chanel
I'm relatively new to the game of fragrances and have been a regular on basenotes for roughly 4 months and have mostly just posted "vs" or recommendation threads like a lot of the newer BNers do, so i decided to branch out a little bit and share my opinion a little more deeply. You can take my opinion with a grain of salt or completely disregard it if you want (trust me its alright). After spending much time trying out more and more designer fragrances, I feel that these two houses are easily my favorites.
I recently was able to purchase DHI (blind!) on the cheap. Holy Moses is that stuff good. It's one of the most unique mass marketed scents I've smelled. This and Fahrenheit were game changers. I have a lot of respect for Dior in making fragrances that are unique, but still accessible to the masses. Although I haven't tried DHS or savage, I'm sure I could appreciate them as well. Lastly, I've been reading rave reviews on their exclusive line as well, and hopefully one day I can test some out. The fact that they took such a gamble with dior homme and Fahrenheit, among others, really has made me appreciate the house as a whole.
Chanel, I believe, has made an art out of crafting high quality "safe" scents, at least for men. Bleu, Allure and its flankers AHS, EB, and even the extreme sport version all get a nice thumbs up from me. Do these fragrances blow anyone's minds? Probably not. But they are of great quality and still smell great regardless. Chanel does "safe" the right way.
I don't believe these are the be-all end-all designer houses, there are other greats I appreciate as well (YSL, Thierry mugler and even guerlain) but for some reason these two I have found a soft spot for them.
If you guys would like to comment on a certain house that you have a soft spot for, or a house you dislike go ahead and comment below!
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I forgot about PE for chanel! Lol it'a really grown on me too!
I think Hermes is my favourite house. For quality, if not for prices!
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Dior and Chanel are wonderful Houses, that is indisputable.
I think Chanel is the designer house that don't discount? For the premium prices and ordinary smell that goes copied a lot by others, I think I prefer Dior. I also like the old YSLs but unfortunately its not well appreciated by the normal people around.
Mugler is my favorite designer house Mugler Cologne, A*Men, Pure Havane and Pure Malt!
Chanel and Dior are both great houses as well!
I do own and love Chanel Allure Edition Blanche, Dior Homme and Dior Homme Intense! I tried Fahrenheit the other day and once that gasoline smell dissipates this is a quite good fragrance, the lady in Sephora even told me she wears it because she loves it so much!
Christian Dior FTMFW!!!!
I've only tried DH and DHI from the Dior house so far. I have a few more of theirs on my To Try list though.
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Dior is my favorite house by far... Chanel is overpriced for what u are getting
Dior has definitely become my favorite of the 2.
Something about Chanel...must just be too classy for me. Their mens designer line is very underwhelming to me also.
Dior on the otherhand has many that I'd be a bit sad if they weren't in my collection. Fahrenheit, Homme Intense (and Homme), and Eau Sauvage Parfum are all great. Fahrenheit Absolute is a great flanker, and there are many in their Privee line that I think deserve all the praise they get.
Dior is unquestionably the leader in innovations, despite rejecting John Claude Elena's "little bag of tea" @ the Fahrenheit meeting, if u haven't read Chandler Burr's book; the reformulations on Dior fragrances by the accountants trying to save a pretty penny & cutting into their formulae r my only gripe(See forum).
Did I fail to mention Chanel risks penalty 4 adhering to their original formula 4 #5, while Jacques Polge keeps a bottle on his desk 4 yearly comparison? I only wish more companies decidedly follow suit instead of threatening one..
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If someone can smell me at more than an arm's length away, I'm probably wearing too much of whatever I applied; if she can distinctly make out the top notes, then perhaps I left the house a bit too soon..
I tend to compliment people on their frags to make short talks rather than anything more meaningful.
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Dior and Chanel are surely great houses, i personally like Rochas too.
"Le parfum est la musique du corps"
Signature: Rochas Macassar (Nicolas Mamounas / Roger Pellegrino, 1980)
Current Top 7:
Armani Eau Pour Homme (vtg) (Roger Pellegrino, 1984)
Monsieur de Givenchy (1959)
Chanel Bleu de Chanel EDP (Jacques Polge, 2014)
CK Eternity for men (vtg) (Carlos Benaim, 1990)
YSL Rive Gauche Pour Homme (Jacques Cavallier, 2003)
Creed Green Irish Tweed (Probably Oliver Creed / Pierre Bourdon, 1985)
Great insights into the diverging emphases of these two great houses.
I completely agree that Dior gets the nod for creating the edgier scents, (Dior Homme, Eau Sauvage, Fahrenheit) many of which were breakthroughs that became classics. Dior also releases its share of clinkers - all those Fahrenheit and Addict flankers for instance. Maybe that’s the downside to Dior’s exuberance and willingness to take chances. But when Dior hits, it hits big.
Chanel excels, especially in the Polge era, at creating the apotheosis, in both style and quality, of a given men’s genre. To call many of them “masterpiece” is no exaggeration. Chanel is more restrained in releasing new fragrances. But look at their lineup: high quality from top to bottom. If Chanel is “safe,” so is 24k gold.
In practice, Chanel style wins over Dior innovation for me, but not by much. I own three of each house, that are in regular rotation.
I have a soft spot for Caron and both Toms - Ford and Bahama.
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Come to think of it, their approach to fragrance does match up with their clothing style direction, which does make absolute sense as brands. While I like fragrances from both houses, Hermes probably edges them out as my top designer house.
I really love all my Diors for the reasons already mentioned but I regret buying both Chanels (Bleu De Chanel and Platinum Egoiste). On the other side I can give Chanel thumbs up for their Les Exclusiffs line - tried Cuir De Russe, Sycomore and Coromandel and all of them are very good scents. Out of other designers YSL and Thierry Mugler are my favourites with Dior, for their unique and long lasting scents (YSL pre L'Homme era).
TOP 3 hot weather:
1. Gucci Pour Homme II
2. Creed Millesime Imperial
3. Lalique Encre Noire
TOP 3 cold weather:
1. L'Instant de Guerlain Pour Homme Extreme
2. Dior Homme
3. Eau Des Baux
It would be wrong to compare Chanel to Dior without including Chanel masculines like Antaeus and (non-Platinum) Egoïste. These are outright classics and have nothing on the likes of Allure Homme and Bleu de Chanel. Obviously "feminines" like No. 5, No. 19, Cuir de Russie and Bois des Iles have to be included as well, and considered against the likes of Miss Dior (vintage), Diorella, etc. In this light, I'd say Chanel wins pretty easily, just in terms of consistency of creating masterpieces. That's not to discount Dior, however, which is home to some of the most groundbreaking (or, at least, trend-bucking) commercial masterpieces (Fahrenheit, Dior Homme).
2 Great houses, along with YSL! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on these! I lean more toward Chanel for some reason...maybe because I tend to prefer "safer" fragrances, as you mentioned. As you stated, they do them "right"...I find so many of them high quality, versatile & classy. I think there's more to them than most give them credit for - as far as being "safe" scents. Yes, they are safe, but many have just enough complexity or an "edge" to them that still make them unique enough IMO. Sure, they're a bit pricey in comparison to some other "similar" designers, but really not that much more. Plus, when you take into consideration the quality and that I only have to use about half the amount of other similar fragrances to get the same longevity & projection, I'd say they actually come out to be a bargain in comparison.
of the 2, I like Dior more. (I REALLYYYYYY appreciate DHI & Fahrenheit)
But Hermes, Guerlain & Thierry Mugler are better designer brands to me...
Both are nice houses. Dior's fragrances are worth every penny; unique, excellent in all categories, and a step up from your typical designer fragrance.
Chanel also has a few nice fragrances, my gripe is with the price. I would rather spend $80 on DHS than AHS, it seems and smells like a more well blended fragrance. Regardless, I'm a pretty big fan of fragrances like Bleu and PE. I've yet to try EB for some reason...maybe I will tonight.
I agree with your thoughts on chanel. I haven't disliked a single one of their masculines yet, and they all seem to exude luxuriousness and class.
Both are great houses. I'm a fan of Fahrenheit and DHI/DH. I also really like Sycomore, Coromandel, Ambre Nuit and Leather Oud. I didn't know if we were including the exclusive lines from both houses.
I would have to say it's close between the two because they both have produced fine perfumes, but Chanel has been more consistent in producing, over the years, classic fragrances(male and female) that have past the test of time. However, I give Dior a #1 over Chanel in Fashion, though it's off topic.
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For me, it will definitely be Dior. I am a huge fan of the original Dior Homme. Recently I have been delving into the Privee line, picking up Leather Oud which just knocks my socks off. It's such a brilliant scent. You seem to get so much bang for your buck from this house with really quality frags.
Out of the 'designer' houses at the top of my list are Mugler, Dior and Guerlain.
Dior and YSL- that's it for me.
Yeah, as the OP said, Dior and Chanel are not the end-all houses in designers.
My favorite house has to be Yves Saint Laurent.
I also like Thierry Mugler.
It's hard to rank houses because to me, there are a ton of houses that have 1 or 2 excellent fragrances.
But when the standard is having 3 or more excellent fragrances, that number drops dramatically.
I like the French classic houses: Dior, Chanel, YSL, Guerlain, Caron, Hermes, simply because of consistent quality and a rather unchanged sense of style and taste.